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Old 06-08-2021, 11:23 AM
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After listening to Savage Geese's Q&A session, their review of the Type-S should be out this Friday. Should be fun.
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Originally Posted by mapleloaf
His testing is very thorough. It's interesting that after testing the 2021 TLX top end ELS system, he ranked it as the best system in a sedan he had heard. It is absolutely spectacular sound and one of the many reasons i consider my TLX an excellent value.
Correct!

We have heard it over and over that the sound system in Acura cars are at least $5K extra with the competitors. And Acura gives it pretty much standard in their vehicles. This is not something new.

Jan 2010: https://www.edmunds.com/car-technolo...sound-off.html

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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Correct!

We have heard it over and over that the sound system in Acura cars are at least $5K extra with the competitors. And Acura gives it pretty much standard in their vehicles. This is not something new.

Jan 2010: https://www.edmunds.com/car-technolo...sound-off.html
I wouldn't say standard. From what I understand, the 3D ELS system found in the top trims (A-Spec, Advance and forthcoming Type S) is a big leap from even what folks have in the Tech package ("normal" ELS).

Anyone have any insight on how the Base trim's audio compares to the Accord?
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Originally Posted by ELIN
I wouldn't say standard. From what I understand, the 3D ELS system found in the top trims (A-Spec, Advance and forthcoming Type S) is a big leap from even what folks have in the Tech package ("normal" ELS).

Anyone have any insight on how the Base trim's audio compares to the Accord?
apologies if it sounded that way. But what i meant is Acura offers it not just on the Top trim with a cost of $5K.
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
Correct!

We have heard it over and over that the sound system in Acura cars are at least $5K extra with the competitors. And Acura gives it pretty much standard in their vehicles. This is not something new.

Jan 2010: https://www.edmunds.com/car-technolo...sound-off.html
Having had a lot of seat time with the ELS system the past 4 years it is ok. Maybe the Gen 2 ELS is much improved but the Gen 1 TLX ELS left a fair amount to be desired. Probably better than most though. Actually thought my 07 type S system overall sounded better and don't recall who made that one. Could never dial in the TLX ELS system that well and I tried for a long time adjusting it before settling on the settings.
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Having had a lot of seat time with the ELS system the past 4 years it is ok. Maybe the Gen 2 ELS is much improved but the Gen 1 TLX ELS left a fair amount to be desired. Probably better than most though. Actually thought my 07 type S system overall sounded better and don't recall who made that one. Could never dial in the TLX ELS system that well and I tried for a long time adjusting it before settling on the settings.
Your Type S would have been ELS theyvhave been using it since 04 itbwas in my 04 TL. I think ELS sounds better in my 09 TL than the wife's 17 MDX depends on the vechicle. I will say it sounded nice in the Aspec TLX I had for a loaner, nice having the extra overhead speakers.
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Why compare it to the S4 at all? Knowing what we all know now, no one in their right mind would get a Type S over the S5 Sportback.


You see, I wouldn't choose an Audi, even if it was cheaper at $20,000, for me an Audi would rubbish it and I'd be ashamed to drive it. I've been driving Hondas/Acurs for 20 years, I've never needed a tow truck, friends in an Audi several times. In my opinion, the Acura is ageing more slowly, the interior materials in the Audi are wiping much faster, and the interior and driving experience are the most important to me. Besides, with us every simpleton buys Audi, Acure imports people with fantasy and style.
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Originally Posted by cairo333
You see, I wouldn't choose an Audi, even if it was cheaper at $20,000, for me an Audi would rubbish it and I'd be ashamed to drive it. I've been driving Hondas/Acurs for 20 years, I've never needed a tow truck, friends in an Audi several times. In my opinion, the Acura is ageing more slowly, the interior materials in the Audi are wiping much faster, and the interior and driving experience are the most important to me. Besides, with us every simpleton buys Audi, Acure imports people with fantasy and style.
LOL, right. First, a recent new TLX owner just got the infamous Christmas tree dash. So saying modern Acura's are bulletproof no longer holds. Second, watch Savage Geese's review this Friday, they already foreshadowed new Type-S' being nothing special since engine is a generic turbo with unknown reliability.
What exactly speaks fantasy about new Type-S? That it's hard to find in dealers 🤷‍♂️

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Originally Posted by cairo333
Acure imports people with fantasy and style.
??? Translation in English. What people is ACURE importing and why?

BTW you really need to be sure of exactly what you are writing before you call other people "simpletons"








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Originally Posted by cairo333
You see, I wouldn't choose an Audi, even if it was cheaper at $20,000, for me an Audi would rubbish it and I'd be ashamed to drive it. I've been driving Hondas/Acurs for 20 years, I've never needed a tow truck, friends in an Audi several times. In my opinion, the Acura is ageing more slowly, the interior materials in the Audi are wiping much faster, and the interior and driving experience are the most important to me. Besides, with us every simpleton buys Audi, Acure imports people with fantasy and style.
How can you talk bad about Audi here? This is AudiZine and people can say all kind of shit about Acura, Honda and Lexus. But you cannot say anything about Audi. do you know why? We are the minority here. This forum is for the "True Enthusiasts" of North America

You have to repeat over and over by saying Acura is not good, Audi is good hope you enjoy reading some of these amazing comments from the enthusiasts lol!

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How does a guy with 411 subscribers get invited to leguna seca to drive this

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Originally Posted by cairo333
You see, I wouldn't choose an Audi, even if it was cheaper at $20,000, for me an Audi would rubbish it and I'd be ashamed to drive it. I've been driving Hondas/Acurs for 20 years, I've never needed a tow truck, friends in an Audi several times. In my opinion, the Acura is ageing more slowly, the interior materials in the Audi are wiping much faster, and the interior and driving experience are the most important to me. Besides, with us every simpleton buys Audi, Acure imports people with fantasy and style.
I suspect you are being sarcastic here. The post did give me a good laugh.
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Originally Posted by sombasol
How does a guy with 411 subscribers get invited to leguna seca to drive this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ocn3MMvLg
I guess this is Acura's new marketing strategy. I too have noticed that a ton of no-name reviewers managed to get their hands on the TLX, MDX, and now Type S.
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Originally Posted by sombasol
How does a guy with 411 subscribers get invited to leguna seca to drive this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ocn3MMvLg
Trades a good review for free travel, 5 star room & board, with a track day thrown in? You think a low volume youtuber is going to bite the had that gives him freebies? The more different reviews the better the car looks for Acura marketing. More eyeballs on the product.
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Originally Posted by sombasol
How does a guy with 411 subscribers get invited to leguna seca to drive this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ocn3MMvLg
He's was an editor for Car and Driver. Verified on twitter. The YouTube thing is new but he's an established journalist.

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Originally Posted by mec30
He's was an editor for Car and Driver. Verified on twitter. The YouTube thing is new but he's an established journalist.
Instead of bringing an ex-employee of C&D, why not invite the real guys that will post in the magazine
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
Instead of bringing an ex-employee of C&D, why not invite the real guys that will post in the magazine
They did:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a36480011/2021-acura-tlx-type-s-drive/
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your link is fake LMAO! He was never invited and Acura was just playing a marketing game
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My bad, didn't see that link
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Always thought it was interesting with randos getting to review the cars. Same thing happened when the TLX came out last year, I think one of the first reviews was from someone with few subscribers.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing more tomorrow and we should get a chance to check it out in person in two weeks.

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Originally Posted by Camaro194
Always thought it was interesting with randos getting to review the cars. Same thing happened when the TLX came out last year, I think one of the first reviews was from someone with few subscribers.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing more tomorrow and we should get a chance to check it out in person in two weeks.

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Type S, S4, m340i or c43? Which would you pick and why? Personally im team S4 for this one.
I LOL'd when I saw the #precisioncraftedmarketing tag.
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Enjoy! I haven’t watched it yet!
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^ you beat me to it , was going to post this
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^ you beat me to it , was going to post this
haha! I have meeting at 10, but thought to share with fam here. Will watch it later today
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Honest review by SG, they loved the chassis dynamics/handling, did not like powertrain specifically the 10AT in manual mode. Everything else they thought was very good (audio, paint, interior, .....)
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I wonder why Chris Harris never talks about the paint or the stereo in the cars he reviews. Clearly he knows nothing about cars.
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After watching the Savagegeese review, I like the Type S that much more. No car is perfect but I think that for my needs and driving style, this car will pretty much satisfy me.
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Just finished watching SG review! There are so many reviewers out there (good or bad), but when it comes to quality of content, video production and technical details, NO ONE can beats these two

It was a 30 min treat on a Friday morning. I am happy that they pointed out all the pros and cons in a very professional and data driven way and not "he thinks or she thinks".

The car may not be perfect in manual mode, but Acura chose to do that. The last few minutes are just great and everyone should pay attention to 24:12-24.50 minutes! Don not forget the 99.9%



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After watching the Savagegeese review, I like the Type S that much more. No car is perfect but I think that for my needs and driving style, this car will pretty much satisfy me.
haha! call me biased but after this video I believe more in Honda and Acura and I think they did a great job for 99.9% of the buyers. I watched all the reviews, but I was just waiting for SG. Accomplished!
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After watching the Savagegeese review, I like the Type S that much more. No car is perfect but I think that for my needs and driving style, this car will pretty much satisfy me.
Agreed. Now if only the dealers could give us a better information on availability, especially those of us looking for a specific color combo.
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Agreed. Now if only the dealers could give us a better information on availability, especially those of us looking for a specific color combo.
The next few months will be tough. Less inventory but no rush, wait a bit and you won't pay markups and all that BS. At the end of the day, there will be plenty of Type S
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Interesting that they didn’t ding it for its weight, which I think is a testament to how good Honda is at making cars handle well. I expected this car to be the best handling of the bunch based on my experience with the regular TLX, so it’s good to see that still holds true.

I did notice they mentioned that the car is dead up to 3000RPMs in first gear. Looks like it’s still pulling power in low gear, which makes me wonder just how much more power tuners can expect to safely extract before they destroy the driveline. I’m inclined to say it’s probably still the SH-AWD system that’s the limiting factor, since we know they had to pull power in the RDX and TLX but not the Accord 2.0T.

Sounds like at the end of the day it’s hard to go wrong with any of these cars, but I’ll probably hold out for the IS500. The V8 is tried and true and has all the emotion missing from this J30 engine, and if I’m one of those 99.9% of drivers who daily drive these cars, I’d rather have that peach of an engine than the superb handling and SH-AWD.

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After watching the Savagegeese review, I like the Type S that much more. No car is perfect but I think that for my needs and driving style, this car will pretty much satisfy me.

same here. So glad I held off on buying the s5. I love the uniqueness of the TLX.
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Interesting that they didn’t ding it for its weight, which I think is a testament to how good Honda is at making cars handle well. I expected this car to be the best handling of the bunch based on my experience with the regular TLX, so it’s good to see that still holds true.

I did notice they mentioned that the car is dead up to 3000RPMs in first gear. Looks like it’s still pulling power in low gear, which makes me wonder just how much more power tuners can expect to safely extract before they destroy the driveline. I’m inclined to say it’s probably still the SH-AWD system that’s the limiting factor, since we know they had to pull power in the RDX and TLX but not the Accord 2.0T.

Sounds like at the end of the day it’s hard to go wrong with any of these cars, but I’ll probably hold out for the IS500. The V8 is tried and true and has all the emotion missing from this J30 engine, and if I’m one of those 99.9% of drivers who daily drive these cars, I’d rather have that peach of an engine than the superb handling and SH-AWD.
It looks like IS500 will have less combined leg room than TLX S, so if you had problem fitting child seat in TLX, you may want to check that in Lexus.
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It looks like IS500 will have less combined leg room than TLX S, so if you had problem fitting child seat in TLX, you may want to check that in Lexus.
If so, the IS500 will get a pass just because it's 5 liter V8 is packing 117hp more than the TLX-S and is RWD....granted, it seems like it'll have a similar 0-60 time.
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It looks like IS500 will have less combined leg room than TLX S, so if you had problem fitting child seat in TLX, you may want to check that in Lexus.
I had no problems with fitting a car seat in the middle seat of the IS. Like I’ve noted before in the TLX there was enough length for the middle seat, but there was not enough height. The middle seat is raised considerably and the roof is lower as well. Not a good combination. It’s practically useless except for kids and front facing car seats; my wife is 5’5 and even she has to hunch over a little when sitting in that seat.

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I went back to the dealership yesterday with a car seat in tow to see whether the Type-S is still in the running to replace my wife’s 1G (she’s unexpectedly taken over my Volvo because she says it’s much nicer to drive and can charge for free at work).

Unfortunately, looks like the Type-S will be out of the ruining. The car seat doesn’t comfortably fit behind the seats without having to scoot it up uncomfortably close to the dash, and while it fits great in the middle seat, the combination of the raised middle seat and the low roof makes loading a rear facing infant or toddler quite challenging. There’s just enough room for the side seats, but that center seat sits at least a couple inches higher. I have no idea why they thought this would be a good idea...maybe to make the rear side seats feel more like bucket seats and this sportier? Whatever the reason, quite the bummer that a 4 door sedan larger than an Accord would do so poorly when it comes to baby duty .
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I had no problems with fitting a car seat in the middle seat of the IS. Like I’ve noted before in the TLX there was enough length for the middle seat, but there was not enough height. The middle seat is raised considerably and the roof is lower as well. Not a good combination. It’s practically useless except for kids and front facing car seats; my wife is 5’5 and even she has to hunch over a little when sitting in that seat.
Do you need the middle rear seat, or could you just use the two outboard seats? When ours were in rear-facing seats, we put it behind the passenger seat, which required moving the seat up a little, but it was manageable.
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Do you need the middle rear seat, or could you just use the two outboard seats? When ours were in rear-facing seats, we put it behind the passenger seat, which required moving the seat up a little, but it was manageable.
The outboard seats requires the front passenger to sit uncomfortably (and dangerously) close to the dashboard. I actually measured with a tape measure and it’s about 2 inches closer than in the S5 SB. The TLX (both 1G and 2G) have exceptionally thick seat backs which eats into the room for the top of a rear facing car seat.


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