2021 Acura TLX vs The Competition
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Doug de Maro came up with a video that Infiniti will go bankrupt. He may be right but not totally. Infiniti is shutting down dealers and asking to combine Nissan and Infiniti under the same roof to cut cost. But at the same time, they are coming up with the new QX60, which looks good and a beefed up Pathfinder. So, I do see some hope for Infiniti to survive but it will be exactly what their COO, Gupta said: Infiniti will be Nissan Plus.
I think they will have 3-4 vehicles like Acura.
QX50
QX60
Q50 or a new sedan not sure.
Q60 will be killed by end of this year
Perhaps a crossover like their QX30
Also, Infiniti left most of the European market. They will focus on NA and China. Infiniti's gold days are gone....G35 and FX...both vehicles were amazing!
I think they will have 3-4 vehicles like Acura.
QX50
QX60
Q50 or a new sedan not sure.
Q60 will be killed by end of this year
Perhaps a crossover like their QX30
Also, Infiniti left most of the European market. They will focus on NA and China. Infiniti's gold days are gone....G35 and FX...both vehicles were amazing!
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He asked what it was - told him it was a StingRay - response "Gramps a StingRay is a fast car, what kind of fish is this?" Strange things that happen. My oldest grandson caught a 4ft Shark as his first fish about 15 years ago. All the grown-ups caught regular non interesting fish in both cases.
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Doug de Maro came up with a video that Infiniti will go bankrupt. He may be right but not totally. Infiniti is shutting down dealers and asking to combine Nissan and Infiniti under the same roof to cut cost. But at the same time, they are coming up with the new QX60, which looks good and a beefed up Pathfinder. So, I do see some hope for Infiniti to survive but it will be exactly what their COO, Gupta said: Infiniti will be Nissan Plus.
I think they will have 3-4 vehicles like Acura.
QX50
QX60
Q50 or a new sedan not sure.
Q60 will be killed by end of this year
Perhaps a crossover like their QX30
Also, Infiniti left most of the European market. They will focus on NA and China. Infiniti's gold days are gone....G35 and FX...both vehicles were amazing!
I think they will have 3-4 vehicles like Acura.
QX50
QX60
Q50 or a new sedan not sure.
Q60 will be killed by end of this year
Perhaps a crossover like their QX30
Also, Infiniti left most of the European market. They will focus on NA and China. Infiniti's gold days are gone....G35 and FX...both vehicles were amazing!
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About 40 fish over 2 hours with four fishing including him. We rigged him with a double hook setup & he pulled in 2 at once a few times. Was a great day for him & we stayed in the intracoastal waterway in a small 21ft Carolina skiff so it was very calm except for wakes that rolled the boat. He had no trouble with the boat rocking so will take him out next year in the offshore boat & see how he does.
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I still miss my 04 G35 Coupe 6MT, my first MT car that gave me joy every time I drove it until had to let it go. Sold it at 142K miles on the original clutch. Anyway, Inifiniti went downhill when they changed the G/M/FX to Q, but if they fix those things we mentioned, customers will come back to them.
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G35 was amazing. I was young and couldn't afford to buy one but every time I drove my girlfriend's dad car, it was a treat. However, one time, I got stuck in the snow really bad. He bought the first year model and the G35X wasn't available at the time. The car was a nightmare for Quebec drivers in winter.
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#1248
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They aren't ditching the CVT. They got feedback about certain vehicles and are adjusting those specifically, Pathfinder anyone. Had tons of CVT failures and it until last generation was still a real truck. This new model is putting it back into a real truck rather than a tall car.
All those hybrid utility whatever vehicles(Muranos and Rogues etc) will keep running that CVT because it gets good mileage.
All those hybrid utility whatever vehicles(Muranos and Rogues etc) will keep running that CVT because it gets good mileage.
I agree on hybrids. That is very common on many hybrids.
#1249
I still miss my 04 G35 Coupe 6MT, my first MT car that gave me joy every time I drove it until had to let it go. Sold it at 142K miles on the original clutch. Anyway, Inifiniti went downhill when they changed the G/M/FX to Q, but if they fix those things we mentioned, customers will come back to them.
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vhtran (09-27-2021)
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So I'm rather late to this discussion, but I've been hearing a Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing calling my name recently. Yeah, optioned out it is nearly $15,000 more than a TLX Type-S, but the Caddy is RWD, smaller, lighter, has gobs more power, AND has an honest-to-god manual transmission; I mean, what's not to like?
#1251
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So I'm rather late to this discussion, but I've been hearing a Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing calling my name recently. Yeah, optioned out it is nearly $15,000 more than a TLX Type-S, but the Caddy is RWD, smaller, lighter, has gobs more power, AND has an honest-to-god manual transmission; I mean, what's not to like?
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If it’s calling your name and you don’t have any compelling reasons not to, buy it. I want a manual transmission, booming V8. The options are almost gone. I’d love to buy a Mustang with that combination, but I have some reasons why it’s a tough fit right now. I have three motorcycles which go from fast to stupid fast, and my wife does not drive a manual so it rules out being able to swap cars with her when I need an SUV or I need to take hers in for service. I hope I can figure it out, but don’t see a good plan yet that does not involve getting rid of the bikes. But that’s not happening any time soon. Somehow I don’t get any sympathy from my wife!
"Uhhh," I stammered, "no; not available that way."
"Then I'm not driving it; you're driving it!"
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So I'm rather late to this discussion, but I've been hearing a Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing calling my name recently. Yeah, optioned out it is nearly $15,000 more than a TLX Type-S, but the Caddy is RWD, smaller, lighter, has gobs more power, AND has an honest-to-god manual transmission; I mean, what's not to like?
#1254
Although I agree, I personally didn't feel like it was any worse (or better) than the Acuras of the era. I think both have made improvements to their interior spaces since ... though I'm sure if any company can make their interiors rattle worse than Acura's, it's GM ...
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Although I agree, I personally didn't feel like it was any worse (or better) than the Acuras of the era. I think both have made improvements to their interior spaces since ... though I'm sure if any company can make their interiors rattle worse than Acura's, it's GM ...
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My wife has wanted a Cadillac for several years. The new CT5 in the dark purplish color with the dark brown interior was right in her sights. Then we went to the local dealer and got inside one. First thing she said was the look and feel of the interior materials are no more luxury than that 2005 Chevy trailblazer you made me drive for 10 years! I had to agree so now we are narrowed down to a Genesis G80 or Acura TLX.
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Lately, I’ve become really impressed with what Hyundai and Genesis are doing but Genesis needs to replicate the GV70 interior into the G70 to bring it up a notch (or maybe several). The gear shift lever also doesn’t look cool enough. Exterior looks really good though. Saw one yesterday on my way home from the office and it stands out so much in a sea of Bimmers and Audis. Just my two cents.
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I had a RWD 530i Sport Package (which came with summer tires); the car couldn't even make it up my driveway with a half centimeter of snow on the surface. I put some wither tires on it and the car was literally unstoppable, even with snow so deep the front bumper became a snow plow. I have no idea why so many folks insist the absolutely need to have AWD.
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I had a RWD 530i Sport Package (which came with summer tires); the car couldn't even make it up my driveway with a half centimeter of snow on the surface. I put some wither tires on it and the car was literally unstoppable, even with snow so deep the front bumper became a snow plow. I have no idea why so many folks insist the absolutely need to have AWD.
#1264
Lately, I’ve become really impressed with what Hyundai and Genesis are doing but Genesis needs to replicate the GV70 interior into the G70 to bring it up a notch (or maybe several). The gear shift lever also doesn’t look cool enough. Exterior looks really good though. Saw one yesterday on my way home from the office and it stands out so much in a sea of Bimmers and Audis. Just my two cents.
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luckily a tune should help mitigate that somewhat, cause man the 2021 TLX commands road presence like no other my eyes always gazes on the design whenever I see one going by or so
#1266
Anyone hear any updates from any of the tuners? Seems like Hondata has all but abandoned the TLX. Zero updates from P2R.
#1267
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Was a time you pretty much had to be in the Army to have a 4X4. Drove for about 28 years Jersey Shore to Wall St in MT shifted BB '67 StingRay or 280ZX. RWD with snows for mid winter. Usually an after Thanksgiving to before Easter thing. Don't know what the NJDMV regs are now but for a lot of the time studs were legal so even glazed ice was not a problem.
Once the modern all-season tires came out I quit using snow tires. As long as the snow wasn't deep enough the car would ride up on the all seasons were good enough.
My only 4WDs have been a couple of Suburbans we've owned over the years to pull a horse trailer. You need 4wd to pull five tons of horses, tack and trailer on wet grass and mud.
I just ordered my very first AWD sedan to get all the features I wanted: an M550ix.
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#1269
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New Integra with be a hatchback, nice! If this is what the TLX3.0 could be with hybrid engine, looks promising.
CNET: The new Acura Integra will be a hatchback.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...chback-teaser/
CNET: The new Acura Integra will be a hatchback.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...chback-teaser/
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Burning Brakes
I am very hopeful that the new Integra will be a hot car. I love the fact that it's going to be a 4 door with a sport back. The sneak peeks look very good. I really hope they keep it reasonably lightweight and that they give it some decent power, at least in the Type S variant. Fingers crossed.
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I am very hopeful that the new Integra will be a hot car. I love the fact that it's going to be a 4 door with a sport back. The sneak peeks look very good. I really hope they keep it reasonably lightweight and that they give it some decent power, at least in the Type S variant. Fingers crossed.
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I am very hopeful that the new Integra will be a hot car. I love the fact that it's going to be a 4 door with a sport back. The sneak peeks look very good. I really hope they keep it reasonably lightweight and that they give it some decent power, at least in the Type S variant. Fingers crossed.
The biggest thing is pricing. If they price it slightly below or right at what a CTR goes for, I think they’ll have a home run. Problem is, we all know that dealers are going to be asking absurd mark-ups for it like with the TLX-S and CTR. At least initially. Silver lining is that perhaps a TLX-S can be had for a discount, as the hype will have been averted towards the MDX-S and Integra-S by then.
Then again, they can always surprise us with a boneheaded move of putting in a 1.5T with CVT.
#1273
I think it’s going to slot between the Si and the Type-R. I’m calling it now, the more I think about it, the more I solidly feel that there’s no way in Hell Honda is giving Acura the Type-R motor. It’s going to be the same 2.0T found in the TLX and RDX. Nor will Acura want a lower model being as fast or faster than the TLX-S. Still a good amount of power for something that will likely weigh ~3.3-3.4k lbs. plus, it already has a well established aftermarket for those wanting more power.
The biggest thing is pricing. If they price it slightly below or right at what a CTR goes for, I think they’ll have a home run. Problem is, we all know that dealers are going to be asking absurd mark-ups for it like with the TLX-S and CTR. At least initially. Silver lining is that perhaps a TLX-S can be had for a discount, as the hype will have been averted towards the MDX-S and Integra-S by then.
Then again, they can always surprise us with a boneheaded move of putting in a 1.5T with CVT.
The biggest thing is pricing. If they price it slightly below or right at what a CTR goes for, I think they’ll have a home run. Problem is, we all know that dealers are going to be asking absurd mark-ups for it like with the TLX-S and CTR. At least initially. Silver lining is that perhaps a TLX-S can be had for a discount, as the hype will have been averted towards the MDX-S and Integra-S by then.
Then again, they can always surprise us with a boneheaded move of putting in a 1.5T with CVT.
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I was the same way, drove for years switching to snows in the winter, with an assortment of high performance cars RWD with MTs. Never had a problem.
Once the modern all-season tires came out I quit using snow tires. As long as the snow wasn't deep enough the car would ride up on the all seasons were good enough.
My only 4WDs have been a couple of Suburbans we've owned over the years to pull a horse trailer. You need 4wd to pull five tons of horses, tack and trailer on wet grass and mud.
I just ordered my very first AWD sedan to get all the features I wanted: an M550ix.
Once the modern all-season tires came out I quit using snow tires. As long as the snow wasn't deep enough the car would ride up on the all seasons were good enough.
My only 4WDs have been a couple of Suburbans we've owned over the years to pull a horse trailer. You need 4wd to pull five tons of horses, tack and trailer on wet grass and mud.
I just ordered my very first AWD sedan to get all the features I wanted: an M550ix.
Great demo of well rounded package vs raw power is a Throttle House M5 625BHP vs Hellcat RedEye 717BHP
Even with AWD the summer performance tires will not move an inch when there is any snow coverage. Where is your M550ix at in the BMW tracking report? That 4.4L Twin Tubro V8 makes a really great noise at WOT. Like it better than the 3.0L I6 Twin Turbos exhaust in the M4C. Can't beat a V8 for a good sound.
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And the Audi would look better if it had the G70’s window sticker. Cars are all about compromise. People nit pick the details. But at some point we all just decide which tradeoffs we are willing to make.
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First AWD car, M4C convertible, in the family is at stage 150 (build started) as of 9/24/21 in the BMW tracking report. Performance cars like the M550ix & M4C need it for traction when the throttle is down. How was the M550ix pricing, just got chump change off MSRP with the M4C. Worse deal I ever made on a car.
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Where is your M550ix at in the BMW tracking report? That 4.4L Twin Turbo V8 makes a really great noise at WOT. Like it better than the 3.0L I6 Twin Turbos exhaust in the M4C. Can't beat a V8 for a good sound.
First AWD car, M4C convertible, in the family is at stage 150 (build started) as of 9/24/21 in the BMW tracking report. Performance cars like the M550ix & M4C need it for traction when the throttle is down. How was the M550ix pricing, just got chump change off MSRP with the M4C. Worse deal I ever made on a car.
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Where is your M550ix at in the BMW tracking report? That 4.4L Twin Turbo V8 makes a really great noise at WOT. Like it better than the 3.0L I6 Twin Turbos exhaust in the M4C. Can't beat a V8 for a good sound.
It's an Individual Manufactur M vehicle, so at the moment it's in a three week backlog in München awaiting evaluation and approval of my special requests. At least I have a production number.
Once approved it will take longer than a vanilla M550ix for the actual production, I don't expect to see it this year.
#1279
I know that people want to rag on Acura "marketing" and greedy dealers for ADM on the TLX Type S, but at this point, the overall car market might be dictating some, not all but some of that ADM instead of just purely hype.
Did I hear correctly that even something like the CR-V has some sort of ADM now, due to the chip shortages?
Did I hear correctly that even something like the CR-V has some sort of ADM now, due to the chip shortages?
#1280
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I know that people want to rag on Acura "marketing" and greedy dealers for ADM on the TLX Type S, but at this point, the overall car market might be dictating some, not all but some of that ADM instead of just purely hype.
Did I hear correctly that even something like the CR-V has some sort of ADM now, due to the chip shortages?
Did I hear correctly that even something like the CR-V has some sort of ADM now, due to the chip shortages?