Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
#3922
Team Owner
#3923
Team Owner
#3925
Racer
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I read this ENTIRE thread over the past 2 days at work (yea, I know my job is silly since I can just sit and read these forums) and wow, amazing work to everyone involved.
I don't have the money to be doing this since I don't have a smog guy and taking it apart every 2 years for California's smog would be too much.
If it was an option for me though I'd definitely be all over this.
The CA emissions aspect is what's making my choice to do a ~$3k stereo not a tough decision between that and a turbo.
Great GREAT work on getting this from an idea to a working and amazing reality.
I don't have the money to be doing this since I don't have a smog guy and taking it apart every 2 years for California's smog would be too much.
If it was an option for me though I'd definitely be all over this.
The CA emissions aspect is what's making my choice to do a ~$3k stereo not a tough decision between that and a turbo.
Great GREAT work on getting this from an idea to a working and amazing reality.
#3927
Racer
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I wasn't totally sure superchargers were smog legal though, that's interesting. Even in California where they inspect everything? I guess as long as it doesn't mess with the cat's. Wouldn't there be less of a reason to do anything that big due to bottlenecking the exhaust from the cats. Like you would be wasting your time since your exhaust is still restricted. I dunno haven't looked into superchargers much.
edit: oh and I see you're from San Jose. Next year sometime I'm going to do an audio install from Simplicity in Sound in San Jose. Talked back and forth with Bing and got some ideas in my head. Now just have to save ~3k haha
Last edited by Bleak; 08-13-2010 at 01:50 PM. Reason: random comment
#3928
runnin a little boost
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You can run hi flow cats or deletes and just put your cats back on to smog. The supercharger it's self is CARB 50 state legal and less than half the price of the turbo.
If your looking for good power on somewhat of a budget the supercharger is a good way to go
If your looking for good power on somewhat of a budget the supercharger is a good way to go
#3930
Team Owner
Lets not forget all of the additional costs to make the supercharger somewhat reliable.
It's not worth it to put everything back to stock every 2 years. It's much easier to find a smog guy.
It's not worth it to put everything back to stock every 2 years. It's much easier to find a smog guy.
#3931
Racer
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And I wish I knew how to go about finding a smog guy easily hahahaha. None of my friends are smog guys. Maybe I should go try to make some new friends with smog technicians haha. Would make my modding plans so much more enjoyable.
#3933
runnin a little boost
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Ok here's my question. What are the advantages of a electronic boost controller over a mechanical one. Also do I need a higher rate wastegate spring, because I can hear it leaking under boost? The car will go into boost but from 2-10 psi there is no increase in acceleration, maybe a loss. I'm use to having the rpm's go by faster the higher rpm your at.
I have driven factory low boost turbo cars and the power spike is more dramatic. I think my timming is super retarded which is not helping.
I have driven factory low boost turbo cars and the power spike is more dramatic. I think my timming is super retarded which is not helping.
Last edited by Hi speed; 08-13-2010 at 02:42 PM.
#3934
Safety Car
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From what I read, mechanical controllers are more prone to creep.
I asked the same question about installed spr and if the electronic unit can surpass it but never got an answer. I'd be interested as well.
The interesting thing is that when I was having all kinds of problems with my hoses coming off the wastegate, I would see spikes of 10lbs on a 7lb spring.
I asked the same question about installed spr and if the electronic unit can surpass it but never got an answer. I'd be interested as well.
The interesting thing is that when I was having all kinds of problems with my hoses coming off the wastegate, I would see spikes of 10lbs on a 7lb spring.
#3937
Team Owner
Besides the ease of adjustability, electronic boost controllers will help it to spool quite a bit quicker. Instead of the wastegate beginning to open a few psi before max, it stays closed until it hits full boost.
#3940
Team Owner
The spring will dictate the minimum boost. You usually want a spring within 5-10 psi of the max boost you're going to run. If there's too large of a gap between the spring and boost level you can run into overshooting.
#3944
Team Owner
No, not at all. There's so much to learn with this turbo stuff.
If you want to see the effects, you can buy a $25 bleeder valve. Works great and helps spool. About 70% as good as a EBC.
Setting boost is so much easier. Just floor it in 3rd gear and turn the knob while it's floored. No guessing.
If you want to see the effects, you can buy a $25 bleeder valve. Works great and helps spool. About 70% as good as a EBC.
Setting boost is so much easier. Just floor it in 3rd gear and turn the knob while it's floored. No guessing.
#3945
Team Owner
I forgot to add and I'm sure you already know but anytime you mess with the vacuum lines or try a new bleeder always get into the throttle slowly. I've ruined my boost gauge by pegging it hard at 30psi from not paying attention to mods.
#3947
Burning Brakes
Just becareful a word of advice and please take this seriously if you're not famaliar with adjusting the electronic boost controller please don't try adjusting and go driving to test it as a wrong setting will and can cause overboosting which will lead to engine failure.........
Ihc we have played with retarding the timing which we've seen are different on various models ,I'd say the auto could use a 5 degree increase...
Ihc we have played with retarding the timing which we've seen are different on various models ,I'd say the auto could use a 5 degree increase...
#3948
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IHC, time for you to be-still some knowledge on an ignorant youth such as myself. In other words, I thought superchargers were way more reliable than turbos. For the TL at least.
#3950
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#3954
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#3956
runnin a little boost
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Update:
I have been running the 50/50 100 octane/ 91 octane mix for two tanks now and turned down my boost to 6 psi. The car is running much much better than ever before, the car is adjusting very well to the 95 octane. I'm going to data log tomorrow to get an idea of how the UCM is working. The intercooler works very well in knocking down IAT temps. I seen 140-150 turn into 109 with a little boost in the engine. I might be ready to finally sell the
blower, I have been holding on to just incase the turbo didn't work out.
I have been running the 50/50 100 octane/ 91 octane mix for two tanks now and turned down my boost to 6 psi. The car is running much much better than ever before, the car is adjusting very well to the 95 octane. I'm going to data log tomorrow to get an idea of how the UCM is working. The intercooler works very well in knocking down IAT temps. I seen 140-150 turn into 109 with a little boost in the engine. I might be ready to finally sell the
blower, I have been holding on to just incase the turbo didn't work out.
#3957
Team Owner
#3958
runnin a little boost
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I ran a blower on my DD for years with no issues. I think the durability of many things is dependent on how they are treated. Just because you have a 320 whp car doesn't mean you are using that amount very often.
That kind of power is hard to apply without dying or getting arrested.
#3959
Safety Car
Bert,
Any updates
1) Is the 2nd gear still hitting the limiter?
2) Have you developed a technique to work-around the limiter issue?
3) The racing atf still working good?
4) Any more people fall victim to the sleeper turbo?
5) How has daily driving been with the turbo?
6) Spraying the WMI yet?
Any updates
1) Is the 2nd gear still hitting the limiter?
2) Have you developed a technique to work-around the limiter issue?
3) The racing atf still working good?
4) Any more people fall victim to the sleeper turbo?
5) How has daily driving been with the turbo?
6) Spraying the WMI yet?
#3960
18psi
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Bert,
Any updates
1) Is the 2nd gear still hitting the limiter?
2) Have you developed a technique to work-around the limiter issue?
3) The racing atf still working good?
4) Any more people fall victim to the sleeper turbo?
5) How has daily driving been with the turbo?
6) Spraying the WMI yet?
Any updates
1) Is the 2nd gear still hitting the limiter?
2) Have you developed a technique to work-around the limiter issue?
3) The racing atf still working good?
4) Any more people fall victim to the sleeper turbo?
5) How has daily driving been with the turbo?
6) Spraying the WMI yet?
Before I left last saturday I turned the VSA off and did 2 WOT runs from 40mph in auto mode to redline and I did not hit the rev limiter. Ill have to do more runs with the vsa off to see if that solves the rev limiter problem.
Racing ATF is still good and bright pink.
I pulled up next to a brand new audi s8 last week on the highway. The guy looked over at me, hit the throttle a little bit and the roar scarred the piss out of me lol. My exit was coming up but Im sure I would of seen nothing but taillights.
Daily driving is just like a normal TL as long as your out of boost. Even driving in traffic hasnt changed at all.
I still need to get this 2nd bung welded into the intake pipe before I use the WM. Hopefully monday Ill take care of that.