Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
07-14-2009, 12:18 AM
#1522
Suzuka Master
idling will typically have the most vibration
07-14-2009, 12:55 AM
#1523
Burning Brakes
245 -40-17....vtec engagement is kept the same usually at optimal point from factory .correct me if I'm wrong..
07-14-2009, 01:01 AM
#1524
Speed limiter will be the same 155 mph that's with the manual haven't confirmed auto top speed as yet , I lost 5 mph due to tire size changes went from a 235-45-17 to a
245 -40-17....vtec engagement is kept the same usually at optimal point from factory .correct me if I'm wrong..
245 -40-17....vtec engagement is kept the same usually at optimal point from factory .correct me if I'm wrong..
07-14-2009, 01:56 AM
#1528
07-14-2009, 02:51 AM
#1531
why would you guys want to go more than 155???? are you guys drinking motor oil or something lol, and if the cops catch anyone doing ove 140, youll get your car taken away and crush, correct me please. all we pretty much need is accelleration to about 130-135
07-14-2009, 10:58 AM
#1532
Team Owner
A lower limiter wouldn't be a bad idea for those just getting used to a 400-500whp TL. Those triple digits come up faster than you can imagine. 100-135mph in my car comes up in less than 3 seconds. Before you know it in a couple seconds you've passed the ticket range and have gone straight to getting arrested on the spot and your car taken away.
07-14-2009, 02:33 PM
#1533
07-14-2009, 02:41 PM
#1534
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07-14-2009, 02:49 PM
#1535
Burning Brakes
(Look who's talking)...But on a serious note I hope when we get this turbo kit for our cars were all gonna be & act responsible , were all a family here and it would be unfortunate we get in any sort of trouble due to reckless driving or speeding of any sort . Let's enjoy our new mod instead of destroying ur liscense ....
07-14-2009, 03:27 PM
#1538
Speed limiter will be the same 155 mph that's with the manual haven't confirmed auto top speed as yet , I lost 5 mph due to tire size changes went from a 235-45-17 to a
245 -40-17....vtec engagement is kept the same usually at optimal point from factory .correct me if I'm wrong..
245 -40-17....vtec engagement is kept the same usually at optimal point from factory .correct me if I'm wrong..
07-14-2009, 03:30 PM
#1539
Ryan Christopher
Look at the Tesla Roadster, it only has a top speed of 120 (I think), but will out accelerate a Porsche and a Ferrari in the 1/4. Its not always how fast the car is, but how fast it can get there.
Given, it would be disappointing to have the power and not exceed a certain speed.
07-14-2009, 03:34 PM
#1540
Team Owner
Lots of misinformation going on the last few pages. Its all about whp and curb weight when it comes to roll/drag racing. Lets take the 04 6spd Turbo TL in this thread with his 437 whp and compare it to a 2006+ z06 corvette.
Z06 stock 1/4 mile time:11.60's-11.70's at approx 123-124mph trap speed
z06 curb wieght: approx 3250
z06 whp: approx 440-445
04 Turbo TL 6spd estimated 1/4 mile time (with traction, which we know it wont have, but if it did): 12.00-12.10's at approx 120mph trap speed, even though they have approx the same whp, the curb weight allows the z06 to be faster because the TL's 6spd curb weight is aprox 300-350lbs heavier. Using the old school drag racing formula: every 100pds or 10whp equals .1sec and 1mph in the quarter. You can use this formula to calculate nearly every vehicle quarter mile et and trapspeed until you start getting into the sub 10 second cars where generally you have to start making more power than 10whp to cut .1sec or add trapspeed.
So realistically (im guessing here since we are not sure of the reliable power the stock internals can handle) we should be able to reliably see apprx 400whp from a base TL which would mean that with traction mid 12's at approx 115mph should be the norm. That is comparable to a 2006+ M5 or 02-04 C5 Z06 or an 03-04 cobra with a tune/filter only. Not shabby by any means, but those of you tauting how we will blow corvettes and cobras off the road are sadly mistaken as these cars can be turned into beasts with just a few thousand dollars worth of work, in which we will be pushing the envelope to hang with these cars in stock trim. Dont get me wrong, it will still be fun to have a boosted TL because lets face it, no one expects these cars to be respectable when it comes to performance (atleast not the vette, cobra, bmw M crowd)
Z06 stock 1/4 mile time:11.60's-11.70's at approx 123-124mph trap speed
z06 curb wieght: approx 3250
z06 whp: approx 440-445
04 Turbo TL 6spd estimated 1/4 mile time (with traction, which we know it wont have, but if it did): 12.00-12.10's at approx 120mph trap speed, even though they have approx the same whp, the curb weight allows the z06 to be faster because the TL's 6spd curb weight is aprox 300-350lbs heavier. Using the old school drag racing formula: every 100pds or 10whp equals .1sec and 1mph in the quarter. You can use this formula to calculate nearly every vehicle quarter mile et and trapspeed until you start getting into the sub 10 second cars where generally you have to start making more power than 10whp to cut .1sec or add trapspeed.
So realistically (im guessing here since we are not sure of the reliable power the stock internals can handle) we should be able to reliably see apprx 400whp from a base TL which would mean that with traction mid 12's at approx 115mph should be the norm. That is comparable to a 2006+ M5 or 02-04 C5 Z06 or an 03-04 cobra with a tune/filter only. Not shabby by any means, but those of you tauting how we will blow corvettes and cobras off the road are sadly mistaken as these cars can be turned into beasts with just a few thousand dollars worth of work, in which we will be pushing the envelope to hang with these cars in stock trim. Dont get me wrong, it will still be fun to have a boosted TL because lets face it, no one expects these cars to be respectable when it comes to performance (atleast not the vette, cobra, bmw M crowd)
I don't think anyone has mentioned blowing away a modded Cobra or Vette. But while we're here, let's look at it. The turbo TL makes as much as a Cobra with exhaust and a tune. Let's not forget the Cobra is a heavier car at 3,900lbs. Run a TL at 12psi against a pullied Cobra and it should be a good run.
None of this means anything, we should see soon enough who's right. My personal opinion is a drag race is from a dig, the roll stuff is BS unless it's a random street encounter.
Really......
07-14-2009, 05:16 PM
#1543
Only thing I care is the 0-100 speed once I get a bus length on these new g37 and 370z or mustAngs, challengers, and camaro all I am going to do is lower my window and laugh. "you got beat by a luxury sedan, you sir now have a pos!"
07-14-2009, 08:00 PM
#1544
Three Wheelin'
theres a lot of cars i can beat...but im heavily worked....thats just to be taken under consideration
07-14-2009, 08:55 PM
#1545
Team Owner
ur only beating 13 sec cars, and maybe a high 12s.... the tl is already a mid 13 sec car, stock...you just can't get it off the line. so ya wanna beat a 3700 lbs g37? 3800 lbs camaro? whats the challenger? 5000? who cares... dont forget that ur car will be boosted, while the others remain NA... so if honda wants to take on other cars....make a goddamn rear wheel drive, and up the power numbers....
theres a lot of cars i can beat...but im heavily worked....thats just to be taken under consideration
theres a lot of cars i can beat...but im heavily worked....thats just to be taken under consideration
07-14-2009, 08:57 PM
#1546
Team Owner
Be careful getting too confident. You'll run into a plain looking car like mine with 200 more hp and 500lbs lighter that will leave you like you're standing still. It happened to me back in the day and it was a Fiero of all things.
07-14-2009, 10:37 PM
#1548
Team Owner
You've got to pay to play, beefing things up are part of going fast. Learning to shift fast but gentle at the same time goes a long way too. I've seen too many people that rip through the gears with all their strength yet aren't good shifters and put unnecessary stress on the trans and axles. Not saying this about Type-s09 but learning to properly drive goes along with certain mods too.
Drag radials will give you more than 4K. Mine typically went 10,000 or more and that's heating them up pretty good every weekend at the street races on a car that would regularly spin them at 50mph. I'm sure the FWD and nose heavy nature of the TL don't help with tire life but I doubt it could be any worse than what I did to them.
07-14-2009, 11:24 PM
#1549
Interesting. Did he ever make it to the track on them. He was the guy who ran a 13.9 in a base 6mt, right?
You've got to pay to play, beefing things up are part of going fast. Learning to shift fast but gentle at the same time goes a long way too. I've seen too many people that rip through the gears with all their strength yet aren't good shifters and put unnecessary stress on the trans and axles. Not saying this about Type-s09 but learning to properly drive goes along with certain mods too.
Drag radials will give you more than 4K. Mine typically went 10,000 or more and that's heating them up pretty good every weekend at the street races on a car that would regularly spin them at 50mph. I'm sure the FWD and nose heavy nature of the TL don't help with tire life but I doubt it could be any worse than what I did to them.
You've got to pay to play, beefing things up are part of going fast. Learning to shift fast but gentle at the same time goes a long way too. I've seen too many people that rip through the gears with all their strength yet aren't good shifters and put unnecessary stress on the trans and axles. Not saying this about Type-s09 but learning to properly drive goes along with certain mods too.
Drag radials will give you more than 4K. Mine typically went 10,000 or more and that's heating them up pretty good every weekend at the street races on a car that would regularly spin them at 50mph. I'm sure the FWD and nose heavy nature of the TL don't help with tire life but I doubt it could be any worse than what I did to them.
I stay away from race from a stop type races. I can leave almost any car from a roll but a $2000 Camaro can own me from a light I let them take off hard and pass them like they were standing still. Its the weight transfer that fights FWD, but makes the controled rolling burn out possable.
The boosted TL really shines at freeway speed. 4th is good to 140 MPH, at 70-80 MPH (4k RPM) the blower is running full psi and you are in VTEC. Not a bad place to be on a 65 degree night.
Last edited by Hi speed; 07-14-2009 at 11:27 PM.
07-15-2009, 12:08 AM
#1551
Ok so it seems that this page is dominated by drag racing either from a dig or roll. I have a question for the experts. So I know a lot of people on here are running staggered setups for tires (more understeer?) but isn't that a good thing since there's so much power up front? It would keep the car stable? Unless you're gonna road race isn't it better to have a more stable , understeering car with that much power? Or am I totally, and utterly wrong? I'm trying to learn...
07-15-2009, 01:30 AM
#1552
It came from the factory that way, so nothing I can do about it. 
A Tesla Roadster weighs around 2,700 pounds. We weigh nearly what, 900-1,000lbs more?
I don't think using the Tesla is a good example, imo.
I don't think the TL will really be a "TL" once its been modified to hold 750Hp. 
I thought Type-s09 had a base model & that was just his user name?
Because you can get to 110 very quickly!!
Look at the Tesla Roadster, it only has a top speed of 120 (I think), but will out accelerate a Porsche and a Ferrari in the 1/4. Its not always how fast the car is, but how fast it can get there.
Given, it would be disappointing to have the power and not exceed a certain speed.
Look at the Tesla Roadster, it only has a top speed of 120 (I think), but will out accelerate a Porsche and a Ferrari in the 1/4. Its not always how fast the car is, but how fast it can get there.
Given, it would be disappointing to have the power and not exceed a certain speed.
I don't think using the Tesla is a good example, imo.
I thought Type-s09 had a base model & that was just his user name?
07-15-2009, 07:06 AM
#1554
Ryan Christopher
The remark was "Hell why not have a 400 hp vehicle that does 110". So it is a perfect example of what a high HP/speed limited car can do. It had nothing to do with the weight of the car.
07-15-2009, 10:12 AM
#1555
It came from the factory that way, so nothing I can do about it.
A Tesla Roadster weighs around 2,700 pounds. We weigh nearly what, 900-1,000lbs more?
I don't think using the Tesla is a good example, imo.
I don't think the TL will really be a "TL" once its been modified to hold 750Hp.
I thought Type-s09 had a base model & that was just his user name?
A Tesla Roadster weighs around 2,700 pounds. We weigh nearly what, 900-1,000lbs more?
I don't think using the Tesla is a good example, imo.
I don't think the TL will really be a "TL" once its been modified to hold 750Hp.
I thought Type-s09 had a base model & that was just his user name?
07-15-2009, 10:21 AM
#1556
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
^ according to his dragtimes page he was running 50 wet as well.. .. lol.
.. lol.
07-15-2009, 02:30 PM
#1557
What we are really paying for in this turbo kit is the tunning that will come along with it. The right tubo size and the routing of the intercooler pipes along with the IC are all extras.
I know this has been said before but Pass or banbela or the comany they are partnered with should look at tunning for the supercharged guys. There is alot of money in it, provided you have made some advances in that department.
07-15-2009, 02:50 PM
#1558
Burning Brakes
PLease no discussion about price til I become a official vendor not long mid august or the thread will get closed .....like Ientioned the kit will come with ALL necessary components so after install u can start up ... That includes tune piping turbo blowoff valve downpipe intercooler & piping , injectors , bolts , clamps Aem ....complete kit ....hoses tees ...
07-15-2009, 02:53 PM
#1559
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
PLease no discussion about price til I become a official vendor not long mid august or the thread will get closed .....like Ientioned the kit will come with ALL necessary components so after install u can start up ... That includes tune piping turbo blowoff valve downpipe intercooler & piping , injectors , bolts , clamps Aem ....complete kit ....hoses tees ...
07-15-2009, 03:14 PM
#1560
Burning Brakes
actually have one in my car but never tuned with it , plus wouldn't be fair to tune with it then offer kit without it, but when I start to venture into the 500whp category I think then it would be a must ... Right now were just upping boost slowly .. Which is only fair for customers to see what this kit is really capable of without internal upgrade.which I'm pretty sure will handle what the turbo is rated at which is 700 hp .With a built motor..lot of speculation about what the Tl will and won't do regarding traction a so on , remind me of when the civic just came out everyone swore it couldn't run 10s won't hook so fourth.
Tl is capable I'll prove it in due time..
Tl is capable I'll prove it in due time..