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Old 10-18-2012, 09:56 PM
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95a front mount after 4000 miles





innovative doesnt have anything stronger then 95a. What am I to do?

Does anyone honestly think the tq damper would help?
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Originally Posted by libert69
95a front mount after 4000 miles





innovative doesnt have anything stronger then 95a. What am I to do?

Does anyone honestly think the tq damper would help?
I don't want to start a war but I have urethane on my GN and it still stretches one side and compresses the other so far under full throttle that it goes metal to metal but my urethane has never not gone back to it's original shape. You might want to look at what kind of urethane the Domestic guys are running because it's obviously different. There's something different about this urethane.

The more I look at it the more I see part of the problem besides the material itself. That metal sleeve is just too small in diameter. You need something that's twice the outer diameter and of course the same inner diameter. It would leave less urethane to deform (and slightly more NVH) but you would have much more surface area which I think would cure this issue. This would be a very simple mod from the maker of the mounts. Maybe I should patent it lol.
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Originally Posted by Joey tl
504 hp
433 tq
11.5 psi
This is pretty close to Rodney's turbo kit with the exception of the AEM EMS, fuel return and injectors. Not sure what the custom turbo actually is but the turbo we all have is obviously capable of 12lbs of boost.

I wonder what the longevity of the engine is with stock internals at that level of HP.

Rodney said that the rdx injectors run into the upper end of their duty cycle at around 400hp and has them modified to provide more flow. Seems as though it only takes a bump of 30cc/min to gain another 100hp but it's probably close to their limit as well.
Old 10-19-2012, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Joey tl
504 hp
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Originally Posted by KN_TL
This is pretty close to Rodney's turbo kit with the exception of the AEM EMS, fuel return and injectors. Not sure what the custom turbo actually is but the turbo we all have is obviously capable of 12lbs of boost.

I wonder what the longevity of the engine is with stock internals at that level of HP.

Rodney said that the rdx injectors run into the upper end of their duty cycle at around 400hp and has them modified to provide more flow. Seems as though it only takes a bump of 30cc/min to gain another 100hp but it's probably close to their limit as well.
I'm not sure I'm convinced of those #'s
From the video it doesn't sound like 500hp either.
Old 10-19-2012, 08:21 AM
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and your car was able to make almost identical #'s to libert on 7lbs less boost?
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was referring to parts list, used the wrong quote......
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I would be interested in hearing from Joey as well about the EMS and how that works out since I thought we would lose fuctions like the gauges, headlights and others that made it unattractive for most of us. I also feel like I have seen that car on YouTube for the last 4 years and wonder what took so long to tune.
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libert69 .. torque damper help little bit but if you can put dual torque damper ... sure with custom braket for front movement .. last chance for stopping donut !!
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the vid joey posted is from a while back even though the date is current. heres the new vid with a built/stroked motor that made the 500hp. Not to mention its 12:1 cr. Theres your 7lbs less boost for similiar hp numbers.

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Originally Posted by hondazex
libert69 .. torque damper help little bit but if you can put dual torque damper ... sure with custom braket for front movement .. last chance for stopping donut !!
ive seen the tq dampers that go on the rear of the motor. what damper is this one?

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The torque damper can help with shock but the mounts will have the same amount of load on them during steady state pulls. They have no effect other than to slow down the movement which can help with wheel hop and response but the mounts will still have the same failure. You could probably modify the existing mounts without even buying new ones if you can find the proper sleeve in the center.
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So, sorry to get off topic guys...again .

IHC, can you clear your PMs? Got a couple questions for you.

Sorry guys.
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replaced the radiator hoses with some silicone ones. even though the rubber hoses were wrapped in dei exhaust wrap, they were still cracked in the area where they touch the manifold piping. these silicone hoses are a little easier to manipulate in terms of bending so I need to twist them a little more so they dont sit on the piping



added an oil temp sensor to the drain plug. it certainly takes a lot longer then i originally expected for the oil temps to reach over 180.

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Originally Posted by libert69
replaced the radiator hoses with some silicone ones. even though the rubber hoses were wrapped in dei exhaust wrap, they were still cracked in the area where they touch the manifold piping. these silicone hoses are a little easier to manipulate in terms of bending so I need to twist them a little more so they dont sit on the piping



added an oil temp sensor to the drain plug. it certainly takes a lot longer then i originally expected for the oil temps to reach over 180.

I just had an argument on another forum with a chick and i tried telling her that on a cold start in a cold climate, if you let it idle for 10 minutes with no driving that sometimes the oil will never hit a minimum temp of 160 degrees. I also tried to explain that the oil takes a lot longer to warm up than the water but she apparently knows better lol. How long would you say it takes the oil to get to 160 without driving?
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I just had an argument on another forum with a chick and i tried telling her that on a cold start in a cold climate, if you let it idle for 10 minutes with no driving that sometimes the oil will never hit a minimum temp of 160 degrees. I also tried to explain that the oil takes a lot longer to warm up than the water but she apparently knows better lol. How long would you say it takes the oil to get to 160 without driving?
only drove the car once since installing the sensor and it was after an oil change to check for leaks. i drove around for about 10 minutes in stop n go with a 5 minute idle warm up. when i got back to my house the temp gauge was only at 185. it was roughly 68 degrees outside as well.

i would think it would take a minimum of 15 minutes for the oil to get over 160 just from idling.
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Joey you really gotta let me have a ride in that thing. *drool*
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yea thats psi...16psi on the dyno made 500whp...no idea where it stands now. cold weather is great lol. breaks the tires loose in 4th gear close to 100mph. pretty pointless at this psi until i get new tires but great for those 100-160mph runs. New m5 sees nothing but taillights

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That's what I'm talking about, some real boost lol. Life begins at 20psi.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:46 AM
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That's what I'm talking about.
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
I just had an argument on another forum with a chick and i tried telling her that on a cold start in a cold climate, if you let it idle for 10 minutes with no driving that sometimes the oil will never hit a minimum temp of 160 degrees. I also tried to explain that the oil takes a lot longer to warm up than the water but she apparently knows better lol. How long would you say it takes the oil to get to 160 without driving?
Low speed driving in near 0ºF ambients, the oil in the pan never hit 160 on my J30A1. 130-150 was more typical.
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Holy crap! thats crazy talk right there! looks like its just the exotics for competition now!
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damn

but Bert, not to shizz on your turf, how much usable HP are you putting down? if you go to a track what do you think your 1/4 mile time would be?

either way, congrats on being the first TL to hit that boost level
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Originally Posted by swoosh
damn

but Bert, not to shizz on your turf, how much usable HP are you putting down? if you go to a track what do you think your 1/4 mile time would be?

either way, congrats on being the first TL to hit that boost level
12.9@135mph lol. Knowing Bert we will know the answer eventually.
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^^^ haha werd....

man I hope he traps around the 135mph mark....that will be awesome....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
damn

but Bert, not to shizz on your turf, how much usable HP are you putting down? if you go to a track what do you think your 1/4 mile time would be?

either way, congrats on being the first TL to hit that boost level
like i said in the post, at that psi my rather bald nitto invos spin at 100mph

but in 5th gear at that boost i can put all that power to the ground. i certainly dont see that much boost in any other gear...only 5th.

going to buying nitto nt05s pretty soon so I can put some more power to the ground.

ive been wanting to hit the track but i think im a little scared lol...i waited so long to get this car done and after 3 months of teaching myself tunerstudio, i have a solid map and tune with little to no bugs. i would be so pissed if i hit the track and break a gear. breaking an axle is nothing but having to pull the trans is bitch.
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Originally Posted by libert69
like i said in the post, at that psi my rather bald nitto invos spin at 100mph

but in 5th gear at that boost i can put all that power to the ground. i certainly dont see that much boost in any other gear...only 5th.

going to buying nitto nt05s pretty soon so I can put some more power to the ground.

ive been wanting to hit the track but i think im a little scared lol...i waited so long to get this car done and after 3 months of teaching myself tunerstudio, i have a solid map and tune with little to no bugs. i would be so pissed if i hit the track and break a gear. breaking an axle is nothing but having to pull the trans is bitch.
It's easy to get carried away at the track, I've done a whole track burnout from being nervous. All you have to do is roll out normall as you would when not racing, shift slowly and begin putting the power down. You'll leave a second on the table but the mph will be the same. That car should be in the low 130s assuming 600whp and 3500lbs. Pretend the other car is not there and run your own race. It hard to not get into the throttle when someone is pulling away but chances are you will catch them.
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man I understand your nervousness....you have spend the past year or more to get this car to where it is and now you wanna enjoy it and not put it back in the garage....

well, hope you get to hit the track before its tooo cold out there and get us some bonerrr numbers....
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I haven't posted or checked this thread since the first kits were released. So glad to hear that you guys are running 500+whp. I do have a ton of questions, specifically towards Libert, whats your CR? Did you only replace your pistons and rods? Have you had any other troubles with the car handling power aside from the old A/T trans and the original pistons? Who built the motor? And finally can i have a ride?
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
I haven't posted or checked this thread since the first kits were released. So glad to hear that you guys are running 500+whp. I do have a ton of questions, specifically towards Libert, whats your CR? Did you only replace your pistons and rods? Have you had any other troubles with the car handling power aside from the old A/T trans and the original pistons? Who built the motor? And finally can i have a ride?
9:1 cr
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no major problems now with the power level. not getting traction below 70mph and with the cold weather its worse. tires are pretty bald so new rubber in the spring. if and when i start to hook in the lower gears i may begin to break things but theres only one way to find out. just had a 300 mile road trip to atlantic city from long island without a hiccup. im always tunning on the fly just so i know things are perfect.

still get 28mpg on the highway also.
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i think a while back a few people with the megasquirt ecu purchsed the bluetooth adapter...if anybody has one and wants to sell it then let me know. efi is on backorder for a little bit
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I dont understand...

I am new to acuras, have always owned camaros. Anyway, my buddy owns a supercharged cobalt ss, he is putting down around 500whp (dyno). one thing i know is that even with top and bottom end work, it did not cost no $10g. I dont think he even spent 5. that is a 4 cyl. my TL is the 3.2 v6, whats the difference? i want to be able to whoop his ass! i need someone to simply tell me that the choice to go from chevy to acura was a good idea...
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Platinum556
I am new to acuras, have always owned camaros. Anyway, my buddy owns a supercharged cobalt ss, he is putting down around 500whp (dyno). one thing i know is that even with top and bottom end work, it did not cost no $10g. I dont think he even spent 5. that is a 4 cyl. my TL is the 3.2 v6, whats the difference? i want to be able to whoop his ass! i need someone to simply tell me that the choice to go from chevy to acura was a good idea...
Thanks!
There are a couple of differences there that make for the additional cost. First and foremost is that the cobalt already comes boosted. That right there is why there's an extra $5k to boost the TL. Second, the TL has 2 more cylinders so things like injectors, pistons, rods, head work, etc are going to cost more.
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ive been running a custom magnaflow exhaust since the start. 3" ss piping from the downpipe all the way back with a 16" or 18" (cant recall) magnaflow resonator where the stock mid muffler would be. after the split the piping is still 3" and theres 2 magnaflow straight through mufflers

i swapped just the magnaflow mufflers for 2 of those HKS hi power mufflers. now, im very disappointed to say the least. the car sounds almost exactly the same as before. I know the turbo acts as a muffler but damn...not even the slightest change in exhaust note expect for deceleration at higher rpms. even then its nothing major.

anything i can do to try and replicate the tone that is supposed to come from these mufflers? (seen here)...i dont think removing the resonator will do anything other then give me that unwanted drone


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I'm going to do some experimenting with the exhaust. I have to move or shorten my mid muffler because it drags over speed bumps. I have a feeling that the mid muffler is doing most of the suppression.

I also want to fix my downpipe so it's tucked up next to the crossover pipe. It's another source of dragging.
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what do you mean by "dragging"? is the muffler/crossover "dragging" the exhaust tone?
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physically dragging on the ground because I'm dropped.
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holy shit....i thought it was something else....

i hope thats not you



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