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Old 03-02-2013, 04:01 PM
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Hey, you still have the light up bezel around the keyhole, what gives?! This looks more like the 1.5 diet!
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bwahaha you figure out how to get that thing off!!!

Also relocated the VSA OFF switch today to the main part of the dash board by the battery kill switch. Being i have no use for the trunk release or mirror controls, I'm just gonna ditch the lower dash cover.

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Can all or parts of the evap stuff be removed without a cel ?
Is there just a sensor that needs to stay plugged in and I can remove the rest ?
Trying to take this out today if I can lose some or all the weight without a cel.
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everything you're looking for can be found here..

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1362
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Looks awesome....you know I have something in the works with the switches and I think you should do it too
Old 03-04-2013, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by richardparker
Can all or parts of the evap stuff be removed without a cel ?
Is there just a sensor that needs to stay plugged in and I can remove the rest ?
Trying to take this out today if I can lose some or all the weight without a cel.
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everything you're looking for can be found here..

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=1362
The few people who have removed it have a cel. That link you posted is not accurate. I pmed that guy and he said the cel did pop up and he never figured out how to delete it without a cel.
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Looks awesome....you know I have something in the works with the switches and I think you should do it too
Haha we'll see, I wanna get my dash board situation figured out first

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The few people who have removed it have a cel. That link you posted is not accurate. I pmed that guy and he said the cel did pop up and he never figured out how to delete it without a cel.
oh well....can't say I really care if the CEL is on or not...
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I think it was Brian6speed who didn't like the rusty dash structure, so this is for you hahaha. After some investigation that portion of the dash frame is utterly useless for me with the lack of radio/navi/etc weight on it. So guess what? it's gone....for good....about 4-5lbs of worthless rusty steel total so far. stay tuned for more dash mods...

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boy you guys are spoiled lately with pic updates.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:44 PM
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for some reason, I always thought you were AT...
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REALLY??? sorry boss but no lol

What if everything x'd out in red in this pic were to just sorta disappear?

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hmm, that will look interesting...not sure good, but interesting
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just trying to brainstorm ideas on how to simply/reduce the dash and prep for a cage.
Old 03-04-2013, 09:39 PM
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Rip *everything* out!! And yes, we are spoiled with all the pix and thank you for that!
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haha where you been man?!?! We'll see what happens but I'm glad you're appreciating the pics
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before hacking it up, do you want to trade for my cracked dash???
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Haha I wish, how'd the diet/track guy get a non-cracked dash?!
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haha, well I would sell my dash if I remove it as a whole
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Is that an AP1 shift knob?
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Originally Posted by Maharajamd
Is that an AP1 shift knob?
It's one of the newer CTR type shift knobs.
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Originally Posted by swoosh
for some reason, I always thought you were AT...
Isn't the AT extra weight?
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It's about 100lbs heavier yes.
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Yes...AT is almost 150lbs more...and 5% higher loss of power
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Originally Posted by vill0169
just trying to brainstorm ideas on how to simply/reduce the dash and prep for a cage.
Gonna rip out and work on my dash soon. I would just leave the dash uncut except if needed for cage. Just gut the underside of the dash as much as possible. I would cover it in alcantara or suede for reduced glare.

You could always make your own out of aluminum and cover it too.

Wonder why the a/t for your cars is so heavy. The at version of my car is only 50 lbs heavier than my 6mt.

Are you gonna do a 6 point cage? What material?

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I bet you could trade that portion of the upper dash with someone like hofiveo for a few hundred bucks.

Nice updates, though...I always love to know how light this car could be!

Any more info on that EVAP can thing? Is there a CEL? Tell me now. Not any thanks or pleases or anything. Just more info that I could have found with the direction you already pointed me in.
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So Rex, when are you getting a fiberglass body?

Or carbon fiber
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Originally Posted by brian6speed
Gonna rip out and work on my dash soon. I would just leave the dash uncut except if needed for cage. Just gut the underside of the dash as much as possible. I would cover it in alcantara or suede for reduced glare.

You could always make your own out of aluminum and cover it too.

Wonder why the a/t for your cars is so heavy. The at version of my car is only 50 lbs heavier than my 6mt.

Are you gonna do a 6 point cage? What material?
Was going to keep this on the DL but I just talked to a local cage builder and decided on at least an 8 point cage with a tie to a custom rear strut brace and A, B and roof gusset plates. We'll see where he prices it but might move on it sometime this season.

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I bet you could trade that portion of the upper dash with someone like hofiveo for a few hundred bucks.

Nice updates, though...I always love to know how light this car could be!

Any more info on that EVAP can thing? Is there a CEL? Tell me now. Not any thanks or pleases or anything. Just more info that I could have found with the direction you already pointed me in.
Not much for updates, pretty much you delete it you get a CEL.

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So Rex, when are you getting a fiberglass body?

Or carbon fiber
psh, that'll be the day...
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Jeremy,
on the Evap Canister you get a CEL and you will be smelling gas all the time....I have yet to do this mod as I love driving with my windows down (only front 2) and would hate to sniff on gas all the time....

Rex,
weigh her in already datgammit !!!

I might drive through the weigh station 10 odd miles away from home and see if I have put on of dropped some weight...
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I removed all my evap stuff and the only smell of gas I had was for about 30secs to a minute after I pulled the lines because the vapor was pressurized and you could see it coming out.
I left a long section of rubber vapor line so I could face it down low.I did not remove that line from the top tank.
Doing it like that you might smell vapor in car.
I remove all the stuff under the hood too and capped the mani off.
Quick way to save 7lbs,atleast that's what my evap stuff weighed.
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Originally Posted by richardparker
I removed all my evap stuff and the only smell of gas I had was for about 30secs to a minute after I pulled the lines because the vapor was pressurized and you could see it coming out.
I left a long section of rubber vapor line so I could face it down low.I did not remove that line from the top tank.
Doing it like that you might smell vapor in car.
I remove all the stuff under the hood too and capped the mani off.
Quick way to save 7lbs,atleast that's what my evap stuff weighed.

Yeah I don't really smell gas in my garage anymore but who knows how it'll be on a hot day


Anil, I really do want to weigh the car but I can't just drive it down to a weigh place and weigh it lol. For me it's kinda a pain in the ass.
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^^^

so can you drive her on the streets? or not at all....was thinking we could do a little run
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Haha the only "run" we'll be having will be at MAM in April man, the car is completely unstreetable these days
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What! Just change the tires.
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im amazed with all the work youve done to this car
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Thanks Jefferson and welcome!
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Hey guys wanted to run some ideas by you for some upgrades I'm considering this month. Looks like I'll get to put some of my tax return towards the car and I'm trying to prioritize what I should do first.

Here's what I'm considering in no particular order:
Motor mounts
TL-S front sway bar
New rear wing (doing regardless)
3.7L IM/TB
4" Intake (probably will do regardless)
PCI LCA bushings

I have an idea what's more benefitical but how would you rank them? Or is there anything mod wise I haven't thought of yet?
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Originally Posted by vill0169

Here's what I'm considering in no particular order:


1) 4" Intake (probably will do regardless)

2) 3.7L IM/TB

3) Motor mounts

4) TL-S front sway bar

5) PCI LCA bushings

6) New rear wing (doing regardless)
If you can group any of the mods together, I would go with the 3.7 mani/ZDX TB and 4" intake as one mod.

Or, do the motor mounts, sway bar, and compliance bushing together.

I would do the rear wing last.

Either way, whatever you think would benefit you the most, start there
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yeah that's defintely how I'm looking at it too
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Am I the only one with the mindset of suspension first?

Come on man, you're a tracker too! Get that suspension perfect then worry about an extra 10-15hp.
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+ 1 on everything he said....

On the intake side, I would also add ported and polished runners...that will gain you a lot...

another thing I would suggest is the Energy Bushings for the sway bar and moog end links....those are awesome !!!!

I have the innovative engine mounts and they work very very well....I have the 60A and I see slight donut-ing....I reached out to them recently and the said, order a new set and we will refund you the full $$$ and you will just pay for shipping...I know XLR8 has some mounts too...look into both options

I recently got the Type S front sway bar from someone on the forum and got moog end links and energy bushings....I need to do this along with the mounts....

now dropping the sub frame is something am looking into....
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I definitely get the benefit in finishing off the suspension mods but would really like to see the difference with that slight bump in power and the 100+ lbs I've probably taken off the car this winter. I've just noticed corner exit as a place where the car needs more power or shorter gears. But we all know gearing won't be happening anytime soon.

Also, if I did the IM/TB intake, it would set me up really good to add cams and a tune later in the year or next winter. just a thought.

But either way I'm doing a new rear wing and front splitter this spring to make full use of my other aero mods.


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