Tl / Accord V6 Headers Are Here Look!!!!(Product Details pg 9)
01-25-2006 | 04:24 PM
#281
6th Gear
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Originally Posted by ESP
Hey Guys,
This is Mike Miranda owner of E-Shift Performance LLC. I have been in the Import industry for about ten years. E-Shift Performance is a new company in business for about seven months, but, my prior experience is with managing SPI PowerExcel. With that responsiblility it allowed me to be in the designing, fabrication, Dyno tuning and installation departments. We have developed and installed different power related systems such as Turbo Systems, Twin Charged (Mini), Nitrous Systems and engine development.
The E-ProCat was prototyped for “Nitrotiger” as per his request. Again, this was a one-off design that after it’s installation and test results, he urged us to let it be available in small amounts to the guys in this forum. With that said, we needed some form of confirmation from the group for their interest in the product. Secondly, we intended to use this as advertisement for our new business. The amount needed for us to start this project is 15 to 20 confirmed orders.
Listed below are the components that comprise the E-ProCat:
· 3 Metal Cat (around $200.00 each plus shipping and handling)
· 2 Top cylinder Head Flange $20.00 each
· 2 Mid Pipe Flange $15.00 each
· 2 Center Cat Flange $15.00 each
· 4 o2 sensor bungs $9.99 each
· Burns Stainless U bends $34.00 each
· Plus custom cutting and welding
The manufacturer is Metal Cat. You can look it up on the web. The EPA and CARB information is listed there. We are NOT claiming or confirming that this system is EPA or smog compliant. The E-ProCat in it’s design was developed to be as EPA sensitive as possible, that is why we incurred the time and cost of the Cat. We again, only designed this for “Nitrotiger” and have NOT yet tested this at a smog station. We have not had any engine check light issues with this car.
This is a complete bolt-on system. If any issues, your original system could be replaced at will. This is one of the best Cat’s on the market today. The test results from “Nitrotiger’s” car suggest that he is getting better gas mileage as well. This system has shown over 21whp and 14 ft. torque on average. On a natural aspirated engine this is a significant gain by just exhaust bolt-on.
Remember guys, this is not our main business, just a value add product to our company. Thanks for reviewing the product and if you are still interested. Let us know. Thanks.
This is Mike Miranda owner of E-Shift Performance LLC. I have been in the Import industry for about ten years. E-Shift Performance is a new company in business for about seven months, but, my prior experience is with managing SPI PowerExcel. With that responsiblility it allowed me to be in the designing, fabrication, Dyno tuning and installation departments. We have developed and installed different power related systems such as Turbo Systems, Twin Charged (Mini), Nitrous Systems and engine development.
The E-ProCat was prototyped for “Nitrotiger” as per his request. Again, this was a one-off design that after it’s installation and test results, he urged us to let it be available in small amounts to the guys in this forum. With that said, we needed some form of confirmation from the group for their interest in the product. Secondly, we intended to use this as advertisement for our new business. The amount needed for us to start this project is 15 to 20 confirmed orders.
Listed below are the components that comprise the E-ProCat:
· 3 Metal Cat (around $200.00 each plus shipping and handling)
· 2 Top cylinder Head Flange $20.00 each
· 2 Mid Pipe Flange $15.00 each
· 2 Center Cat Flange $15.00 each
· 4 o2 sensor bungs $9.99 each
· Burns Stainless U bends $34.00 each
· Plus custom cutting and welding
The manufacturer is Metal Cat. You can look it up on the web. The EPA and CARB information is listed there. We are NOT claiming or confirming that this system is EPA or smog compliant. The E-ProCat in it’s design was developed to be as EPA sensitive as possible, that is why we incurred the time and cost of the Cat. We again, only designed this for “Nitrotiger” and have NOT yet tested this at a smog station. We have not had any engine check light issues with this car.
This is a complete bolt-on system. If any issues, your original system could be replaced at will. This is one of the best Cat’s on the market today. The test results from “Nitrotiger’s” car suggest that he is getting better gas mileage as well. This system has shown over 21whp and 14 ft. torque on average. On a natural aspirated engine this is a significant gain by just exhaust bolt-on.
Remember guys, this is not our main business, just a value add product to our company. Thanks for reviewing the product and if you are still interested. Let us know. Thanks.
Full break down, covering all details. haha and Jersey residents know, when in doubt if you cant pass inspection you can always buy the sticker.
01-25-2006 | 05:40 PM
#283
I like to whistle in my
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sounds good to me. Maybe something I could get down the road but I don't even have an intake yet for this car:P (thinkin bout fujita to be different) but is anyone considering wraping their ProCats. I know it was effective with my turbo set up and friends NA setup too on civics.
01-26-2006 | 09:09 AM
#285
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 883
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From: ?, NJ
Originally Posted by encrypted03
Will you guys produce the "offroad only" headers as well, ones w/o the cats? I'm not too worried about emissions, especially since it's a new car, and they are a long way away.
01-26-2006 | 10:37 AM
#287
Burning Brakes
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Posts: 883
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From: ?, NJ
Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
Does anyone know what a wire throttle body is? IF so is this what's on our TL's 
The TL uses the all-electronic Drive-by-Wire Throttle System, first developed for Honda Formula 1 racing engines. It senses accelerator pedal motion, then a computer weighs this data against vehicle speed and engine data in real time and opens the throttle accordingly.
I am guessing the wire throttle body is just a wire connected from the pedal to the throttle.
01-26-2006 | 10:41 AM
#288
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Burning Brakes
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From: south jersey
Originally Posted by blktl1
The TL uses the all-electronic Drive-by-Wire Throttle System, first developed for Honda Formula 1 racing engines. It senses accelerator pedal motion, then a computer weighs this data against vehicle speed and engine data in real time and opens the throttle accordingly.
I am guessing the wire throttle body is just a wire connected from the pedal to the throttle.
I am guessing the wire throttle body is just a wire connected from the pedal to the throttle.
01-26-2006 | 10:42 AM
#289
tTLiang
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Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
Does anyone know what a wire throttle body is? IF so is this what's on our TL's
i know what a throttle body is
i know what a throttle cable is
what do you mean by that???
01-26-2006 | 10:46 AM
#290
Burning Brakes
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From: ?, NJ
Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
I think your 1st explanation may be correct. I was trying to see if we can get our throttle body ported. And the guy i found say'a he is not doing the wire throttle body at this time. Basicly i am trying to get all the power i can get with out forced induction
01-26-2006 | 10:52 AM
#291
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Burning Brakes
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From: south jersey
Originally Posted by blktl1
I think that I would leave our throttle body alone. Our computer is way to sensative and this may not be such a good thing to do. i would leave it alone for a reputable throttle body company to tackle this. I
01-26-2006 | 11:19 AM
#293
Originally Posted by asilos
Hey guys don't mean to butt in, but can anyone give me a carfax report?
Check this out...http://www.bandbhobbies.com/jwebb/vin_test.asp
01-26-2006 | 11:25 AM
#294
Burning Brakes
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From: ?, NJ
Originally Posted by MichaelBenz
no working but move this convo else where please!!!!!!
01-26-2006 | 04:31 PM
#295
Instructor
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Posts: 106
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From: bloomfield,nj
Does it make it louder?
Originally Posted by Nitrotiger
There is one more cat pic that replaces the one on the down pipe i will try and shoot one This Mod is awesome guy's Drove the car last night on the backroads and it got 33mpg 
on the highway 27mpg to 28mpg the aem is probally sucking up more air so the fuel is burning faster but hey i only lost 1 mpg on highway and intown with the aem
Drove the car last night on the backroads and it got 33mpg on the highway 27mpg to 28mpg the aem is probally sucking up more air so the fuel is burning faster but hey i only lost 1 mpg on highway and intown with the aem
01-26-2006 | 06:03 PM
#297
Originally Posted by blktl1
no working but move this convo else where please!!!!!!
01-26-2006 | 07:58 PM
#298
tehLEGOman
Joined: Dec 2004
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From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by ESP
Hey Guys,
This is Mike Miranda owner of E-Shift Performance LLC. I have been in the Import industry for about ten years. E-Shift Performance is a new company in business for about seven months, but, my prior experience is with managing SPI PowerExcel. With that responsiblility it allowed me to be in the designing, fabrication, Dyno tuning and installation departments. We have developed and installed different power related systems such as Turbo Systems, Twin Charged (Mini), Nitrous Systems and engine development.
The E-ProCat was prototyped for “Nitrotiger” as per his request. Again, this was a one-off design that after it’s installation and test results, he urged us to let it be available in small amounts to the guys in this forum. With that said, we needed some form of confirmation from the group for their interest in the product. Secondly, we intended to use this as advertisement for our new business. The amount needed for us to start this project is 15 to 20 confirmed orders.
Listed below are the components that comprise the E-ProCat:
· 3 Metal Cat (around $200.00 each plus shipping and handling)
· 2 Top cylinder Head Flange $20.00 each
· 2 Mid Pipe Flange $15.00 each
· 2 Center Cat Flange $15.00 each
· 4 o2 sensor bungs $9.99 each
· Burns Stainless U bends $34.00 each
· Plus custom cutting and welding
The manufacturer is Metal Cat. You can look it up on the web. The EPA and CARB information is listed there. We are NOT claiming or confirming that this system is EPA or smog compliant. The E-ProCat in it’s design was developed to be as EPA sensitive as possible, that is why we incurred the time and cost of the Cat. We again, only designed this for “Nitrotiger” and have NOT yet tested this at a smog station. We have not had any engine check light issues with this car.
This is a complete bolt-on system. If any issues, your original system could be replaced at will. This is one of the best Cat’s on the market today. The test results from “Nitrotiger’s” car suggest that he is getting better gas mileage as well. This system has shown over 21whp and 14 ft. torque on average. On a natural aspirated engine this is a significant gain by just exhaust bolt-on.
Remember guys, this is not our main business, just a value add product to our company. Thanks for reviewing the product and if you are still interested. Let us know. Thanks.
This is Mike Miranda owner of E-Shift Performance LLC. I have been in the Import industry for about ten years. E-Shift Performance is a new company in business for about seven months, but, my prior experience is with managing SPI PowerExcel. With that responsiblility it allowed me to be in the designing, fabrication, Dyno tuning and installation departments. We have developed and installed different power related systems such as Turbo Systems, Twin Charged (Mini), Nitrous Systems and engine development.
The E-ProCat was prototyped for “Nitrotiger” as per his request. Again, this was a one-off design that after it’s installation and test results, he urged us to let it be available in small amounts to the guys in this forum. With that said, we needed some form of confirmation from the group for their interest in the product. Secondly, we intended to use this as advertisement for our new business. The amount needed for us to start this project is 15 to 20 confirmed orders.
Listed below are the components that comprise the E-ProCat:
· 3 Metal Cat (around $200.00 each plus shipping and handling)
· 2 Top cylinder Head Flange $20.00 each
· 2 Mid Pipe Flange $15.00 each
· 2 Center Cat Flange $15.00 each
· 4 o2 sensor bungs $9.99 each
· Burns Stainless U bends $34.00 each
· Plus custom cutting and welding
The manufacturer is Metal Cat. You can look it up on the web. The EPA and CARB information is listed there. We are NOT claiming or confirming that this system is EPA or smog compliant. The E-ProCat in it’s design was developed to be as EPA sensitive as possible, that is why we incurred the time and cost of the Cat. We again, only designed this for “Nitrotiger” and have NOT yet tested this at a smog station. We have not had any engine check light issues with this car.
This is a complete bolt-on system. If any issues, your original system could be replaced at will. This is one of the best Cat’s on the market today. The test results from “Nitrotiger’s” car suggest that he is getting better gas mileage as well. This system has shown over 21whp and 14 ft. torque on average. On a natural aspirated engine this is a significant gain by just exhaust bolt-on.
Remember guys, this is not our main business, just a value add product to our company. Thanks for reviewing the product and if you are still interested. Let us know. Thanks.
I assume you will need 15-20 deposits before any production will take place.
Therefore, we need to start a list to see where we are at.
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01-27-2006 | 10:17 AM
#304
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From: Atlantic City NJ
Originally Posted by ACCURATEin
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01-27-2006 | 01:36 PM
#305
10th Gear
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Paypal deposits(E-Shift ProCat)
Here is the list on Paypal deposits (first name only) for the E-Shift ProCat.
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
01-27-2006 | 01:52 PM
#306
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 106
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From: bloomfield,nj
Originally Posted by ESP
Here is the list on Paypal deposits (first name only) for the E-Shift ProCat.
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
01-27-2006 | 04:51 PM
#308
Originally Posted by ESP
Here is the list on Paypal deposits (first name only) for the E-Shift ProCat.
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
Confirmed:
1)Paul
2)Brett
3)Michael
4)Dennis
5)Henryk
We will update this list has soon as we recieve payments(deposits)
We will need about 15 to 20 people.
Thank you!
01-27-2006 | 04:57 PM
#309
Import and Domestic owner
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 879
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From: Atlantic City NJ
Im first on the list and I OK it for you to move up in front of me, I know I was after you with the deposit. I am anxious about these, for some reason, I know it is just me but my crazy thinking has me thinking that I will not get too much of a gain out of these. Maybe I am just afraid of the worst! It is hard for me to explain but I think crazy. If everyone is getting the same amount of HP, I would be the one thinking that I wont do as good.
01-27-2006 | 05:01 PM
#310
I'm sure once they make em...they'll do em all at the same time for economies of scale...so they prob will get released all at the same time....its just mine have to come all the way to me here in Indiana, which is why I wanted to be up on the list early! Dont want to be reading about these things and not have em yet! (lol) 
01-27-2006 | 05:06 PM
#311
Oderint dum metuant.
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From: Lake Wylie
Originally Posted by MichaelBenz
Interesting...I was first to call and make deposit...but third on list? Whats up with that? Just cause I didnt act like I was gonna piss my pants if I didnt get the dang thing tomorrow and post 15 times, doesnt mean that I am not just as anxious? That sux man!
01-27-2006 | 06:05 PM
#312
Racer
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Posts: 346
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From: SF, Bay Area
Originally Posted by blktl1
If you find O2 simulators, this may be possible but your computer will go crazy with no cats. This will result in a lose of power.
01-27-2006 | 06:29 PM
#313
Instructor
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From: Alamogordo, NM
Originally Posted by encrypted03
Hope you guys plan to make them w/o cats
01-27-2006 | 10:15 PM
#315
10th Gear
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Update for E-Shift ProCat!!
Hello,
Dont worry the first 15 to 20 customers will get the E-Shift ProCat at the same time. Customers who want the product shipped will be shipped to you. The E-Shift ProCat comes with a warranty card. You will have to fill that out and be mailed out to E-Shift Performance. The E-Shift Procat will come with a heat shield and a heat wrap standard.
For the first 20 customers we will be having a special for install and dyno run. Price will be $150.00 USD. Your vehicle will be dynoed without the E-Shift ProCat and then with the E-Shift ProCat.
Dont worry the first 15 to 20 customers will get the E-Shift ProCat at the same time. Customers who want the product shipped will be shipped to you. The E-Shift ProCat comes with a warranty card. You will have to fill that out and be mailed out to E-Shift Performance. The E-Shift Procat will come with a heat shield and a heat wrap standard.
For the first 20 customers we will be having a special for install and dyno run. Price will be $150.00 USD. Your vehicle will be dynoed without the E-Shift ProCat and then with the E-Shift ProCat.
01-27-2006 | 11:51 PM
#316
I like to whistle in my
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WOW. nice. too bad I dont have it now. Still recovering from the holidays and V-day around the corner. But like others, plan to get in the future... Better mod than getting the CT exhaust first.
01-30-2006 | 12:08 AM
#318
Pro
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From: Queens, New York
Like some of you, i too was worried about the gains from this "header" thats why i didnt put a deposit on it yet, but i was looking through some old honda tuning mags and im sure some of u remember the issue with the 3rd gen TL.
HT did a dyno of a stock 6sp TL and they pulled it 3 times and came up with a baseline of 215hp and 194 lb-ft. The bolted on a injen intake, comptech exhaust and a sun voltage and ground system. After all that they said it pulled consistant pulls in the high 230's and topped out with a pull at 245hp....lets say the voltage and ground sys made 5hp then it brings it down to 240hp...Nitro made 261hp...thats a gain of 21hp...
Im not sayingg everyone is going to get 21HP, every car responds differantly, some of us will see higher gains than others, but after stumbling across this article again im sold on the cat and am puttin my deposit tomorrow...Another thing to look at is differant dynos and settings will give out differant readings...but i hope this loosens some of us up alittle bit and i know this made it easier for me to pull the trigger on this mod.
Travis
HT did a dyno of a stock 6sp TL and they pulled it 3 times and came up with a baseline of 215hp and 194 lb-ft. The bolted on a injen intake, comptech exhaust and a sun voltage and ground system. After all that they said it pulled consistant pulls in the high 230's and topped out with a pull at 245hp....lets say the voltage and ground sys made 5hp then it brings it down to 240hp...Nitro made 261hp...thats a gain of 21hp...
Im not sayingg everyone is going to get 21HP, every car responds differantly, some of us will see higher gains than others, but after stumbling across this article again im sold on the cat and am puttin my deposit tomorrow...Another thing to look at is differant dynos and settings will give out differant readings...but i hope this loosens some of us up alittle bit and i know this made it easier for me to pull the trigger on this mod.
Travis
01-30-2006 | 12:27 AM
#319
One on the right for me
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From: Bay Area, CA
for those of us who dont remember the HT article the link below is the threat about it.
as for the headers, i have more of a concern about the warranty (all catalytic converters have to come with a warranty) than the power gaains. it is not clear whether or not the other parts/welds, etc carry a warranty and if its parts and labor/only parts/labor for 6mo, etc
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...onda+tuning+TL
as for the headers, i have more of a concern about the warranty (all catalytic converters have to come with a warranty) than the power gaains. it is not clear whether or not the other parts/welds, etc carry a warranty and if its parts and labor/only parts/labor for 6mo, etc
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...onda+tuning+TL
01-30-2006 | 07:54 AM
#320
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From: Queens, New York
Originally Posted by subinf
for those of us who dont remember the HT article the link below is the threat about it.
as for the headers, i have more of a concern about the warranty (all catalytic converters have to come with a warranty) than the power gaains. it is not clear whether or not the other parts/welds, etc carry a warranty and if its parts and labor/only parts/labor for 6mo, etc
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...onda+tuning+TL
as for the headers, i have more of a concern about the warranty (all catalytic converters have to come with a warranty) than the power gaains. it is not clear whether or not the other parts/welds, etc carry a warranty and if its parts and labor/only parts/labor for 6mo, etc
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...onda+tuning+TL
Thanks Subinf for the link...it was too late last nite for me to go look for it...thanks again