Black_05_TL_6SP

Hey ttliang, what was the air temp and humidity when they ran the car on the dyno?? That plays a huge part in the output. Colder air means more power. I live down here in the south, I don't get to see cold temps all the time. I do enjoy the TL in the cold air!!!!! I talked to Mike early last week (2-15-06), I will be ordering a set of these. Very helpful on the phone, now I just have to get the $$$$ together to order them. I will try to get some before and after dyno's from a local shop down here.

Jason

invincible569

Michael Benz.. any updates on your install?

blktl1

Reguardless of the temp or humidity both before and after dynos are taken on the same day and same dyno. they show a 20 hp increase. i dont think that has much to do with it. I think if it was hotter, then the initial dyno would show lower as well . correct me if im wrong!

Nitrotiger

You are correct hot or cold 20hp increase is there no matter how you cut it. THere is somone alway's trying to down play someones hard work

trancemission

I dont see where Black_05_TL_6SP was trying to down play someones hard work. Sounded like a ligitimate question to me.

blktl1

I dont think he was downplaying NItro. He is buying them himself. I just think he wants to make sure he is getting the same gains as everyone else. i can understand that! He prob didnt know the dynos were done on the same day!

ttliang

dyno results are only for reference for that day. It's kinda stupid to tell people how many "whp" i have on my car. it's all relative. we have to focus on "gain" only within a close enough time window after a mod is done.

it was a pretty cool day here in NJ. but the before and after were done within a few hours. temp & humidity changes weren't noticible.

Like i mentioned, only ONE mod was done that day. all gains I saw should be all Pro-Cats. i was really impressed it gained as much as 18whp "ON TOP!!!" of AEM CAI. it even gained a few more whp as the intake was running hotter and hotter. the ECU was learning to optimize A/F ratio and other stuff.

you can feel the tq/hp on 6mt that's most important thing. you know you used to tap on the gas a bit to backout, now you just let go the clutch slowly. hope this helps.

MichaelBenz

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Nope...gotta get em here first? Still waiting for them to arrive.....

MichaelBenz

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Ok....stopped by the house for lunch today when the mailman was going to be coming by.....met him at the door. Cats showed up today. Box was in great shape overall and I dont expect any suprises at all (dents, ect) as they appear to be very well packed. I unpacked them enough to give em a basic once over, but havent unwrapped em from the bubble overwraps yet(time issue right now). Here is where I am at right now....all look good from the outset (closer inspection later) with new bolts,ect included and was packed in foam peanuts in box with bubble overwraps and I can see they are clearly labeled as to which one goes where. All looks A-OK from here so far....more later...

blktl1

Nice keep us updated!

Donte99TL

Does againstallodds1 have any other mods?

Nitrotiger

Remember Jersey guy's were meeting up Sat early the track opens at 9am i have a few of your numbers so let's chat by thursday to work out the details

ttliang

check his sig.

05TLTony

I called E-Shift Saturday and looks like I'll have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to order mine! Can't wait though.
Hey nitro, think I can check out your ride when I get mine installed?

ttliang

Englishtwon....so far...so early...so lazy....

blktl1

Where do you live? oh give me a break! you an do it. it will be a fun day to get some tls down there for a change!

ttliang

hey can we carpool? ha ha.

blktl1

pm me where you live. depending on where you live, ill pick you up!

trancemission

you guys, lets talk about meets in the meet forum.

Acuracy

Got the Procats installed today. I baselined at 220.3 HP and 196.5 TQ. After the cats i got 237.7 HP and 214.1 TQ. It feeels great throughout and iam definitly satisfied. BTW this is on a 5AT with only a AEM CAI going into the install. I think im gonna get the comptech exhaust to open up the breathing alittle more and i ordered to spacers..for a 100 bucks u cant go wrong.

BTW thanks nitro for getting this done

Travis

Nitrotiger

Congrats welcome to the E-shift pro cat club

ed99

Is 237.7hp with the Procats and the AEM CAI included or is that your future mod?? thx!!!

dragonlord

IMO the Comptech exhaust is not as powerful as the Magnaflow everyone is using.

MichaelBenz

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Just curious....what brings you to that conclusion? Any figures to back up the claim? I would think the comptech unit would be about the same or better than the magnaflow setup?? Not doubting you or arguing with you....just wondering what you are basing this statement on?

becker800

I would certainly like to know the same thing cause I am thinking about getting one of the 2

Acuracy

It includes the procats and the CAI...my future mods are the spacers, and either the comptech or magnaflow exhaust.....it sucks how much power the 5AT looses compared to the 6MT

Travis

ttliang

that's almost 18tq. how'd you do that?

Acuracy

lol...I was asking Mike the same thing

dan.....k

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Mine are shipping today. Hopefully I can have them installed by the end of next week.

JDBoogie

Ok, i am being a lazy bum and dont want to read 26 pages of posts.. Can someone sum up whats going on with these headers/Cats? I have a few specific questions also:

1) Whats the cost
2) Are they a simple bolt on? Do they require custom work/parts.
3) Do the throw codes after being installed.
4) Whats the lead time on geting them shipped once ordered.

Thanks.

J.

dragonlord

The first words were- "IMO". No one with Comptech has yet to talk about power gains-only the sound is not loud enough. I know can spin my tires at 1/2 throttle and into the 2nd gear shift ( and yes I have an AT). That was before my AEM. Again this is my OPINION only. Not hating anyone. Going to find a dyno around me to see where I'm at. Wish I could afford the S/C, but with a wife, ex-wife and kids, it's highly improbable.

Glad to stimulate our minds.

MichaelBenz

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bTwix

nice, I get mine next week

ACCURATEin

...Sweet! I can't wait to hear the review after you get them on. Hopefully they wont throw a CEL.

Nitrotiger

They should not everyone seems to be doing well and ihave over 3k on mine so far still going strong

encrypted03

Sweet! Just wondering if anyone was planning on doing a full review on these? I'd like to know a few things about em, noise increase, etc. I just bought a spare y-pipe, and I was planning on getting a custom set done w/o cats and a highflow y-pipe altogther.

ACCURATEin

That is correct. All the Naturally Aspirated TLs seem to be running fine with no CEL.

However, I'm waiting to hear a review from a Forced Induction TL before I grab my set. I am wondering how the Comptech Advanced Control Module will compensate for the extra airflow.

jdm_98r

You lost 15% of power through your drivetrain. I really don't get what there is to complain about. That is perfectly normal for any car. The only real difference between the two is gearing.

Acuracy

i baselined at 220...mike showed me some baselines for 6 speeds and they were basin at 240 in change

blktl1

My baseline was with an intake, exhaust, pulley and I baselined 244. I think that is what he was showing you!