Inaccurate

Thank you "beyond 1000"

Inaccurate

Single 3" Exhaust Sound Clips (click here)

Inaccurate

CHRONOLOGY OF DIET MODS
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Introduction I (01-15-2007)
Introduction II (03-08-2007)
Update 1 (01-20-2007)
Update 2 (02-12-2007)
Update 3 (03-03-2007)
Update 4 (05-12-2007)
Update 5 (05-19-2007)
Update 6 (08-05-2007)
Update 7 (08-24-2007)
Update 8 (11-17-2007)
Update 9 (06-30-2008)
Update 10 (09-03-2008)
Update 11 (01-24-2009)
Update 12 (08-31-2009)
Update 13 (01-26-2010)
Update 14 (07-30-2010)
Update 15 (02-27-2011)
Update 16 (04-23-2011)
Update 17 (08-23-2011)
Update 18 (01-10-2012)





POST OF SPECIAL INTEREST
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Do Not use the Butt Dynometer to measure the performance improvements from your TL Diet
The Thunderhill race-prepped TL





FAQ
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How much has performance increased? . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7
How much has the MPG improved? . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4
How has the Diet mods affected the weight distribution? . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5
Why are you doing this to a luxury car? . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4





ITEMIZED LIST OF WEIGHT REDUCTION
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84.0 Racing seats and racing restraint system (see Warning #3 below) (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
44.0 Reduced fuel (buy just 3.0 gallons at a time) (more info . 1 . 2 . )
40.0 Rims (more info)
36.0 Rear seat delete (more info . 1 . 2 . )
34.0 Spare tire delete (more info)
31.0 Sunroof delete (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . )
31.0 Interior trim & misc pieces (more info)
27.5 Braille battery (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . 8 . 9 . )
24.0 Interior carpet (more info . 1 . 2 . )
23.7 Single Exhaust System (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . )
23.0 Trunk panels (more info)
22.0 Lightweight tires (more info)
18.0 Front door interior panels (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
18.0 Firewall Insulation (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
17.5 Parking brake and lever (see Warning #1 below) (more info . 1 . 2 . )
17.0 Front bumper (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . )
16.0 Rear bumper (see Front Bumper for more info)
14.0 Rear door interior panels (more info . 1 . 2 . )
14.0 RV6 Precat delete (incl race pipe & misc brackets) (more info)
13.0 Radio delete (more info)
13.0 Personal weight loss attributed to this project (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
12.0 Shaved tires (more info . 1 . 2 . )
12.0 Center console (more info)
10.9 RacingBrake Two-piece rotors (more info)
10.0 Front seat kick panels (more info . 1 . 2 . )
10.3 BC Racing Coilovers (more info)
9.9 Evap charcoal canister (see Warning #4 below) (more info)
9.0 Side curtain airbags (see Warning #2 below) (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
8.5 Mid muffler delete (more info)
8.5 Seatbelts for rear seat (more info)
8.0 CAI (more info)
7.5 Front damper (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . )
7.0 UR crank pulley (more info)
6.5 Floor mats (more info)
6.0 Engine bay panels (more info . 1 . 2 . )
6.0 Rear seat arm rest (more info)
5.5 Subwoofer speaker (more info)
5.5 Ground effect panels (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
5.5 Rear deck (more info)
5.5 Center console armrest (more info)
5.0 Headliner (more info . 1 . 2 . )
4.5 XLR8 J-Pipe (incls removing misc brackets) (more info)
4.3 Shark Mouth grill (incl removed lower duct obstruction) (more info)
4.0 Reduced wiper fluid (use 1 pint at a time)
3.7 Rear seat insulation (more info)
3.7 Rear speakers (more info)
3.5 Engine cradle damper (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . )
3.5 Small airbags in front seats (see Warning #2 below) (more info)
3.5 Windshield washer reservoir (incl pint of water) (more info)
3.4 Glovebox delete (more info)
3.0 Megan pipe replacing oem 3rd cat (more info)
2.6 Cowl plastic panels (more info)
2.5 Glovebox plate (more info . 1 . 2 . )
2.5 Innovative engine mounts (more info)
2.4 Owner manual (more info)
2.0 Roof console (more info)
2.0 Grab handles (more info)
2.0 Removed 12V air pump (more info)
1.9 Rear diffuser plastic panel (more info . 1 . 2 . )
1.8 Hood insulation (more info . 1 . 2 . )
1.8 Exterior Roof Molding (more info . 1 . 2 . 3 . )
1.8 EGR Delete (more info)
1.5 Trunk damper (more info)
1.5 Splash guards for front brake rotors (more info)
1.4 Kick panels under front dash (more info)
1.4 Footrest (more info)
1.2 Xm radio receiver (more info)
1.2 Airbag brackets & radio antenna booster (more info)
1.2 Trunk panel over latch (more info)
1.0 Exhaust heat shield (more info)
1.0 Rear Door Hook Pin and Catch (more info . 1 . 2 . )
0.6 Plastic trim around tail pipes (more info)
0.5 Coin holder & sunglass holders
0.5 Xm antenna (more info)
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793.2 Lbs TOTAL





Warning #1: Parking brake is mandatory to pass state inspection in many states.
Warning #2: Tampering with oem airbags is illegal in many states. (more info . 1 . 2 . )
Warning #3: Use of aftermarket seats and/or seatbelts can cause injury or death.
Warning #4: Removal of Evap will cause CEL and will fail state inspection.






ESTIMATED DYNAMIC WEIGHT REDUCTION (more info)
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701 Static weight loss (minus Dynamic items)
120 Dynamic weight loss from rims
105 Dynamic weight loss from UR Pulley (more info)
66 Dynamic weight loss from lightweight tires
60 Dynamic weight loss from shaved tires (2/32" thread depth remaining)
20 RacingBrake two-piece rotors
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1072 Lbs DYNAMIC TOTAL REDUCTION






-------- The TL Diet: Woo Hoo, What a Ride !!! --------

vill0169

iTrader: (4)

single most epic update ever? lol Nice work Tim!

callahan

Best update ever! Your post are always so well organized, I really appreciate you spending all this time to post all this info for us!

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

^

So what other things do you think youre going to tinker with to get the weight down further? Maybe lexan for the rear glass?

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

Tim this update is awesome !!!

when you said you are gonna post links I thought it would be just like the email you send me.....but this is way better....amazing....love the amount of time you put into the updates....makes our (your followers) lives easier

BostonSilverTypeS

as always amazing work with the updates and links!!! no one should ever wonder what and how to go about reducing some weight!!! you my friend are a true Pioneer and am glad you are on the TL community team!!! Now if only I could get a second luxury ride so I can strip mine down to get to your status a bit..lol!!!

callahan

So I got bored today and stripped my car, then went on a little test drive and OMG it feels amazing. Can't wait to go on a longer drive to c how it really feels, now all I need is rims and racing seats and I'll be set. Thanks inaccurate for helpful links and info on everything.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ what all did you remove ?

callahan

Pretty much everything but my front speaker, radio, front door panels and ebrake. Everything else is gone panels carpet etc. I plan on deleting the ebrake next weekend when I install my coils (if I get them in the mail by then). My car sits so much higher in the rear, and my front sits a little higher. When I delete my ac I'm sure it'll jump my front up.

Inaccurate

What have I been saying since January 2007

Oh, I remember...........

-------- The TL Diet: Woo Hoo, What a Ride !!! --------

I recommend driving it in rush hour traffic. This will allow the Diet to prove itself even more !

Thanks for taking the plunge and giving us your feedback. I do appreciate the confirmation of the Diet's potential.

phee

iTrader: (5)

nice job. that sounds just like my hatch..

callahan

Im ready to start on the ucm now!

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ callahan....that is awesome....i felt a difference with loosing ~200 lbs....if you lost more than that and took her for a ride, it would just be an awesome feeling....

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Wow, so tempting, if the TL is ever my 2nd car, rather than my daily and the car I'll probably tow my future babies to daycare in...I'll do the same. I noticed a difference just removing the sub box and amps for a bit...but I missed my music.

Innac...I bet you wish you could go back in time and feel the difference of driving your car stock, snapping your fingers and having it where it stands now. It would be so much more rewarding than the 20 pounds at a time you're at now.

callahan

I went on a ride this morning it was awesome! I should be getting my aasco flywheel in the mail tomorrow save some real weight whoot!

FCVadi

iTrader: (3)

Rock, I am thinking the same thing! might buy my wife another car and take her MDX as the future baby mobile

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

but i just enjoy driving this car so much I'd be very sad if I had to leave my infants at the grocery store because I was annoyed with how much weight their baby seats and their little 15 pound bodies were adding to my car and ruining my driving experience.

That'll be the day, when inaccurate adds to his list
-135 lbs removed wife via divorce
-72 lbs removed children via divorce
-.001 lb removed cash from wallet to pay for alimony and child support...

Inaccurate

So, after five years, people are just now figuring out what I have been talking about all of these years.....

But, at least finally the Diet is catching on. It is great seeing others extol the virtues of the Diet.

I bet that you are kicking yourself for not enjoying it sooner.

My car is so radical at this stage, especially with the coilovers set to full stiff, that I REALLY have to be careful when I drive any other car. When driving another car, I forget that it is not capable of stuff that my car can easily and effortlessly do. So, I can accidentally overdrive (ask too much from) another car if I am not careful to constantly remind myself that this ain't my car. When driving another car, I must remember things like not to yank on the steering to effortlessly change lanes, not to toss it into a corner without slowing down, not to wait to the last second to apply brakes.

Seriously, it can get scary and dangerous when switching cars too quickly. Many times, I get home after driving my car and then within minutes, I am driving the wife's 2003 Acura RL so that we can go out to eat. The stark difference in performance becomes apparent after I unconscientiously try driving her car like I would drive mine. "Oh shit...." pucker time and remind myself "you ain't in your car anymore!"

brian6speed

iTrader: (5)

Do you get as many people looking at you like you are crazy and laughing at you like I do with gutted interior?

And everyone asks the same question " Did you do that to make the car faster?" followed by the you are crazy look. Don't think I ever get anything but negative comments.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ Tim, i agree with Jer....go to the dealership and take a test drive of a 06 Base TL 5AT....i bet you will chuckle the entire drive....

@Jer....buddy its about removing unwanted/unused weight....Tim is a pioneer and he has done a lot and sacrificed a lot.....if you are not willing to sacrifice as much, you can just empty out the trunk, run racing seats upfront, braille battery, front and rear bumper....i mean just little things will easily save you ~200-250 lbs and you wont even notice that you lost all that weight.....

FCVadi

iTrader: (3)

by the way, anyone found a good steering wheel to recude that weight? I realize I never use my steering wheel controls anymore so was going to get rid of it for something lighter.. only draw back is the airbag... hmm.. stupid airbag

JCrimson

excellent work here! I approve!!

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

THIS !!!

am looking into a NRG steering wheel....I emailed Rex (villo) back to see if i would need a short hub or a quick release accessory to go with it....he did reply....am looking to order a lot of stuff once my new CC comes in next week

Inaccurate

Once the oem airbag is removed from it, the oem steering wheel seems to be fairly lightweight. I have never taken the wheel off, but just looking at it in a naked state and turning it, it does seem light. I would further venture to say that once a person adds that adapter hub required by the aftermarket wheel, the aftermarket wheel would *not* be any lighter than the oem (with airbag removed).

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ you just saved me some $$$ baby !!!

if the weight difference is like 10-12lbs, i would go aftermarket but if its barely 2-3 lbs, i would rather stay stock....

am thinking of removing all the volume/cruise control/air bag off it and put the wheel back on....

3gstealth

iTrader: (2)

The OEM steering wheel w/o air bag is very light. I would say no more than 3-4 lbs, if that... I took mine off not too long ago to replace it with an a-spec one. Come to think of it, I should have weighed both of them, shame on me.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ damn THAT light ???

me and the wifey are house hunting so all of the weekend goes in going around and looking at houses....havent done anything in the past 2-3 weekends !!!

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

^Booooo!

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ you want my balls sitting on your driveway ???

i thought so....

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Well, thats weight reduction of another kind

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Duly noted, sir...I'm sure there are a lot of things I could remove, I have a fear of getting stranded with no spare or jack or anything. I guess if I ever get serious with weight loss, I'd probably start by removing the 100 lbs worth of sound system I got going on and the heavier than oem 19" wheels...

When I removed it for doing some modification I noticed the difference in just that...so I can only imagine. But the bare bones looks will probably not ever be for me. I wouldn't mind doing a weight reduction on a dedicated, "fun" car though.

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ Jer....totally agreed....when Inaccurate says this is not for everyone he actually means it.....

Again Inaccurate who is a true pioneer has taken the weight loss to a whole new level and he sacrifices on many counts.....when i look at my thread, i am more like ohh i dont wanna get rid of my stock sounds system....whereas this morning while driving to work i turned the radio off coz it was "annoying" as it was not letting me hear my exhaust.....this kinda indicated how "addicting" this weight loss can be.....

I only wanted to lose around 300lbs but am pretty close to (will be) around 450-500lbs lost by the next few weeks....but I will not have sacrificed anything....i will still have my sound system, sun roof (love to tilted it open), air bags, etc....

my 2 cents to you is, if you dont feel it is for you, dont do it....its not worth kicking yourself in the head everytime you sit in your car....on the other hand, if you feel you can go for it, DO IT....you wont regret it !!!



dude that cracked me UUUPPPPPP !!!!! great great answer/comeback....

rooster415

well here i am guys 9 months into the first day i purchased this car and learned stick on this car.. for people who don't know.

2004 base nbp manual tl. rv6 v3 pcds/rv6 jpipe/ custom exhaust/p2r throttle body spacer/fujita cai

after speaking with SWOOSH and reading all the threads about the DIET. i have decided to do it. after talking to my wife about it all the no don't mess up the car! don't remove the seats don't remove the trunk. i got confirmation ! the last time i drove someone in the back seats were 4 months ago. her first question is why do this to a luxury car. my response its a luxury SPORTS SEDAN <--- LOL and i told her from the get go im going to be driving this car until it dies. i want to enjoy this car

so starting this Sunday. i will be removing all trunk components. all rear seats speakers door panels.trim panels.rear trunk lid all trunk liners. so it wont be as hard core as innacurate but i will remove WHATEVER i can that doesn't effect the front seats. so will be reading over and over innacurates thread

if i find out how to post pics on here i will definitely do it.

rooster415

i just removed around probably 80-95 pounds in my sound system saturday. sold it to my friend. 35lb amp and i would probably say the sub was roughly 45-50 lbs with the box. going to be removing the rear speakers.and utilizing the stock sub woofer space and maybe get a small jl/kicker sub

Inaccurate

Wow. Jaw dropping. Another dieter.....

I am speechless. Dieters are popping out of the woodwork.

All I can say is....


WHOOP !!!


Welcome aboard rooster. I am looking forward to helping and seeing your progress.

If you wish, I can post your pics for you. I will send (PM) you my email

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Rooster likes going by a different name...if you know what I mean.

LOL...nicely done, sir...sounds like I'd lose about the same weight if I got rid of my sound system, but honestly, I THOROUGHLY enjoy mine on almost a daily basis...I'd lose 100 that I added to the car, plus an addition 10 pounds for the heavier wheels (2.5 lbs each over the aspecs). Maybe down the line I'll give this a go...but I doubt it...I'm driving like an old lady since my ticket...and have been getting 26 mpg lately...

swoosh

iTrader: (5)

^^^ you can get 30mpg with the diet LOL

Rooster....glad you listened bro....will call you later tonight, my work sucked me in last night while we were talking

FCVadi

iTrader: (3)

so thought I would share this, not sure if some of you guys already looked into it

it was based off of mindless thought and this site

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/l...ndows_install/

I actually looked around locally and also online but the one place that use to do it is now closed/owned (Percy) by new ownership.. they might pick it up again, who knows

the other one is in the article, Pro Glass, and when I reached out to them they said they can make any window but just need originals to work from... I havent followed up on it yet.. still hoping for someplace local.. or within a couple of hours

but thought I would share for the folks who havent known about this