M-010: Putting the TL on a diet (Update Links in Post #1)
#721
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My pictures taken in 1987 (approximately)
#724
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To the best that I could tell, lexan is legal for street use in Texas. However, I would think that the windshield needs to remain oem to be legal.
The lexan (polycarbonate) is a low priority mod for me at this point in time. I have estimated the weight savings for the lexan to be approximately 40 pounds. This is for the two rear door windows and regulators (window motors), and the rear window.
It won't be until perhaps the winter of 2011 before I do the lexan windows. This winter is reserved for working on my new project, nitrous/methanol injection. And right now, I am staying out of the garage.... too hot
The lexan (polycarbonate) is a low priority mod for me at this point in time. I have estimated the weight savings for the lexan to be approximately 40 pounds. This is for the two rear door windows and regulators (window motors), and the rear window.
It won't be until perhaps the winter of 2011 before I do the lexan windows. This winter is reserved for working on my new project, nitrous/methanol injection. And right now, I am staying out of the garage.... too hot
#730
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#731
Safety Car
Thread Starter
UPDATE
I GOT ANOTHER 24 POUNDS OFF OF THE CAR !!!!!
:gheywave::gheywave:
Weight Reduction Since Last Update
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24.0 Interior Carpet
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24.0 lbs NET TOTAL REMOVED
Thanks for allowing me to share my TL Diet with you !!!
"I'll be back"... to terminate more weight !!!
ITEMIZED LIST OF WEIGHT REDUCTION
-----------------------------------------------------
84.0 Racing Seats and racing restraint system (see Warning #3 below)
44.0 Reduced fuel (buy just 3.0 gallons at a time)
40.0 Rims
36.0 Rear seat delete
34.0 Spare tire (use lightweight 12V air pump)
31.0 Sunroof delete
31.0 Interior trim & misc pieces
27.5 Braille battery
24.0 Interior Carpet
23.0 Trunk panels
22.0 Lightweight tires
18.0 Front door interior panels
17.5 Parking brake and lever (see Warning #1 below)
17.0 Front bumper
16.0 Rear bumper
14.0 Rear door interior panels
14.0 RV6 Precat delete (incl race pipe & misc brackets)
13.0 Radio delete
13.0 Personal weight loss (attributed to this project)
12.0 Center Console
10.0 Front seat kick panels
9.0 Side curtain airbags (see Warning #2 below)
8.5 Mid muffler delete
8.5 Seatbelts for rear seat
8.0 CAI
7.5 Front damper
7.0 UR Crank pulley
6.5 Floor mats (incls driver's too)
6.0 Engine bay panels
6.0 Rear seat arm rest
5.5 Subwoofer speaker
5.5 Ground effect panels
5.5 Rear deck
5.5 Center console armrest
5.0 Headliner
4.5 XLR8 J-Pipe (incls removing misc brackets)
4.3 Shark Mouth grill (incl removed lower duct obstruction)
4.0 Reduced wiper fluid (use 1 pint at a time)
3.7 Rear seat insulation
3.7 Rear speakers
3.5 Engine cradle damper
3.5 Small airbags in front seats (see Warning #2 below)
3.5 Windshield washer reservoir (incl pint of water)
3.4 Glovebox delete
3.0 Megan pipe replacing oem 3rd cat
2.6 Cowl plastic panels
2.5 Glovebox plate
2.5 Innovative Mounts (engine mounts)
2.4 Owner manual
2.0 Roof console
2.0 Grab handles
2.0 Removed 12V air pump
1.8 Hood insulation
1.5 Trunk damper
1.5 Splash guards for front brake rotors
1.4 Kick panels under front dash
1.4 Footrest
1.2 Xm radio reciever
1.2 Airbag brackets & radio antenna booster
1.2 Trunk panel over latch
1.0 Exhaust heat shield
1.0 Rear Door Hook Pin and Catch
0.5 Coin holder & sunglass holders
0.5 Xm antenna
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702 Lbs TOTAL
ESTIMATED WEIGHT
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3580 - 702 = 2878 Lbs. Static
3580 - 924 = 2656 Lbs. Dynamic
ESTIMATED DYNAMIC WEIGHT REDUCTION
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633 Static weight loss (minus Dynamic items)
120 Dynamic weight loss from rims
105 Dynamic weight loss from UR Pulley
66 Dynamic weight loss from lightweight tires
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924 Lbs DYNAMIC TOTAL
ESTIMATED EQUIVALENT WHEEL HP WITH MODS
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337 WHP (equivalent output)
Note: Assuming mods produce 250 WHP
Mods (J32A3 w/5AT) = XLR8 j-pipe, RV6 precat delete, RV6 race pipe (3rd cat delete),
Custom insulated AEM CAI w/ oversized Dryflow filter, UR Pulley undersize,
Ultimate Cooling Mod, Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock Spacer, throttle body coolant bypass.
Warning #1: Parking brake is mandatory to pass state inspection in many states.
Warning #2: Tampering with oem airbags is illegal in many states.
Warning #3: Use of aftermarket seats and/or seatbelts can cause injury or death.
-------- The TL Diet: Woo Hoo, What a Ride !!! --------
I GOT ANOTHER 24 POUNDS OFF OF THE CAR !!!!!
:gheywave::gheywave:
Weight Reduction Since Last Update
-----------------------------------------------
24.0 Interior Carpet
--------------------------------------------
24.0 lbs NET TOTAL REMOVED
Originally Posted by csmeance (Moderator)
All members posting from this point on, read POST #1 before posting. Failure to do so may result in a ban!
Originally Posted by csmeance (Moderator)
To be honest, I'd take 5 minutes to have someone banned at this point with all the garbage and trash talk that I deleted in this thread, than clean it up time after time and have it keep on coming back; no more!
Thanks for allowing me to share my TL Diet with you !!!
"I'll be back"... to terminate more weight !!!
ITEMIZED LIST OF WEIGHT REDUCTION
-----------------------------------------------------
84.0 Racing Seats and racing restraint system (see Warning #3 below)
44.0 Reduced fuel (buy just 3.0 gallons at a time)
40.0 Rims
36.0 Rear seat delete
34.0 Spare tire (use lightweight 12V air pump)
31.0 Sunroof delete
31.0 Interior trim & misc pieces
27.5 Braille battery
24.0 Interior Carpet
23.0 Trunk panels
22.0 Lightweight tires
18.0 Front door interior panels
17.5 Parking brake and lever (see Warning #1 below)
17.0 Front bumper
16.0 Rear bumper
14.0 Rear door interior panels
14.0 RV6 Precat delete (incl race pipe & misc brackets)
13.0 Radio delete
13.0 Personal weight loss (attributed to this project)
12.0 Center Console
10.0 Front seat kick panels
9.0 Side curtain airbags (see Warning #2 below)
8.5 Mid muffler delete
8.5 Seatbelts for rear seat
8.0 CAI
7.5 Front damper
7.0 UR Crank pulley
6.5 Floor mats (incls driver's too)
6.0 Engine bay panels
6.0 Rear seat arm rest
5.5 Subwoofer speaker
5.5 Ground effect panels
5.5 Rear deck
5.5 Center console armrest
5.0 Headliner
4.5 XLR8 J-Pipe (incls removing misc brackets)
4.3 Shark Mouth grill (incl removed lower duct obstruction)
4.0 Reduced wiper fluid (use 1 pint at a time)
3.7 Rear seat insulation
3.7 Rear speakers
3.5 Engine cradle damper
3.5 Small airbags in front seats (see Warning #2 below)
3.5 Windshield washer reservoir (incl pint of water)
3.4 Glovebox delete
3.0 Megan pipe replacing oem 3rd cat
2.6 Cowl plastic panels
2.5 Glovebox plate
2.5 Innovative Mounts (engine mounts)
2.4 Owner manual
2.0 Roof console
2.0 Grab handles
2.0 Removed 12V air pump
1.8 Hood insulation
1.5 Trunk damper
1.5 Splash guards for front brake rotors
1.4 Kick panels under front dash
1.4 Footrest
1.2 Xm radio reciever
1.2 Airbag brackets & radio antenna booster
1.2 Trunk panel over latch
1.0 Exhaust heat shield
1.0 Rear Door Hook Pin and Catch
0.5 Coin holder & sunglass holders
0.5 Xm antenna
------------------------------------------------------------
702 Lbs TOTAL
ESTIMATED WEIGHT
------------------------------------
3580 - 702 = 2878 Lbs. Static
3580 - 924 = 2656 Lbs. Dynamic
ESTIMATED DYNAMIC WEIGHT REDUCTION
----------------------------------------------
633 Static weight loss (minus Dynamic items)
120 Dynamic weight loss from rims
105 Dynamic weight loss from UR Pulley
66 Dynamic weight loss from lightweight tires
---------------------------------------------
924 Lbs DYNAMIC TOTAL
ESTIMATED EQUIVALENT WHEEL HP WITH MODS
------------------------------------------
337 WHP (equivalent output)
Note: Assuming mods produce 250 WHP
Mods (J32A3 w/5AT) = XLR8 j-pipe, RV6 precat delete, RV6 race pipe (3rd cat delete),
Custom insulated AEM CAI w/ oversized Dryflow filter, UR Pulley undersize,
Ultimate Cooling Mod, Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock Spacer, throttle body coolant bypass.
Warning #1: Parking brake is mandatory to pass state inspection in many states.
Warning #2: Tampering with oem airbags is illegal in many states.
Warning #3: Use of aftermarket seats and/or seatbelts can cause injury or death.
-------- The TL Diet: Woo Hoo, What a Ride !!! --------
#732
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Damn Inacc.. you were on the bottle?
It looks like suspension & rotors is all that's left.. unless you find a gas tank to swap out the old one with. I think there are some small cell tanks that might work.
It looks like suspension & rotors is all that's left.. unless you find a gas tank to swap out the old one with. I think there are some small cell tanks that might work.
#735
All motor
I can't believe how much weight you have taken off the TL. That thing must UHAUL.
Do you have any plans on doing on exhaust? That would free up alot of power since you are bottlenecking with the factory piping. Trust me, you can make it quiet with an aftermarket exhaust. Throw on a Magnaflow 12640 (2.5") or 12641 (3") and it will really quiet it down to the point of 0 rasp and almost no highway drone.
Do you have any plans on doing on exhaust? That would free up alot of power since you are bottlenecking with the factory piping. Trust me, you can make it quiet with an aftermarket exhaust. Throw on a Magnaflow 12640 (2.5") or 12641 (3") and it will really quiet it down to the point of 0 rasp and almost no highway drone.
#736
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#738
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#739
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I have never had nitrous on my TL. However, a custom nitrous methanol system is in the process of being installed in the upcoming months. It will probably be during the winter when it gets finished because the weather is too hot now to do much work on the car.
I thought it would be amusing to use the new bottles as a scale reference for the photos.
I am surprised that I didn't remove it sooner. Originally, I thought that the carpet didn't weigh that much. However, I needed to find something to remove to compensate for the weight that I will be adding with the nitrous methanol system that am installing in the upcoming months.
Once I got the carpet out and weighed it, I was surprised that it weighed that much. The carpet removal will go a long ways to paying for the nitrous methanol system, weight wise.
I thought it would be amusing to use the new bottles as a scale reference for the photos.
Once I got the carpet out and weighed it, I was surprised that it weighed that much. The carpet removal will go a long ways to paying for the nitrous methanol system, weight wise.
#742
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Since he took out all the speakers and amp.. I'm going to guess..
#746
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I can't believe how much weight you have taken off the TL. That thing must UHAUL.
Do you have any plans on doing on exhaust? That would free up alot of power since you are bottlenecking with the factory piping. Trust me, you can make it quiet with an aftermarket exhaust. Throw on a Magnaflow 12640 (2.5") or 12641 (3") and it will really quiet it down to the point of 0 rasp and almost no highway drone.
Do you have any plans on doing on exhaust? That would free up alot of power since you are bottlenecking with the factory piping. Trust me, you can make it quiet with an aftermarket exhaust. Throw on a Magnaflow 12640 (2.5") or 12641 (3") and it will really quiet it down to the point of 0 rasp and almost no highway drone.
also inaccurate, you should cut out the interior section of the doors, then put like a nice piece of CF over it to make it look nice and such (and covering any possible sharp edges in the process too)(and you would mount the interior door handles to the cf panel)
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LOL 2003? most kids on this board can't handle a car that old. If it's over 100k it's toast. When you buy a car people it's a huge waste of money. You might as well keep it and do what you want. I will let the beer wear off.
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#751
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I remember when I had my first beer
#752
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From csmeance (Moderator) - To be honest, I'd take 5 minutes to have someone banned at this point with all the garbage and trash talk that I deleted in this thread, than clean it up time after time and have it keep on coming back; no more!
#753
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hey inaccurate i know how you can save some more weight also...., but depends on how functional you still want your rear doors though
but basically replace the rear doors hinges with some angle aluminum, just cut a couple little sections, drill some holes, and mount with the stock bolts (you might actually have to get a couple of bolts though, since iirc the 3rd gen uses studs on the inner part of the hinge though )
then for the latch part, just make a couple of spacers, so when you put the bolts through the door itself into where the old striker plate bolted, it does not crush, and deform the sheetmetal (couple of washers should do, if you are lazy)
but basically replace the rear doors hinges with some angle aluminum, just cut a couple little sections, drill some holes, and mount with the stock bolts (you might actually have to get a couple of bolts though, since iirc the 3rd gen uses studs on the inner part of the hinge though )
then for the latch part, just make a couple of spacers, so when you put the bolts through the door itself into where the old striker plate bolted, it does not crush, and deform the sheetmetal (couple of washers should do, if you are lazy)
#757
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If I may, a couple of things that I noticed when I skimmed over you could still save on.
A lighter rear view mirror, the behemoth in our cars looks like it weighs at 3-4lbs more then a basic one.
A nice aftermarket wheel, like a Nardi Deep Corn or Momo Monte Carlo with a hub, you're looking at probably 10-14lbs of savings.
And finally, if you really aren't going back, get some dry ice and get rid of that sound deadening. You could be looking at up to 40lbs between in the interior and trunk. Thats really all I could think of off the top of my head. You're pretty damn close to that race TL's weight so I don't see much more being able to be removed.
A lighter rear view mirror, the behemoth in our cars looks like it weighs at 3-4lbs more then a basic one.
A nice aftermarket wheel, like a Nardi Deep Corn or Momo Monte Carlo with a hub, you're looking at probably 10-14lbs of savings.
And finally, if you really aren't going back, get some dry ice and get rid of that sound deadening. You could be looking at up to 40lbs between in the interior and trunk. Thats really all I could think of off the top of my head. You're pretty damn close to that race TL's weight so I don't see much more being able to be removed.
#760
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A couple of suggestions...
*Electric radiator fans.
*Attack the dashboard. Remove it completely and replace it with a simple 16 guage aluminum sheet or fab a simple 3-ply CF dash. This would be a nice project and would allow your creative juices to flow. Something like this...
*EGR Delete and Evap Canister Delete.
*Since you won't delete the A/C because it's mostly hot there, then take out the heater core. As far as the engine goes just loop the heater core in/out together in the engine bay. Removing this and the dash will get rid of alot of weight.
*Electric radiator fans.
*Attack the dashboard. Remove it completely and replace it with a simple 16 guage aluminum sheet or fab a simple 3-ply CF dash. This would be a nice project and would allow your creative juices to flow. Something like this...
*EGR Delete and Evap Canister Delete.
*Since you won't delete the A/C because it's mostly hot there, then take out the heater core. As far as the engine goes just loop the heater core in/out together in the engine bay. Removing this and the dash will get rid of alot of weight.