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Old 04-23-2008, 09:23 PM
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Hey everyone just so yall know I met up with blackura and illstrategy at local dyno place

Dyno results (3rd gear pulls)
Stillhere153 with procats = 270whp 220lbs tq (75 degrees f... 35% humidity)

Blackura_ny with mike's jpipe = 273whp 220lbs tq (slightly colder temps)

I will have a dyno sheet up in the AM

Mike's jpipe = no need for procats... I will be installing mike's jpipe once I get it to finally cancel the myth of n/a + procats + jpipe = loss of power
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Hey everyone just so yall know I met up with blackura and illstrategy at local dyno place

Dyno results (3rd gear pulls)
Stillhere153 with procats = 270whp 220lbs tq (75 degrees f... 35% humidity)

Blackura_ny with mike's jpipe = 273whp 220lbs tq (slightly colder temps)

I will have a dyno sheet up in the AM

Mike's jpipe = no need for procats... I will be installing mike's jpipe once I get it to finally cancel the myth of n/a + procats + jpipe = loss of power

Make sure to have the graphs up to compare the whole power bands with and with out the jpipe. Obviously at 6000 rpm your gonna have more power with pro-cats + jpipe then just jpipe, its the lower part of the power band I think that people are concerned with losing power.
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How much of a problem with the pipe touching like that cause if I leave it like that for say two months?
could lead to quicker thermal breakdown of your oil... change it more frequently

i wanna check out a stock tl-s... if the OEM j-pipe is touching the oil pan, i wont be worried anymore...
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Hey everyone just so yall know I met up with blackura and illstrategy at local dyno place

Dyno results (3rd gear pulls)
Stillhere153 with procats = 270whp 220lbs tq (75 degrees f... 35% humidity)

Blackura_ny with mike's jpipe = 273whp 220lbs tq (slightly colder temps)

I will have a dyno sheet up in the AM

Mike's jpipe = no need for procats... I will be installing mike's jpipe once I get it to finally cancel the myth of n/a + procats + jpipe = loss of power

WOW!!! you are putting down just as much power as I am with the SC

I have decided to have the place that installed the sc install the Jpipe because of the A/F sensor. Plus I can get it dynoed.

I might just go buy a black types so just so I can put down as much power and the rim choice (gold volks) would be easy.
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dont forget bent.. all dynos are different...

when stillhere dyno'ed elsewhere, he only made 249whp.... we used a Winiper DynoJet

plus, once you put that j-pipe on... i can imagine gains in excess of 20whp for you.... the s/c is going to LLOOVVEE that j-pipe
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Hey everyone just so yall know I met up with blackura and illstrategy at local dyno place

Dyno results (3rd gear pulls)
Stillhere153 with procats = 270whp 220lbs tq (75 degrees f... 35% humidity)

Blackura_ny with mike's jpipe = 273whp 220lbs tq (slightly colder temps)

I will have a dyno sheet up in the AM

Mike's jpipe = no need for procats... I will be installing mike's jpipe once I get it to finally cancel the myth of n/a + procats + jpipe = loss of power
dude, put the j-pipe on.. come back to speedworld, and pull that shit again. prove everybody wrong... i bet you'll make close to 280 on this dyno

i am gonna dyno again once i get some kind of test pipe... probably the ATLP
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
dont forget bent.. all dynos are different...

when stillhere dyno'ed elsewhere, he only made 249whp.... we used a Winiper DynoJet

plus, once you put that j-pipe on... i can imagine gains in excess of 20whp for you.... the s/c is going to LLOOVVEE that j-pipe

Yeah I know....

Hopefully I get over 300. If not there is always an nx wet kit even if it is a 25 nozzle
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
could lead to quicker thermal breakdown of your oil... change it more frequently

i wanna check out a stock tl-s... if the OEM j-pipe is touching the oil pan, i wont be worried anymore...
yeah i mean the pipe is barely touching at all. My only concern was the rubbing up against the oil pan. Still no pics up close of stock jpipe come on people.
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Just remember for you guys who'd like to heat wrap the jpipe if you don't have enough clearance the jpipe vibration will ea thru the heat wrapping if it is vibrating against the oil pan


Don't feel like shipping ur jpipe back to mike....? Block of wood and a hammer... Create a slight and nice indent on the area so as to cause a curve right on the area...

Oh and about the jpipe... Still waiting on mike to send me the google checkout invoice
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
Just remember for you guys who'd like to heat wrap the jpipe if you don't have enough clearance the jpipe vibration will ea thru the heat wrapping if it is vibrating against the oil pan


Don't feel like shipping ur jpipe back to mike....? Block of wood and a hammer... Create a slight and nice indent on the area so as to cause a curve right on the area...

Oh and about the jpipe... Still waiting on mike to send me the google checkout invoice
lol. i dont think i like the idea of taking a hammer to my precious new j-pipe

i'll see what happens tomorrow when i get it back on the lift
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Well it isn't a hammer it is a block of wood on the area where it is touching... You hit the wood with a hammer once... You will have a flat area created there which will give ample room for the oil pan clearance... And also it will not change the diameter of the inside such as a crush bend does
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yikes... will i get mine for this shipment ?!?!? so excited after Blackura mentioned "S/C Loves J-Pipe" Got new tires coming it =) hehehe fun summer time!!!
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Thumbs up modify the jpipe

Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
lol. i dont think i like the idea of taking a hammer to my precious new j-pipe

i'll see what happens tomorrow when i get it back on the lift
Yeah i wouldn't want to modify the jpipe to much myself if its going to mess up the product, not only that with the heat and the piping running against the oil pan isn't a good idea. spoke with a tech today said it can be a hazard... No worries mike will take care of you he's working on the clearance issue already...
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Originally Posted by bent09
WOW!!! you are putting down just as much power as I am with the SC
Don't forget that a base model 6spd TL is about 300 lbs lighter than an auto type-s. Power ain't everything; nice #s guys, just trying make us ancient TL members not get too jealous .
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Boooo don't cop a plea for him
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Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
Don't forget that a base model 6spd TL is about 300 lbs lighter than an auto type-s. Power ain't everything; nice #s guys, just trying make us ancient TL members not get too jealous .
Theres only a 115lb difference.
TL w/navi 6MT: 3559lb
TL-S w/navi 5AT: 3674lb
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No need for a hammer or wood.

Thanks to Ken for coming through on such an immediate request, we were able to verify that the following J-Pipe batches will now all clear the 2007 TL/TL-S.

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To the first 20, if you have a 2007 TL/TL-S please PM me for information so I can send you a replacement.

The rest who haven't received theirs shouldn't foresee any problems. I'll be shipping out the next 25 today.
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Mike, I haven't had time to check underneath the car again after I got home but it should be okay.

I want to thank Mike for his EXCELLENT customer service and his desire to correct the issue for current owners and future customers. I'm a very satisfied customer. He deserves all of our support and I hope his client base expands to many other vehicles.
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Originally Posted by KenTL

I want to thank Mike for his EXCELLENT customer service and his desire to correct the issue for current owners and future customers. I'm a very satisfied customer. He deserves all of our support and I hope his client base expands to many other vehicles.

+1

For a 21 year old, he's got his shit together. Im impressed! He's definitely got my business for future products.
*cough* base TL exhaust *cough*
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So Mike when are you going to send out the last 15? next week?
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good stuff

Originally Posted by KenTL
Mike, I haven't had time to check underneath the car again after I got home but it should be okay.

I want to thank Mike for his EXCELLENT customer service and his desire to correct the issue for current owners and future customers. I'm a very satisfied customer. He deserves all of our support and I hope his client base expands to many other vehicles.
i hope your major is business mike =) Mike stay's on top of his products and he yell's at those RSB guys for us too haha
so what did you have to do to adjust the issue bend the piping more?
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Originally Posted by juruki
Theres only a 115lb difference.
TL w/navi 6MT: 3559lb
TL-S w/navi 5AT: 3674lb
Base TL 6MT without Nav is only 3482. That 192 lb. weight advantage is why the Base 6MT is as quick as the Type-S 5AT, stock for stock. It totally negates the ~15 WHP advantage the S-5AT has.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Base TL 6MT without Nav is only 3482. That 192 lb. weight advantage is why the Base 6MT is as quick as the Type-S 5AT, stock for stock. It totally negates the ~15 WHP advantage the S-5AT has.
Wow Navi weighs 77 lbs!
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Can someone tell me if the clearence problem is in the 07 TL/TL-S

Those with 04 to 06 are fine right.
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04-06 is fine. Its only the 07/08 Type-S with the issue that Mike has already corrected
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
04-06 is fine. Its only the 07/08 Type-S with the issue that Mike has already corrected
Thanks.
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Yep it was only on the 07's and up, but those have been corrected now as well.
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Originally Posted by aznbo187
Yep it was only on the 07's and up, but those have been corrected now as well.
Thank you Mike. I can't wait to get it install.

ATLP FTW.
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Wow Navi weighs 77 lbs!
There's no way.

Got my tracking# today. Thanks, Mike! It'll probably take a week to get here, but I'm busy anyway.
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Mike,


did you send out all the tracking numbers for the next batch? Also, mentioned this earlier to you but can you send via UPS to Canada....much easier for me.

thanks
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you guys are gonna be thrilled when you get this pipe. what an excellent mod... great gains, slight sound alteration.... great product
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
you guys are gonna be thrilled when you get this pipe. what an excellent mod... great gains, slight sound alteration.... great product

Yeah the low end torque WOW, today i was just loving it cruising at like 1500 rpm no problems, stomp on gas , car loves it
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i got my tracking number!!! beat that al lol jk bro
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Mike, can I put a deposit for the next batch or do I need to pay it all upfront??
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did you send out all the tracking numbers for the next batch? Also, mentioned this earlier to you but can you send via UPS to Canada....much easier for me.

thanks
I have. The remainder of the shipments should be ready fairly soon too. We're almost there!

Mike, can I put a deposit for the next batch or do I need to pay it all upfront??
I can take deposits or the full payment. It's up to you. Just shoot me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll send you a deposit slip.
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i got my tracking number!!! beat that al lol jk bro
I got mine too...
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I got mine too...

Me 2, were on a roll mike
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Mine is supposed to be delivered on Wednesday, I can't wait. I'm doing the RSB today and the pulley on Tuesday. I have to wait until the ATLP test pipe comes out, then I'll be ready to dyno. Thanks Mike, keep up the excellent work.


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