dwboston

The Giants gave up 38 to the Pats at home. The Pats scored on 7 of 9 possessions and the vaunted NYG pass rush got exactly one sack on Brady with the Pats missing 2 starting offensive linemen and Kyle Brady. And BTW, the Pats destroyed Dallas at Dallas. Eli is going to see some of the same defensive looks that used to confuse his brother twice a year.

38-17 New England.

SpicyMikey

I don't give predictions. I jinx the Giants when I do that. We had serious injuries too for that game. More then you. Both FS and SS were out. Starting right corner (Sam Madison) was hurt during the game (one play before Moss' one and only big play of the game. Our Pro Bowl TE (Shockey) had just gone out teh week before with a broken leg. Replacement was a rookie but he has since stepped up and is turning into a phenom. The "lightning" in our Thunder and Lightning running game was out (Amad Bradshaw) and we only had Brandon Jacobs in the back field.

Both teams are going to have a different look tomorrow, plus, it's not easy to beat a team twice in 4 weeks. Don't be too confident Dan..

Good Luck tomorrow!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.......

dwboston

Pretty selective memory when it comes to injuries and Moss' big plays. You may have forgotten the other TD he had that game. And missing Sam Madison was the reason that Moss scored? Sam Madison? The Pats have a pretty good record in second meetings against teams and even better with 2 weeks to prepare. Bradshaw was pretty much an afterthought earlier in the season - all of the sudden he's the 2nd coming of Barry Sanders. If this team wasn't from NY, then no one would be picking them. The media are falling all over themselves to pick the NYG because "they're on a roll." Never thought I'd see the day when a 10-6 team from a weak conference would be favored by anyone over an 18-0 team. Just shows the blind spot that the sports media has for anything from NY.

The Giants are going to find out (again) that the Pats aren't the Cowboys or the Packers. They're pretty cocky for a team that made the Super Bowl by virtue of a gift INT from Brett Favre. The Giants played (for them) a perfect game in week 17, at home, and still lost. On a neutral field, against the best offense in the NFL, I don't see them winning. They gave up 38 points to this team a month ago. The NYG defense hasn't exactly morphed into the 86 Bears since then. I don't see Eli and a hobbled Burress outscoring the Pats either. Get ready for the "Eli Manning Face" after he throws 2 or 3 picks tomorrow.

Mike_TX

Okay, then ...

So does the Chicago show start Monday? Is anyone here going, and if so, take your camera!

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dwboston

Slow day at Club Lexus?

SpicyMikey

Yea, probably not the place to start talking football. Sorry I brought it up

Meet you guys at the football forums!

Mike_TX

Nope, things are hopping there. LOL. But I'm interested in the "new" RL just like you guys are. Heck, who knows - it may be my next car!

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SupaRookie

Cant wait for new pictures of the car. I hope it will bring the RL to a new level.

TampaRLX-SH

It looks like the web cams for the Chicago Auto Show have been disabled for live feed. I only see still shots now, 2 days old.

I assume they are rolling in the car models now.

I wonder if they pay those roadies enough as to not have any photos leaked!

Trackruner228

iTrader: (1)

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4405

alright its coming right of acuras mouth now (not that we didnt really already know). Hopefully this car will bring more interest to Acura.

ssim3

Imperfect

SpicyMikey

I still can't talk after all the screaming I did last night. Pat's played a tough game. I'm wiped out

I hope Acura doesn't pull a stupid move with the RL this week and disappoint me. I want to be able to keep this smile on my face a while longer. Can't wait for the photos. I wish one would leak already!

SPUDMTN

Wednesday, February 6, 2008

10:00 AM, Central Time

I cannot wait. Interesting to see that they're the second debut, right after General Motors.

This better be good.

dwboston

S--t happens. Three Super Bowls and still the best QB and coach in the game. They'll be back, hopefully with a new O-line. Giants deserved to win - Pats got outplayed on both lines.

dwboston

It seems like folks are really expecting a lot out of a MMC. Short of an amazing design coup, based on the specs leaked already it doesn't seem radically different than the current car. Either way it's going to take a huge marketing effort to get the car noticed.

Saw the Hyundai Genesis ads last night - that is a sharp looking car, derivative or not. If the build quality and materials quality is there, they may give Honda and Toyota a run for their $.

black label

IMO
That tied the Yankees (losing ALCS after being up 3-0) for the biggest choke in sports history.

Not taking anything away from the Giants, they just wanted it more.

elessar

Quiet in here... too quiet.



Is it tomorrow yet??

dwboston

After doing a little more digging, it appears that there will not be an AWD version of the Genesis. When the concept debuted there was talk from the Hyundai executives of an AWD version for North America, but since then they have apparently decided that there isn't enough demand for an AWD model.

elessar

Yup... I posted the same thing in the Genesis thread in the Automotive News forum. I guess my next car will definitely be an Acura, then!

SpicyMikey

Wanna talk football?

TampaRLX-SH

I would now like to take this opportunity....ad introduce you all to ........


AMWAY!

Mike_TX

Not a bad-looking car!





Available 375hp V-8, heated and cooled seats, nav, BT, parking sensors, articulating xenons, intelligent cruise, power tilt and telescoping heated steering wheel, you name it, and all for less than $40k. Wow.

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lindros2

... and although it looks like a big G35 from the side, kind of like an RL from the front (3/4 headlight view), and old Infiniti I35+current BMW 5-series from the rear, it all kind of comes together.

Those Koreans sure can steal (plagiarize) design cues, can't they?

At least it's not the Kia that looks like a bad Jaguar and drives like a 1980s Buick...

SpicyMikey

The price definitely is what gets your attention. However, I'll reserve being amazed until I can touch and feel it. Could be somewhat of an illusion. Once you sit in it and drive it, it may not be as impressive. I don't know that for sure. I'm just saying.

neuronbob

Things must be really slow at the TOV as they accidentally recycled a picture that originated on THEIR forum back in December.

A glimpse at the '09 RL refresh



That Hyundai looks good! 375 hp V8, huh?

kssod

So is 09 a mmc, and 10 a total redo or what?

SpicyMikey

Yes

Chas2

I was never sure if it was a 10 FMC or an 11 FMC available in 10. Does anyone know? That would give the 09 MMC some legs, that is at least two production runs, after all the apparent effort.

SpicyMikey

I'm not sure that was ever clarified. in fact, I'm not sure the FMC in '10 was ever officially stated. It might still fall into the category of a rumor.

Personally, I've been assuming it meant module year 11 in calendar year 2010. Only because it makes more sense.

black label

Football's over SpicyMikey, you have a champion, and with this being a leap year and all you get 1 extra day to enjoy it.

How 'bout Hockey, then the Canadians can trash talk too

It's 6:30PM eastern time, if the RL debuts at 10AM tomorrow, we only have 16.5 hrs to go

SpicyMikey

This is ridiculous. I sort of feel like an idiot anticipating this RL debut like a little kid on Christmas. Why am I so into this refresh?

You're right about the football. But I just can't let it go yet. I find myself watching Sportscenter at every chance. I don't know why I bother, they just keep showing that helmet catch by David Tyree over and over. I'm a Giants fan, and that was a great catch that will go down as a top ten SB play, but enough already. I think they should use that footage for a super glue commercial

black label

^^^
But at least your willing to admit you have a problem, that's the first step to recovery (of your money by Acura).

TSX69

I am kinda dreading tomorrow as a lot of people really seem to have their hopes up but since it is just a MMC, I fear there are gonna be a lot of let down people on the net. The last Accord refresh w/ the LEDs was pretty extensive & it did improve the looks IMHO but it was not enough to really increase sales or draw any more interest. I predict tomorrow may add some flash but very little substance, therefore, nothing will change until 2010(?).

Rob144

I've never followed a model makeover with such interest. A testament to the quality of this forum, I must say. And the fact my '06 RL is the first new car I've bought for myself.

I want to like the car for the sake of Acura. And I'm kind of apprehensive for the sake of my wallet. There'll be a lot to pick apart, and a lot to like I'm sure.

Between the new TL, the new TSX, and this RL, Acura should have a lineup to crow about.

Go Acura!

Rob144

White92

The stage is set for tomorrow. Don't let us down Acura. We're all watching.

cai06

lots of anticipation.. feel almost like Christmas Eve... LOL!

The current gen RL is almost perfect IMHO (size, value, ergonomics, etc..), cant imagine how much better it can get. I hope they put a Memory Card reader in the audio system like in the new CR-V.

Mike_TX

Almost impossible to believe Honda won't ride the MMC for at least two production years, so don't look for a FMC until the 2011 model (debuting in the Fall of 2010). They simply have to amortize their tooling costs over at least a two-year run.

The area where Acura can really shine is in the technology arena, where they scored big with the current-gen RL. And since Colliver is hinting at new strides in the tech department, we techies should be happy when the curtain goes up tomorrow.

But please, God, don't let them mimic the Accord rear-end treatment on the RL. The back end of the new Accord is just soooo frumpy-dumpy looking, like something made of wax that got a little too warm and sagged in the middle. Ditto for the overly-busy front end, with too many dischordant shapes all competing with each other.

I saw a comment from a reader in one of the car rags that compared the Accord to a turducken (you know - that dish where a chicken is stuffed into a duck, which is then stuffed into a turkey and the whole thing cooked). The point being that the Accord is a mixture of different styling elements, and they just don't go together.

So - please, Acura .... no turducken RL. Please.

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neuronbob

^^+1



I am also surprised I am following this with such interest. I'm supposed to be drooling over the CTS-V, after all. I just want the RL to be a winner at long last.

static808

I second that neuronbob. I want this MMC RL to be a WOW, what a ride.

lets hope.

Touge

I think we are all watching for this. I can't wait also.