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Old 01-16-2019, 06:50 AM
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I'm confused. Don't they already support Qi charging?
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yes but not though a case
Old 01-16-2019, 10:00 AM
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The new cases can charge itself and the attached iPhone wirelessly. It can also be charged with a lightning cable.

The iPhone 6 & 7 smart battery case could only be charged with a lightning cable.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Wireless charging support
And lower battery capacity.

Apple probably uses NXP Semi's NXQ1TXL5 Qi wireless transmitter chip (Apple uses NXP chips in prior battery case)

It costs $1.40 in bulk (6,000) - https://www.nxp.com/part/NXQ1TXL5

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Old 01-16-2019, 11:05 AM
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Nick Guy notes the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max cases each have 1,369 mAh battery capacities, making them the lowest-capacity Smart Battery Cases ever released. Apple's older battery cases for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 have capacities of 1,877 mAh and 2,365 mAh respectively.
Old 01-16-2019, 03:28 PM
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Fake news.

the batteries run at a different voltage and have 2 cells vs 1.

so the watt-hr is actually higher than previous cases.

As a result, the new cases run at a higher voltage that yields a total of 10.1 Wh of energy compared to 7.13 Wh for the iPhone 6/6s case and 8.98 Wh for the iPhone 7 case.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/16...rger-capacity/



for reference:
The iPhone XS comes with a 2658mAh/10.13Wh battery, while the XS Max has a capacity of 3174mAh/12.08Wh

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Old 01-17-2019, 08:17 AM
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There are a lot of add-on batteries that do what the Apple battery case does, even one that has Qi wireless.

They're all quite a bit cheaper, if you want to look for them on Amazon and eBay. :-)

I'm sure that the propagation of these devices is what led Apple to roll out their own.
Old 01-17-2019, 02:50 PM
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Even when my work had an awful slowdown period and I was on my XS Max 6 hours a day, using LTE and watching videos on it during working hours, I rarely dipped below 30% once my day was done.

I have rarely seen the smart charging cases (even on older phones), and I'm not surprised. If you're using a device with a 2+ year old battery, I can see it being necessary, but...
Old 01-17-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Even when my work had an awful slowdown period and I was on my XS Max 6 hours a day, using LTE and watching videos on it during working hours, I rarely dipped below 30% once my day was done.

I have rarely seen the smart charging cases (even on older phones), and I'm not surprised. If you're using a device with a 2+ year old battery, I can see it being necessary, but...
But at that point, it's cheaper to just replace the battery
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:04 AM
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I've watched a few reviews of the new battery case.

Even though I have no need for it whatsoever, I have to admit I'm tempted.

It's just so well designed and integrates so well with iOS....it's tempting. :-)
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Yeah, I really dont need it....But....You know
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Yeah, I really dont need it....But....You know
so when is yours going to be delivered?
Old 01-18-2019, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse


so when is yours going to be delivered?
When I get to the Apple store next week.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:22 PM
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Or today.
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Help me understand this. Let's say I set up the Two Factor authentication on my iPhone 8.

So I lost my phone. I get on a PC to log into Apple and iCloud to disable it.

How will this work because I will need my phone to authenticate my login?

Please educate.
Old 02-13-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cabanalane
Help me understand this. Let's say I set up the Two Factor authentication on my iPhone 8.

So I lost my phone. I get on a PC to log into Apple and iCloud to disable it.

How will this work because I will need my phone to authenticate my login?

Please educate.

There's a backup method, via email or something
Old 02-13-2019, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
There's a backup method, via email or something
They have sharks with lasers that scan your taint for thorough ID.
Old 02-13-2019, 01:50 PM
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Two Factor Authentication doesnt do that. 2FAuth will prompt with a code on a different Apple device for you to log in with generally a new device.

Find My Phone and iCloud does what you are talking about. You can remotely find and wipe an Apple device that has your iCloud info on it.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
They have sharks with lasers that scan your taint for thorough ID.
Oh Android has had that for years
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Do you think that Apple is making a mistake when it gives up on product lines like the Airport Extreme and Time Capsule?

It used to be part of the Jobs philosophy to control the access point and backup.
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Oh Android has had that for years

Well Apple's sharks are on a strict gluten-free diet
Old 02-14-2019, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
Do you think that Apple is making a mistake when it gives up on product lines like the Airport Extreme and Time Capsule?

It used to be part of the Jobs philosophy to control the access point and backup.
Maybe. Mesh is great now but some think 5G will eventually replace traditional home wifi networks and each device will get data into it. Who knows.
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Maybe. Mesh is great now but some think 5G will eventually replace traditional home wifi networks and each device will get data into it. Who knows.
Holy interference...




That means that instead of sharing the same wavelength to my 15 devices in my home, i'll get 15 cell signals instead on different wavelengths?


Unless there's something different about how 5G runs?
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Holy interference...




That means that instead of sharing the same wavelength to my 15 devices in my home, i'll get 15 cell signals instead on different wavelengths?


Unless there's something different about how 5G runs?
You nailed it. More likely it's going to be 5G to your router and then your wifi mesh network will distribute.
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You nailed it. More likely it's going to be 5G to your router and then your wifi mesh network will distribute.

Ok, that's definitely a lot easier to swallow..
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Maybe. Mesh is great now but some think 5G will eventually replace traditional home wifi networks and each device will get data into it. Who knows.
So Apple's looking a whole generation ahead.

I hope they know what they're doing.
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
Do you think that Apple is making a mistake when it gives up on product lines like the Airport Extreme and Time Capsule?

It used to be part of the Jobs philosophy to control the access point and backup.
i think so because it’s all part of the Apple ecosystem.

you start taking away from the ecosystem and people will start finding it easier to leave the walled garden
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Ok, that's definitely a lot easier to swallow..


Originally Posted by Mizouse


i think so because it’s all part of the Apple ecosystem.

you start taking away from the ecosystem and people will start finding it easier to leave the walled garden
The documentation for performing Time Machine backups with a non-Apple router is insufficient.
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Updated AirPods

H1 chip. wireless charging case. “Hey Siri”.

https://www.apple.com/airpods/




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New color cases and Apple Watch bands.

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/03/20...s-cases-bands/
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50% more talk time on the Airpods is nice, talk time kinda sucked IRL. Usually about 1.5 hours for me

AirPods deliver an industry-leading6 5 hours of listening time7 — and now up to 3 hours of talk time8 — all on one charge.

...

Powered by the all-new Apple H1 headphone chip, AirPods deliver a faster and more stable wireless connection to your devices — up to 2x faster when switching between active devices,3 and a 1.5x faster connection time for phone calls.4The H1 chip also drives voice-enabled Siri access and delivers up to 30 percent lower gaming latency

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$40 premium if you want the wireless charging case, I'll pass

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$79 by itself


but yea I’d pass, I have nothing that charges wirelessly except the Apple Watch.
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Wire free Powerbeats pro show up in iOS 12.2.

im more interested in these over AirPods because AirPods/EarPods are uncomfortable to me.

i also lift heavy shit in the gym and everyone I’ve seen with airpods that also lifts heavy has had them pop out once in a while.




https://www.macrumors.com/2019/03/25...-pro-ios-12-2/
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My penalty for updating on day 1 is the Apple News app crashes a few seconds after it's launched. Tried deleting and reinstalling, same issue.
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I'm not sure why, but Beta 6 12.2 introduced a cellular signal problem that I did not have with Beta 5. I reported it a half dozen times, it was so annoying, and Apple responded twice asking more questions.

It affected both signals, the T-Mobile plan on eSIM and the Xfinity Mobile plan on physical SIM.

The public release is a little unusual in that it completely over wrote Beta 6, leaves the Feedback application intact, and it solved my temporary problem with the cellular signal capture.

Usually, the last beta is the same as the public release, but that doesn't seem to be true this time, and leaving the Feedback application hints that they want to hear more.
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My penalty for updating on day 1 is the Apple News app crashes a few seconds after it's launched. Tried deleting and reinstalling, same issue.
Working fine now
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Wire free Powerbeats pro show up in iOS 12.2.

im more interested in these over AirPods because AirPods/EarPods are uncomfortable to me.

i also lift heavy shit in the gym and everyone I’ve seen with airpods that also lifts heavy has had them pop out once in a while.

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/03/25...-pro-ios-12-2/
add me to the list of people that said "AirPods look stupid as hell" and later bought them.

The synergy between my watch and phone and MacBook are nice. I've become spoiled by bluetooth headsets, admittedly, as well as the cordless earbud experience.

My AirPods have never fallen out, but it would be great to have better isolation to drown out the shitty music that plays at the gym. I've used Powerbeats before, but it's been a long time. My concern about truly wireless ones will be how comfy are they and how long the battery lasts.

AirPods sound good, but not great.
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I'm sticking with my wired headphones

https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...y-life/585439/

Your AirPods Will Die Soon : The surprisingly short life of new electronic devices

Mar 21, 2019

. . . .

The lithium-ion batteries that power AirPods are everywhere. One industry report forecast that sales would grow to $109.72 billion by 2026, from $36.2 billion in 2018. They charge faster, last longer, and pack more power into a small space than other types of batteries do. But they die faster, too, often after just a few years, because every time you charge them, they degrade a little.

The result: A lot of barely chargeable AirPods and wireless mice and Bluetooth speakers are ending up in the trash as consumers go through products — even expensive ones — faster than ever.

. . . .

...the world will continue to generate a lot of waste. Of the 3.4 million tons of electronic waste generated in America in 2012 — an 80 percent increase from 2000 — just 29 percent was recycled. “Imagine that every single thing in the world has the same life span as a battery, and wore out after 12 to 18 months,” Wiens told me. “It would be catastrophic for consumers and even worse for the planet.”

But, of course, companies design for performance and sales, not life span. They make money when they sell more units...

. . . .

Waste is one of the inherent features of a consumer-spending-driven economy: Companies keep selling things in order to post profits, consumers keep buying them because they have disposable income, and our standard of living improves. There is little apparent downside when consumers throw things away — trash disappears from office buildings and apartment buildings overnight.

But lithium-ion batteries are different from other waste. Tossing them in the trash can create fires at waste-management facilities. And unfettered consumption has big upstream costs: The more devices with lithium-ion batteries that aren’t recycled, the more companies have to mine the finite resources that go into those batteries. Most lithium-ion batteries contain cobalt, which is often mined in terrible conditions in the developing world.

. . . .

When the AirPods were released, Wiens took them apart to see how difficult it would be to strip the headphones of their lithium-ion batteries and other material. He found that because Apple glues AirPods together, the only way to separate the battery from the case would be to use a knife, which means risking an explosion.

Wireless headphones don’t have to be difficult to repair; iFixit has found that Samsung’s Galaxy Buds, for example, are repairable, because they are held together with clips and not glue. But whether intentional or not, Apple’s design choice, Wiens said, is serving to discourage reuse or recycling by making it hard for consumers to do it by themselves, and expensive and dangerous even for professionals.

This frustrates even some hard-core Apple fans. After Chris, a Mac fan who lives in San Francisco, noticed that his AirPods would hold a charge for only about 20 minutes at a time, he looked into replacing the battery. (Chris did not want his last name used because he is a product designer who sometimes freelances for Apple.) He quickly found that it wasn’t possible. “If I could fix things myself, I would do it—it’s just so difficult to do it,” he said. Apple does allow consumers to pay for what it calls a “battery replacement” for AirPods, but each “replaced” AirPod is $49.

. . . .

Often consumers don’t know where to put products such as AirPods that no longer work. Do they go in the recycling? In the garbage? Will Goodwill even accept them? “We haven’t made it really obvious to consumers how to get rid of this stuff appropriately,” said Michael Rohwer, a director of Business for Social Responsibility, which works with companies that try to be more environmentally friendly. Because many devices today are so small, it doesn’t seem like a big deal to toss those old headphones or chargers in the trash.

. . . .

But even companies thinking about sustainability have two conflicting messages for consumers: Buy more, and be more environmentally friendly. On Wednesday, after Apple announced that it was launching the second generation of AirPods, fans on Twitter were ecstatic, bidding farewell to their old AirPods and thanking the CEO, Tim Cook, and the company for releasing the new product.

Apple said the new AirPods contain a chip that allows users longer talk time before the battery runs out. But it didn’t specify whether the battery would last more than two years. That doesn’t bother Desmond Hughes. Sure, his AirPods lasted only two years, he told me, but he can’t imagine living without them.
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I prefer wired in a non-gym environment because fuck charging things since I have a smartwatch too. Not to mention that charges with a USB-micro to magnet dongle and my phone USB-C so traveling is a cord nightmare. I have these Kinivo BT headphones that I charge like once a month for the gym and are like $30.


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