Apple: iPhone News and Discussion Thread
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Killing off the iPhone X, you really think so?
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You'll like it. The stability (depending on what Android device you came from), firmware and app updates and support, as well as the customer service.
If you're like me, you'll be bored within a few years or less. X is a great device. But I opted not to upgrade from my 7+
If you're like me, you'll be bored within a few years or less. X is a great device. But I opted not to upgrade from my 7+
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That's why I installed the beta of iOS 11. The bugs, crashes, random freezes, and shortened battery life made using my iPhone interesting again.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
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That's why I installed the beta of iOS 11. The bugs, crashes, random freezes, and shortened battery life made using my iPhone interesting again.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
About the only thing I got out of the betas was new emojis 
There's been nothing groundbreaking IMO (as far as iPhones go) aside from the original iPhone, iPhone 4, and iPhone 6 Plus. The user experience is basically the same as every other iPhone owner.
They're great devices. I just liken the release of a new iPhone to the unveiling of an all new Accord
There's been nothing groundbreaking IMO (as far as iPhones go) aside from the original iPhone, iPhone 4, and iPhone 6 Plus. The user experience is basically the same as every other iPhone owner.
They're great devices. I just liken the release of a new iPhone to the unveiling of an all new Accord
You'll like it. The stability (depending on what Android device you came from), firmware and app updates and support, as well as the customer service.
If you're like me, you'll be bored within a few years or less. X is a great device. But I opted not to upgrade from my 7+
If you're like me, you'll be bored within a few years or less. X is a great device. But I opted not to upgrade from my 7+
That's why I installed the beta of iOS 11. The bugs, crashes, random freezes, and shortened battery life made using my iPhone interesting again.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
iOS 11.2.2 has fixed most of those issues though, so if I start getting bored again, I'll install the beta of iOS 12 later this year.
What do you mean bored?
About the only thing I got out of the betas was new emojis
There's been nothing groundbreaking IMO (as far as iPhones go) aside from the original iPhone, iPhone 4, and iPhone 6 Plus. The user experience is basically the same as every other iPhone owner.
They're great devices. I just liken the release of a new iPhone to the unveiling of an all new Accord
There's been nothing groundbreaking IMO (as far as iPhones go) aside from the original iPhone, iPhone 4, and iPhone 6 Plus. The user experience is basically the same as every other iPhone owner.
They're great devices. I just liken the release of a new iPhone to the unveiling of an all new Accord
So stale in a sense. Nothing new..
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This is hard for me to accept, considering the huge improvements to general operability and number/type of features.
iOS is so easy, so intuitive, I think everyone's afraid to impose a new look onto it.
Stale. Hmmmm. You know, Android's looks aren't changing much, either. But there's a hell of a lot of additional features since it came out, and despite the fact it looks basically the same, it's easier and faster to use.
I'm not sure I want either iOS or Android to change much, although I always appreciate more features and more speed.
iOS is so easy, so intuitive, I think everyone's afraid to impose a new look onto it.
Stale. Hmmmm. You know, Android's looks aren't changing much, either. But there's a hell of a lot of additional features since it came out, and despite the fact it looks basically the same, it's easier and faster to use.
I'm not sure I want either iOS or Android to change much, although I always appreciate more features and more speed.
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This is hard for me to accept, considering the huge improvements to general operability and number/type of features.
iOS is so easy, so intuitive, I think everyone's afraid to impose a new look onto it.
Stale. Hmmmm. You know, Android's looks aren't changing much, either. But there's a hell of a lot of additional features since it came out, and despite the fact it looks basically the same, it's easier and faster to use.
I'm not sure I want either iOS or Android to change much, although I always appreciate more features and more speed.
iOS is so easy, so intuitive, I think everyone's afraid to impose a new look onto it.
Stale. Hmmmm. You know, Android's looks aren't changing much, either. But there's a hell of a lot of additional features since it came out, and despite the fact it looks basically the same, it's easier and faster to use.
I'm not sure I want either iOS or Android to change much, although I always appreciate more features and more speed.
Going to the next iteration, the 7+, I have seen incremental upgrades (as with any manufacturer, really) and haven't seen much in way of variety. At least with Android you can pick a device from a different manufacturer to try. I fully acknowledge that this comes with a bit of unpredictability, but I have been bored to death with iPhones. I'll say it again, they are great devices... but simply not for me. Whether I upgrade to the latest and greatest model or not, what I hold in my hand simply doesn't change much even if I drop $1,000 on it.
I used the Accord analogy because that's really what it's like to me. New Accord MMC comes out, buy it. All these "new features", wow! Same wrapper. FMC, yeah that's even more different, but happens more like every 5 years.
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I gave it a new look when I bought an iPhone 6S+. Starting with the 6+, it was finally when Apple made a device with a screen I was willing to live with, size-wise anyway.
Going to the next iteration, the 7+, I have seen incremental upgrades (as with any manufacturer, really) and haven't seen much in way of variety. At least with Android you can pick a device from a different manufacturer to try. I fully acknowledge that this comes with a bit of unpredictability, but I have been bored to death with iPhones. I'll say it again, they are great devices... but simply not for me. Whether I upgrade to the latest and greatest model or not, what I hold in my hand simply doesn't change much even if I drop $1,000 on it.
I used the Accord analogy because that's really what it's like to me. New Accord MMC comes out, buy it. All these "new features", wow! Same wrapper. FMC, yeah that's even more different, but happens more like every 5 years.
Going to the next iteration, the 7+, I have seen incremental upgrades (as with any manufacturer, really) and haven't seen much in way of variety. At least with Android you can pick a device from a different manufacturer to try. I fully acknowledge that this comes with a bit of unpredictability, but I have been bored to death with iPhones. I'll say it again, they are great devices... but simply not for me. Whether I upgrade to the latest and greatest model or not, what I hold in my hand simply doesn't change much even if I drop $1,000 on it.
I used the Accord analogy because that's really what it's like to me. New Accord MMC comes out, buy it. All these "new features", wow! Same wrapper. FMC, yeah that's even more different, but happens more like every 5 years.
They've backed away from the bigger changes they were projecting, deciding that stability and security should be their priorities.
I don't think you'll see big changes until iOS 13 !!
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I have an LG V30 and I like it a lot, even though of course you have to jump through hoops to get it to work with everything in iCloud.
My biggest fear with all Android devices is that there is no efficient way to roll out a fix for a big problem.
There are important fixes in Oreo, for example, but even though there has been a release version for months, now, very few Android devices have Oreo.
On the other hand, if Apple sees something in iOS that needs to be fixed you have a big red exclamation mark show up in Settings on 100% of Apple devices, immediately!, and you'll eventually get a popup saying, hey, you really need to do this.
My biggest fear with all Android devices is that there is no efficient way to roll out a fix for a big problem.
There are important fixes in Oreo, for example, but even though there has been a release version for months, now, very few Android devices have Oreo.
On the other hand, if Apple sees something in iOS that needs to be fixed you have a big red exclamation mark show up in Settings on 100% of Apple devices, immediately!, and you'll eventually get a popup saying, hey, you really need to do this.
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Apple has shaken up its iOS software plans for 2018, delaying some features to next year in an effort to put more focus on addressing performance and quality issues, Axios has learned.
Why it matters: Apple has been criticized of late, both for security issues and for a number of quality issues, as well as for how it handles battery issues on older devices.
Show lessSoftware head Craig Federighi announced the revised plan to employees at a meeting earlier this month, shortly before he and some top lieutenants headed to a company offsite.
On the cutting board: Pushed into 2019 are a number of features including a refresh of the home screen and in-car user interfaces, improvements to core apps like mail and updates to the picture-taking, photo editing and sharing experiences.
What made it: There will be some new features, of course, including improvements in augmented reality, digital health and parental controls. In addition, Apple is prioritizing work to make iPhones more responsive and less prone to cause customer support issues.
But, but but: While a renewed focus on quality and performance might ease some outside criticism, some inside the team question whether the approach will actual lead to higher quality. Plus, customers tend to pay for features more than security and reliability, which are tough to assess at the time of purchase.
Timing: Apple typically releases its major updates to iOS once a year, in the fall. in conjunction with a new crop of iPhones. There's no reason to believe this year will be different in that regard.
Apple declined to comment.
Why it matters: Apple has been criticized of late, both for security issues and for a number of quality issues, as well as for how it handles battery issues on older devices.
Show lessSoftware head Craig Federighi announced the revised plan to employees at a meeting earlier this month, shortly before he and some top lieutenants headed to a company offsite.
On the cutting board: Pushed into 2019 are a number of features including a refresh of the home screen and in-car user interfaces, improvements to core apps like mail and updates to the picture-taking, photo editing and sharing experiences.
What made it: There will be some new features, of course, including improvements in augmented reality, digital health and parental controls. In addition, Apple is prioritizing work to make iPhones more responsive and less prone to cause customer support issues.
But, but but: While a renewed focus on quality and performance might ease some outside criticism, some inside the team question whether the approach will actual lead to higher quality. Plus, customers tend to pay for features more than security and reliability, which are tough to assess at the time of purchase.
Timing: Apple typically releases its major updates to iOS once a year, in the fall. in conjunction with a new crop of iPhones. There's no reason to believe this year will be different in that regard.
Apple declined to comment.
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I guess that makes sense if they are splitting production/sales projections between the X and the 8. Usually they only have one "new" model so it wouldn't need to be split.
I'm long on a bunch of APPL, wondering if it's time to sell
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If you want to stay long, but think Apple could fall some, sell covered calls and use profit from that to buy protective puts. You could sell weekly $172.50 calls for ~ $2 and buy weekly $162.50 puts for ~$2. Would cost you nothing. Or go a little further out and sell Feb. monthly $175 Calls for ~ $2.45 and use that to buy Feb. monthly $160 puts for same price. Again, $0 cost.
I sold 2 weekly $172.50 calls, but instead of buying weekly protective puts, I sold $160 puts. Making the bet that Apple will stay above $160 / 150 day moving average (blue line) and won't go above $172.50 by end of week. Trade would net me about $600.
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I sold 2 weekly $172.50 calls, but instead of buying weekly protective puts, I sold $160 puts. Making the bet that Apple will stay above $160 / 150 day moving average (blue line) and won't go above $172.50 by end of week. Trade would net me about $600.
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$160.50 : -$7.28 (-4.34%)
After Hours: $160.70 : +$0.20 (0.12%)
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Hmmm I think my iPhone 7 Plus battery is crapped out.
Starting this week it's draining much faster.
Useage haven't changed.
right now I'm down already to 86% and all I did was listen to music and browse a few web pages.
interesting how battery degradation works. It's like flipping a switch?
good thing I've got AppleCare+ on this thing. Save myself $29.
Starting this week it's draining much faster.
Useage haven't changed.
right now I'm down already to 86% and all I did was listen to music and browse a few web pages.
interesting how battery degradation works. It's like flipping a switch?
good thing I've got AppleCare+ on this thing. Save myself $29.
Did the update by mistake last week. Last Friday was on the phone, then hung up. Screen went black, could not turn it back on. Dead battery, I had 70% when I was on the phone. Could still the vibration when I hit the home key. Plugged it into the charger, nothing, no vibration no nothing. Went to AT&T and they couldn't figure it out. Had to get a replacement sent which came in yesterday.
Come to find out it wasn't a jet black Iphone7 that they sent me, it was a Matte black which I like a whole lot better than the Jet black.
Come to find out it wasn't a jet black Iphone7 that they sent me, it was a Matte black which I like a whole lot better than the Jet black.
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at least the fix is on the way.
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Every article I have seen about the Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 indicates that the iPhone X is still going to blow away their scores when it comes to everyday use.
Even the best of the Android flagships released in 2018 will show badly against the iPhone X in Geekbench scores.
I understand why Android users might want to point to other benchmarks like 3D Bench, but for the most part this does not give us a good idea of what an experience will be like in everyday use.
I'd believe in the Qualcomm benchmarks a little more if the Android tablets were still around as much as the iPad is around, but the iPad has put them all down.
Even if you accept that the 845 *might* show better in *some* 3D benchmarks, does anybody really play that kind of game on a small cellular device?
I don't have the answer...I'm really asking. :-)
Meanwhile, we still have the upcoming Apple chip to look forward to, which we can rely on to raise performance to another generation of performance levels, just as the iPhone X did.
Even the best of the Android flagships released in 2018 will show badly against the iPhone X in Geekbench scores.
I understand why Android users might want to point to other benchmarks like 3D Bench, but for the most part this does not give us a good idea of what an experience will be like in everyday use.
I'd believe in the Qualcomm benchmarks a little more if the Android tablets were still around as much as the iPad is around, but the iPad has put them all down.
Even if you accept that the 845 *might* show better in *some* 3D benchmarks, does anybody really play that kind of game on a small cellular device?
I don't have the answer...I'm really asking. :-)
Meanwhile, we still have the upcoming Apple chip to look forward to, which we can rely on to raise performance to another generation of performance levels, just as the iPhone X did.
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Ios 11.2.6 is out
iOS 11.2.6 includes bug fixes for your iPhone or iPad. This update:
Fixes an issue where using certain character sequences could cause apps to crash
Fixes an issue where some third-party apps could fail to connect to external accessories
Fixes an issue where using certain character sequences could cause apps to crash
Fixes an issue where some third-party apps could fail to connect to external accessories
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Yet another day and yet another iOS 11 vulnerability discovered.
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/03/26...vulnerability/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/03/26...vulnerability/
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You forgot your bugs between 3/22 and 3/26.
The nice thing about Apple is that when something is patched because of a problem, all your devices everywhere are going to get the notification to patch. The red mark shows up and does not go away until you upgrade.
It can take years for an Android manufacturer to allow an update to the operating system for Android phones, because they have to be so careful to check whether it breaks their proprietary changes, across a wide variety of devices.
The nice thing about Apple is that when something is patched because of a problem, all your devices everywhere are going to get the notification to patch. The red mark shows up and does not go away until you upgrade.
It can take years for an Android manufacturer to allow an update to the operating system for Android phones, because they have to be so careful to check whether it breaks their proprietary changes, across a wide variety of devices.
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Has anybody done the $29 battery replacement for their iPhone?
I'm reading that the Genius bar interrogates people. Even with random shutdowns at 30% or lower and willingness to pay the full price of $79, some people were getting turned down.
I do not want a new phone right now.
I'm reading that the Genius bar interrogates people. Even with random shutdowns at 30% or lower and willingness to pay the full price of $79, some people were getting turned down.
I do not want a new phone right now.
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Hmm my sister did for her 6.
AFAIK, they didn't have the battery in stock. So they ordered one. When it came in she went in and had it replaced.
not sure if she had random shutdowns.
im gonna need to do this for my old iPhone 6 Plus and my current iPhone 7 Plus.
I don't want a new phone either.
AFAIK, they didn't have the battery in stock. So they ordered one. When it came in she went in and had it replaced.
not sure if she had random shutdowns.
im gonna need to do this for my old iPhone 6 Plus and my current iPhone 7 Plus.
I don't want a new phone either.
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I need to get my old 6 Plus fixed and then sell it.
Its pretty much only used as an alarm clock
i initially kept it since its unlocked, but my 7 Plus came factory unlocked from Apple.
Its pretty much only used as an alarm clock
i initially kept it since its unlocked, but my 7 Plus came factory unlocked from Apple.
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I will say that's one great thing about Apple, they told carriers to keep their bullshit off of their phones or they wouldn't play.