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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Yet there are power users who use a lot of data... me being one of them.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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Just as long as you know you are the exception.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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OF COURSE the day after I do all this research my SIL who is my third line drops and kills her iPhone, sigh.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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Wait what's this bullshit about AT&T?

It's TL:dR the past few posts.

I have unlimited data as just renewed my contract fr 2 years with my iPhone 6P.

Did I pay to much?

My family shares 700minutes/mo
All have unlimited data and text.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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What do you do with your old iPhones? Private sale? Trade-in? Or just gift it to relatives?

My iphone 5 32GB unlocked, $150 trade on AT&T, Best Buy gives $225, I can sell it for $300 privately. Or should I just keep it?
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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If you're still keeping your unlimited data you don't count. Move along.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Wait what's this bullshit about AT&T?

I have unlimited data as just renewed my contract fr 2 years with my iPhone 6P.
You renewed online or in person?
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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I've always sold
Mine.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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If you don't do insurance you should invest in a good case. Maybe not an otterbox but something sturdy. New gen aren't nearly as tough as the previous gen.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
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OF COURSE the day after I do all this research my SIL who is my third line drops and kills her iPhone, sigh.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Gift to relatives.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
If you're still keeping your unlimited data you don't count. Move along.
Ahh ok.

Originally Posted by TeknoKing
You renewed online or in person?
I guess online. I just preordered my 6P with Apple using the Apple Store app.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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I'm selling my 5 once I get it back from my sister. She's using it in the mean time until her 6 comes in.

Already got the unlock approved by AT&T
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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What is the best way to buy a iPhone 6 without a contract? I would prefer to go to Apple store but will they still need my carrier info? If you buy without contact does the iPhone come factory unlocked?
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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They shouldn't need to know it.
And it should come unlocked.

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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While looking into straight talk I learned that if you buy the Tmobile phone from apple.com you will get an unlocked phone. It can then be activated on another carrier such as straight talk as long as you buy the required SIM card. Don't know if the phone works on CDMA or just GSM.

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Is it easy to unlock an iPhone?
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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At&t phone (i am not talking about unlocked) will work just fine on straight talk, i have many friends that use At&t phones on straight and have no problems.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
I've spent 2 hours last night compiling different plans on ATT site, such a stupid rip off. They will charge you same price for 6GB or 30GB on two lines, depends where you click. They force you with the Next so you pay less a month for your plan while paying for a leased phone with hopes that you will get a new phone in 12-18 months and give your old one back so they can refurb and sell it. Of course it also does not help that a $300 phone is selling for almost triple the price because of the manufacturers.

My only option is to keep my unlimited and renew my contract for 2 years with 'subsidized' phone. They can't force the $40 a month on me right? They must honor my existing gradfathered plan, yes?

Tmobile, 60 bux get yous unlimited talk/text with 3GB, now this is nice. Anyone has T-mobile?
Once you pay it off, it's yours to keep based on the rep at ATT store. I asked her a couple times to be sure that was the case.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
While looking into straight talk I learned that if you buy the Tmobile phone from apple.com you will get an unlocked phone. It can then be activated on another carrier such as straight talk as long as you buy the required SIM card. Don't know if the phone works on CDMA or just GSM.
Unlocked iPhone 6 works with both CDMA and GSM out of the box. You just need a SIM card that's already activated for that carrier which is what Straight Talk will provide you with.

iPhone 6 model # A1549 is compatible with:
GSM:
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA:
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
iPhone 6 model # A1522 is compatible with:
GSM:
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
CDMA:
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)

GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)

^ This is straight from https://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/


I believe only exception is if it's a Sprint iPhone. Verizon iPhone with work with any other carrier network. Tmobile iPhone will work with any other carrier network.

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Once you pay it off, it's yours to keep based on the rep at ATT store. I asked her a couple times to be sure that was the case.
Yes it is yours to keep, you are however overpaying for it, but this is not the main issue, the main issue is that once you paid your phone off, Next is no longer valid and you will be charged $40 per line monthly...

They will basically lock you this in Next circle forever unless you are willing to lose the discount, buy the phone at full price or wait 24 months to upgrade, and enjoy $40 more a month per line.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Yes it is yours to keep, you are however overpaying for it
No, if you do the math....say you want a 6+ 128gb on the Next 12 plan....at 20 months you have paid $950....phone retails for $949.

Where you pay more, and get fucked, is if you do in fact turn it in after 12 months...you've paid $570, where the subsidized cost is $499.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
the main issue is that once you paid your phone off, Next is no longer valid and you will be charged $40 per line monthly...

They will basically lock you this in Next circle forever unless you are willing to lose the discount, buy the phone at full price or wait 24 months to upgrade, and enjoy $40 more a month per line.
I don't think this is true either. I think there is the whole BYOD to Next...you keep that $15, you don't HAVE to be on a payment cycle.

Same with those of us on that currently discounted mobile share plan...We will only get nailed for the full $40 if we re-up the 2 year contract...If I buy a phone outright, I don't think they can touch it.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Apple Caves: 'Camera Roll' Is Coming Back To Your iPhone

Apple customers freaked out last month over a change in Apple's new mobile operating system, iOS 8. Now, it looks like Apple has listened to the feedback.

iOS 8 removed "Camera Roll," the album where every photo taken with an iPhone is stored. Photos were instead sent to a new folder named "Recently Added."

While this is just a small change, it caused outrage. iPhone users were left confused by the move.

The "Recently Added" folder also contained deleted photos saved on iCloud, meaning that it was impossible to see which photos were actually stored on the device. It also made deleting photos trickier, as they were then sent to a folder called "Recently Deleted" instead of being removed from the device.

Here's how iOS 8 photos used to work:

iOS 8 Camera Roll changes
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Unhappy iPhone users complained on Twitter about the removal of camera roll.


Noticing that people were unhappy, budding app developers have been building apps to provide an unofficial Camera Roll folder that shows all photos saved on a device. They've been using Twitter to track down angry Apple customers and let them know about their apps.

Now, Apple has abandoned its plan to move away from Camera Roll and force users to combine all of their photos together. The new iOS 8.1 beta has been released to developers, and they've noticed that Camera Roll has been restored.

Here's what the new beta version of iOS 8 looks like:

iOS 8.1 beta release notes live camera roll back
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Product Reviews reports that a folder named "Camera Roll" has appeared in the new beta version of iOS 8, but that it may simply be a renamed version of "Recently Added" designed to stop users being confused.



Read more: Apple Is Bringing Back 'Camera Roll' - Business Insider
Awesome! It was a dumb idea to get rid of it in the first place.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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It's because everyone thought their pics were missing.


I didn't mind it, I just didn't like that some apps didn't have access to all your pics. Only "recently added". So if I wanted to do with something >30 days I'm SOL.

That and couldnt tell what pics were actually on my phone or on my iPad.

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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I don't think this is true either. I think there is the whole BYOD to Next...you keep that $15, you don't HAVE to be on a payment cycle.

Same with those of us on that currently discounted mobile share plan...We will only get nailed for the full $40 if we re-up the 2 year contract...If I buy a phone outright, I don't think they can touch it.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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I guess Im on the bandwagon of...all devices should be unlocked, carriers have their plans, people pay the device cost. period.

I know its how Europe operates. And after all this crap, Im on board for this, too.

No more slaving phones to carriers. Fuck them.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Europe was better but not great. You still kind of paid for the phone during contract, but the price for the plans were much better. Cheaper and more data (I was getting 80+MBPS in London compared to around 30 here).
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Europe was better but not great. You still kind of paid for the phone during contract, but the price for the plans were much better. Cheaper and more data (I was getting 80+MBPS in London compared to around 30 here).
Competition

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/bu...one-bills.html

Two Countries, Two Vastly Different Phone Bills

If your monthly cellphone bill seems high, that may be because American cellphone service is among the most costly in the world. A comparison of two similar plans, one in the United States and one in Britain, reveals a marked difference.

Both plans include a new iPhone 5S with 16 gigabytes of memory. Both require a two-year commitment and allow unlimited voice minutes and unlimited texting. The plan offered by the British provider, Three UK, offers unlimited data and requires no upfront payment. With Britain’s 20 percent tax included, the plan costs 41 pounds a month, or $67.97 at current exchange rates.

The plan provided by the American carrier, Verizon Wireless, has an upfront cost of $99.99 and then $90 a month, not including taxes. Spreading the upfront cost over 24 months and adding 17 percent tax — typical for the United States — comes to $109.47 a month. But while the British plan includes unlimited data, the American plan does not. It includes two gigabytes a month, with an additional gigabyte free during an introductory period.

So why the $41.50-a-month difference in price? Several factors are involved, but an important one is regulatory policy. Britain has forced companies to lease their networks to competitors at cost. The United States has not, allowing a formidable barrier against competitors.

“The United States lacks meaningful competition in its cellular market sector, which leads to higher cell plan prices than a growing list of other countries,” said Sascha Meinrath, founder of the Open Technology Institute at the New America Foundation.

In a 2010 study, the institute found that the minimum cost of a complete cellphone package, which features voice, data and text, was $59.99 a month in the United States, compared with $32.40 in Britain.

“Over the next decade,” Mr. Meinrath said, “U.S. consumers may overpay by over a quarter of a trillion dollars for worse levels of service than customers in other countries receive.”
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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The question is how do we resolve that?
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 06:46 AM
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^Politics, lobbies, etc.

Whiskers, don't you buy the phones outright in the UK though?
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 06:58 AM
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^Politics, lobbies, etc.

Whiskers, don't you buy the phones outright in the UK though?
No, its the same as here basically. Pay more upfront with a cheaper monthly rate or more up front with a pricier rate. Just seems cheaper in general for the plan.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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So in short Sarlacc, you're going to buy your own phone at retail cost and then just switch it to your plan. Bill stays the same. But the phone costs a lot more up front. Correct?

Sounds like the winner imo.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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^Exactly. As long as he doesn't subsidize the cost of the phone then his monthly will be unaffected. Just his wallet upon phone purchase.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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your better off buying the phone without contract or the Next plan because that way it will come factory unlocked, just make sure to go thru Apple not At&T. but if you go with the Next plan in the end your phone will still cost the full amount and it will be locked to that carrier only.

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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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^ AT&T unlocks your phone after 24 months contract period. My iPhone is unlocked with a simple online form and iTunes restore.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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So in short Sarlacc, you're going to buy your own phone at retail cost and then just switch it to your plan. Bill stays the same. But the phone costs a lot more up front. Correct?

Sounds like the winner imo.
When it's time for a new phone. Yes that is correct.
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Old Oct 3, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Perhaps it is because I've been out of the iPhone game awhile as my daily, but I don't remember the older models being quite this bad in terms of stocks. I know there were a few weeks wait if you didn't get in on the preorder, but from what I'm hearing it could be well into November before stock exceeds demand. Damn.
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