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Old 02-11-2010, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
On my older desktop (5yrs old), flash would lock me system up like crazy.




Another thing is WHY would Apple make a product that would let you use flash online when it competes with what they sell, games and movies?
This came up about 6 pages ago. It's obviously a big part of their reasoning. The underlying question is, why buy a product that does less than another product can do.

Apple doesn't want flash, fine. So why buy an iPad (if having flash is a concern)?

Essentially, if faced with buying a nice laptop or a iPad, why buy the iPad? Other than it looking cool.
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594

Essentially, if faced with buying a nice laptop or a iPad, why buy the iPad? Other than it looking cool.
If you are looking at a real laptop, then the ipad isnt even a product on your list.

When I bought my 12" MBP I was looking for a computer to take out on the road with me for processing my photographs. As much as I loved the MBAs...the MBP was my best option and I went with it. I would have not looked at or considered something such as an ipad.

The ipad wasnt designed to compete with the nice laptop, never was.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
If you are looking at a real laptop, then the ipad isnt even a product on your list.

When I bought my 12" MBP I was looking for a computer to take out on the road with me for processing my photographs. As much as I loved the MBAs...the MBP was my best option and I went with it. I would have not looked at or considered something such as an ipad.

The ipad wasnt designed to compete with the nice laptop, never was.
I don't know, even after all the time that passes, I feel as is apple is patronizing us with the iPad. Maybe's it's smart, large part of the population is going to start getting old and uninterested in technology very soon. This is right up there ally. But for me, I'm opposed to it's conceptuality.
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And I think the form factor is a step in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
On my older desktop (5yrs old), flash would lock me system up like crazy.




Another thing is WHY would Apple make a product that would let you use flash online when it competes with what they sell, games and movies?
So then why support HTML5 if it can what flash can do?
Old 02-11-2010, 09:05 PM
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So then why support HTML5 if it can what flash can do?
Don't know, why don't you call Steve and ask him?
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
So then why support HTML5 if it can what flash can do?
because html5 does what flash can WITHOUT the heavy drain on the system...I said it before. Flash is an outside program/code/codec/whatever that runs in the browser but still uses up the computers RAM.

html5 runs within the browser and through the browser. Its more efficient and does not drain the system of its resources. Its self contained.

I dont think its a conflict of interest with regards to itunes sales. I think its a attempt to push things to the next generation. Such as the example mentioned when apple decided to drop floppy support before everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
because html5 does what flash can WITHOUT the heavy drain on the system...I said it before. Flash is an outside program/code/codec/whatever that runs in the browser but still uses up the computers RAM.

html5 runs within the browser and through the browser. Its more efficient and does not drain the system of its resources. Its self contained.
I know that, I was just pointing out the error of his argument. If you guys want to watch videos with out flash these sites below all will play their videos with HTML5 instead of flash.

http://jilion.com/sublime/video (requires google chrome or safari)
http://www.youtube.com/html5 (requires google chrome or safari)
http://vimeo.com/blog:268 (requires google chrome or safari)
http://www.dailymotion.com/openvideodemo (requires google chrome, firefox or safari)

Only one of those sites work in Firefox since it doesn't support the h.264 format with the HTML5 video tag. So yet again google chrome > firefox
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Flash is dying. There are newer way more efficient ways to deliver the same content (html5.) And whatever the reasons behind Job's unwillingness to relinquish the proprietary code needed by adobe to create flash content for the phone/pad is his choice. It will lose him potential buyers for the time being.

But this is one way to force content providers to drop flash, and I'm sure its a tactic Job's gambling on. Wouldnt be the first time he's made a move like that...and its worked before.

And in the interim....my only guess, like hulu......"there's an app for that" will apply to many of these content providers in managing to still be usable on the pad/phone.

The only news I really want to hear that would really sell me on the device is Netflix. I really hope netflix is trying to develop an app to allow for their instant play feature. That is a huge plus of owning something such as the pad.
Until sites like Nick Jr switch, it's plenty relevant to me. I don't know if I'd ever let a 4 year old play with an iPad, but it was certainly a consideration when I passed on picking up my first Mac (a used iMac) last year. Would have been absolutely PERFECT for the application, but it was a deal breaker. I'm no huge Adobe fan, but it is what it is right now - to have a full internet experience, Flash is a must.

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not true. a lot of people dont view an iphone as a media device. Enter the ipad with a much larger screen and youve just gained the interest and attention of whole new group.

A company such as hulu might not have felt it was worth making an app for a 3" screen. But they certainly feel its worth making an app for a 9.7" screen.
I certainly don't speak for a lot of people, but I use my iPhone every single workday for watching old Top Gear episodes. And if the wifi connection here was worth a shit (or if 3G could penetrate below ground), I'd get my share of YouTube in as well.

Unfortunately, public transport to work isn't an option here, so I can't imagine those who ride trains and buses, how much use they have.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I dont think its a conflict of interest with regards to itunes sales. I think its a attempt to push things to the next generation. Such as the example mentioned when apple decided to drop floppy support before everyone else.
I disagree man, I think this is 100% Apple wanting to control the media market. Everyone knows that html5 is the future, but it's the not immediate future and it certainly was a distant future back when the first iPhone came out. The progression into html5 will happen naturally and sources will use it when it comes out, but including Flash in the 3 (maybe 4) generations of iphones and the iPad would not have slowed that progression.

Then when html5 was up and running, Flash could have simple been left out. Next generation transition complete, everyone happy, less movie/show sales for Apple.
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The future of HTML5 depends almost solely on the abandonment rate of Windows XP and Vista and maybe even Windows 7. the default browsers for those OS's (IE6 and IE7) have zero support for HTML5 and IE8 has only basic support and doesn't support the video tag. Since these browser combined make up almost 60% of the browser market HTML5 won't take off until they're gone. Luckily IE9 is looking to be pretty damn good but we won't know more about IE9 until Mix'10 (MS web development conference in March). I don't expect IE9 to run on XP or at least not as good as Vista/7; I'd love for them to drop support of XP all together with this browser.
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At macworld right now...
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I guess since apple isn't there, there aren't any ipads to play with. They are having a presention about it on Saturday, but I'm working
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man those apple LED displays

i like how the images look on glossy displays, but i hate the reflective glossiness
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
man those apple LED displays

i like how the images look on glossy displays, but i hate the reflective glossiness
When you are in a controlled environment, such as your room, thats not an issue.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
man those apple LED displays

i like how the images look on glossy displays, but i hate the reflective glossiness
http://www.pcworld.com/article/18907..._shipping.html
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The Dell monitors win because they have the inputs. Though the new iMacs FINALLY allow for inputs as well via a miniDVI adapter.

I know I'm in a league of my own but I prefer the glossy screens. I get very accurate results with my photography vs print. I've been happy with it on my iMac and my MBP.
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there was a company there that was selling mini display port to dvi adaptors so i could hook one up to my PC...

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its 16:9, no thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
its 16:9, no thanks.
So are Apples
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whats wrong with 16x9?

And they are actually a titch bigger than 16x9, always have been.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
So are Apples
not the 24" display, its 1920x1200.



and the reason why i don't like 16:9 for a computer is because its shorter. not as nice for looking at websites, documents, photos and whatnot.

now if i used it mainly for movies and HD content then yea i would love to have 16:9
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not the 24" display, its 1920x1200.



and the reason why i don't like 16:9 for a computer is because its shorter. not as nice for looking at websites, documents, photos and whatnot.

now if i used it mainly for movies and HD content then yea i would love to have 16:9
That is essentially 16x9...just a hair taller. a hair.

I love mine.
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I've been eying this monitor and as soon as it was announced I went to the site and was about to buy one I got up to the point where you hit submit and then backed out. It's almost $1200 after tax, that's a lot for a monitor. All the reviews are saying this is the best monitor they've seen but I think I'll wait for it to go on sale or for Dell to do the bing cashback deal again.
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its 16:9, no thanks.
the 27 imac is also 16:9
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whats wrong with 16x9?

And they are actually a titch bigger than 16x9, always have been.
I do prefer 16:10 over 16:9 and the iMac is the first screen from Apple that's 16:9, all the screens seem to be going that way now a days.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA

I do prefer 16:10 over 16:9 and the iMac is the first screen from Apple that's 16:9, all the screens seem to be going that way now a days.
Its such a minor difference and when you get to 27" it doesnt really matter.
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well since ive never actually experienced 16:9 on a computer, so i cant really judge it.

but when i do set my monitor to 1920x1080 the difference is pretty significant. there are like 1/2 inch black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.

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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
I've been eying this monitor and as soon as it was announced I went to the site and was about to buy one I got up to the point where you hit submit and then backed out. It's almost $1200 after tax, that's a lot for a monitor. All the reviews are saying this is the best monitor they've seen but I think I'll wait for it to go on sale or for Dell to do the bing cashback deal again.

the 27 imac is also 16:9


I do prefer 16:10 over 16:9 and the iMac is the first screen from Apple that's 16:9, all the screens seem to be going that way now a days.
i was talking about the 24" display..
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It's 160 pixels. It's not stopping me from wanting that Dell monitor but I'd prefer it if given the choice, though I think I'd still choose that Dell 16:9 monitor over another 16:10 27in monitor.
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well yea, i would too since its IPS.

well except for maybe something from NEC but they cost alot more.
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Jesus Christ this is the dumbest discussion in a long time.
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LOVE my HP 2475.. 1920x1200.

yes it is only 120 pixels but like Miz I also prefer 1920x1200 for computer monitor.

and oh yeah, its matte.
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16:9 haters.
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Hulu for iPad Likely to Be a Paid Subscription Service

Friday February 19, 2010 11:04 AM EST
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Last week, a report that video site Hulu might be making its way to the iPad generated a significant amount of interest, with many users excited about the prospect of free access to television content on Apple's forthcoming tablet device. MediaMemo reports, however, that iPad access to Hulu is more likely to come as part of a paid subscription package than as free access like the computer-based version of the site.

Hulu and its owners -- three of the big broadcast TV networks -- want to bring some version of the Web video service to Apple's device.

But the most likely scenario is one where access to Hulu on the iPad comes as part of a subscription package, multiple people familiar with the company tell me.
Hulu has in the past noted that it is looking for a way to introduce paid content to its offerings, and today's report indicates that company executives may be thinking that the best way to achieve that goal while preserving the free experience for computer-based users is to charge for mobile-based content such as that which would appear on the iPad.

And while you could argue that the iPad isn't necessarily a mobile device, since 3G Internet access is an optional feature, Hulu and its owners are likely to classify it as one. Like many other content owners, the video service sees the device as an opportunity to charge for something it has been giving away for free on the Web.
Aside from the previously-documented hurdle Hulu faces with its current video player being Flash-based and Apple's mobile devices not supporting the standard, the company would also need to secure mobile rights from content providers before being able to offer such a service to the iPad and other mobile platforms.

Consequently, the report concludes that Hulu for the iPad is unlikely to launch alongside the device itself next month, but users can probably expect in some form, likely paid, in the future.
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I didn't read the whole thing, but the title is bull shit, Hulu will be PAID service for EVERYONE soon.
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/03/05/i...ex.html?hpt=T2

Apple's iPad to be released April 3
By Doug Gross, CNN
March 5, 2010 12:12 p.m. EST

* Company will take orders for the tablet-style computer starting March 12
* Steve Jobs calls half-inch, 1.5 pound computer "magical and revolutionary"
* iPad will be released in other countries in late April

(CNN) -- Apple's eagerly anticipated iPad will be available in the United States on April 3, the company said Friday.

Wi-Fi models of the tablet-style computer will go on sale that Saturday, while ones with Wi-Fi and 3G networks will be released later in the month.

Customers can start pre-ordering the iPad on Apple's online store on March 12.

"iPad is something completely new," Apple CEO Steve Jobs said in a Friday post on the company's Web site. "We're excited for customers to get their hands on this magical and revolutionary product and connect with their apps and content in a more intimate, intuitive and fun way than ever before."

Unveiled on January 27, theiPad is designed to act as a sort of "missing link" between the smartphone and the laptop computer.

It has a nearly 10-inch screen, runs existing apps from the Apple apps store and is available in 16-gigabyte, 32-gigabyte and 64-gigabyte versions. It's a half-inch thick and weighs a pound-and-a-half.

Prices start at $499 for the 16-gigabyte version, $599 for the 32-gig version and $699 for the 64, Jobs said at the company's glitzy announcement in San Francisco, California.

The iPad will be released in late April in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland and the UK, Apple said in the post on its site.

Prices in those countries will be announced in April and iPad will ship in additional countries later this year.
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Macrumors days the reason for the delay was the OS.

So let's hope they put in some good features
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meh, it's just a big ipod touch


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