Android: Phone News and Discussion Thread
#2001
Team Owner
What's wrong with the Atrix 4G? Minus the dock price. Specs look pretty excellent and ATT seems to be pushing for Android this year since they lost the iPhone exclusivity. The Galaxy S2 is looking pretty nice as well. Just sucks that Samsung is the one making it. Although they did deliver on Froyo in the international realm like they said they would and supposedly Gingerbread is being tested at the moment for the current Galaxy S line.
#2003
I disagree with unanimity
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Also, for the many people who have been waiting for it, Words With Friends is now in the market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zynga.words
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zynga.words
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Wait you guys dont have Netflix on android???!??
Apparently it's coming to android devices w/ a snapdragon processor.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/q...ure-android-d/
Apparently it's coming to android devices w/ a snapdragon processor.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/q...ure-android-d/
#2005
Safety Car
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
The only thing holding me back from purchasing the Atrix is the uncertainty of the bootloader being locked down and I'm actually enjoying my Galaxy S at the moment so I don't have a reason to upgrade yet.
Last edited by CGFebTSX04; 02-14-2011 at 05:38 PM.
#2006
Safety Car
Wait you guys dont have Netflix on android???!??
Apparently it's coming to android devices w/ a snapdragon processor.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/q...ure-android-d/
Apparently it's coming to android devices w/ a snapdragon processor.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/q...ure-android-d/
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geez i just read that review for the Atrix, looks like i would wait off for the 2nd generation or something.
pretty disappointing as the main thing that interested me in the phone was the accessories.
pretty disappointing as the main thing that interested me in the phone was the accessories.
#2009
Banned
Sprint Announces Kyocera Echo
Posted on Wednesday February, 9 2011 by mindfrost82 | 5 Comments
![](http://www.ppcgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kyocera-echo-kyocera.jpg)
I know we're a little behind the ball on this one since it was announced on Monday, but better late than never right? The Kyocera Echo is the first dual-touchscreen Android phone on the Market. This phone will be available in Spring 2011 and will run Android 2.2 (Froyo) with a 1GHz Snapdragon processor. Why no Gingerbread though? It has two 3.5" WVGA screens. Its 4.53" long, 2.23" wide, and 0.68" thick. There's also no front-facing camera, only a rear-facing 5MP camera. It will also come with an 8Gb microSD card, expandable up to 32Gb.
Depending on that hinge’s angle, those screens can perform multiple functions. Slide one over the other, the Echo looks and feels like a somewhat thicker single-screen smartphone. Slid flat and side-by-side, the smartphone offers a 4.7-inch screen (broken by the hinge) for displaying movies and other media (each screen offers 800x480 resolution). One screen tilted at an angle to the other allows for typing on a virtual keyboard, on one screen, while viewing, say, e-mail or Facebook on the other.
It appears that the price point will be $199 on a two-year contract after a $100 mail-in rebate.
Posted on Wednesday February, 9 2011 by mindfrost82 | 5 Comments
![](http://www.ppcgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/kyocera-echo-kyocera.jpg)
I know we're a little behind the ball on this one since it was announced on Monday, but better late than never right? The Kyocera Echo is the first dual-touchscreen Android phone on the Market. This phone will be available in Spring 2011 and will run Android 2.2 (Froyo) with a 1GHz Snapdragon processor. Why no Gingerbread though? It has two 3.5" WVGA screens. Its 4.53" long, 2.23" wide, and 0.68" thick. There's also no front-facing camera, only a rear-facing 5MP camera. It will also come with an 8Gb microSD card, expandable up to 32Gb.
Depending on that hinge’s angle, those screens can perform multiple functions. Slide one over the other, the Echo looks and feels like a somewhat thicker single-screen smartphone. Slid flat and side-by-side, the smartphone offers a 4.7-inch screen (broken by the hinge) for displaying movies and other media (each screen offers 800x480 resolution). One screen tilted at an angle to the other allows for typing on a virtual keyboard, on one screen, while viewing, say, e-mail or Facebook on the other.
It appears that the price point will be $199 on a two-year contract after a $100 mail-in rebate.
#2011
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#2012
Banned
#2013
Safety Car
MT4G or G2. Vibrant 4G is coming out on the 23rd will have a front facing cam and "4G' support, but otherwise pretty similar to the original Vibrant.
#2014
Moderator
I do not recommend upgrading to the Vibrant 4G though. Wait for the Galaxy S2 line. That right there is a worthy upgrade that I might even drop money on.
#2015
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When is the Galaxy S2 coming out?
Also, anyone know if the video chats work between Android and iPhone?
Also, anyone know if the video chats work between Android and iPhone?
#2016
My Garage
#2017
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#2018
Safety Car
Lots of video chat options and all can work on Wifi AND 3G.
Yahoo Messenger - (Works with MT4G, and EVO only I believe)
Fring
Tango
Qik
Skype Video will be coming to Verizon soon
#2019
Safety Car
NVIDIA just announced that they're going to be releasing Quad-Core Android tablets in August of this year and Quad-Core phones by the holidays. That's just insane. All the other companies are barely pushing out their dual core processors and NVIDIA decides to beat them all by releasing Quad cores before some of them even release their dual cores. ![what](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/what.gif)
Source: http://androidandme.com/2011/02/news...ces-by-summer/
The iPad 2 and all other tablets will be outdated by August if they really do release these Quad cores. Engadget has a video of the Quad-Core in action so it must mean its pretty much ready to go. They also say its more battery efficient as well.
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Everyone in the industry was aware that NVIDIA was working on a quad-core processor, but I doubt that any expected them to demo their next-generation Tegra at Mobile World Congress. Tonight in front of a small audience of bloggers, NVIDIA showed off the world´s first mobile quad-core CPU and revealed it would arrive in Android devices this August.
Before we dive into the details of the this chip, I wanted to point out how NVIDIA chose to reveal this information to the world. Instead of paper-launching their next-generation CPU and saying it would arrive in 2012 (like Qualcomm and Texas Instruments did just days ago), NVIDIA skipped the press release entirely and delivered a working tablet along with several jaw-dropping software demos.
The Tegra roadmap through 2014.
The presentation started with NVIDIA announcing their Tegra roadmap through 2014. Sticking with earlier statements, NVIDIA will maintain their yearly cadence by release a new Tegra every year.
The Tegra 2 has often been referred to as a super-chip, so NVIDIA went with super-hero names for their upcoming mobile chips. Project Kal-El (assumed to become Tegra 3) will arrive in 2011 and deliver 5x the performance of Tegra 2, followed by Wayne in 2012, Logan in 2013, and Stark in 2014.
As ridiculous as this sounds, Project Stark (Tegra 6?) is expected to deliver 100x the performance of Tegra 2 in just three years from now.
Unbelievable performance
To demonstrate the power of their quad-core CPU, NVIDIA started with an Android tablet decoding 1440p video to an extreme HD monitor (2560 × 1600 panel). It looked simply amazing. We were later told the source video was shot with a Red digital camera and then downscaled to 1440p for the demonstration.
Next we saw a series of game demos that compared the current Tegra 2 with the upcoming Project Kal-El. We were asked not to reveal the details of several games, but we did witness about a 3x performance increase in graphics performance. Advanced games that could barely crack 20 frames per second on Tegra 2 were running at a silky smooth 60 fps on Kal-El.
One game demo we can talk about is History Channel Great Battles: Medieval from War Drums Studios. This game was released for PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 last year and it was currently being ported to Honeycomb tablets. Thomas Williamson, lead developer and CEO, had less than 24 hours to get the demo running on the quad-core Kal-El, but he was able to pull it off since NVIDIA´s new platform uses a similar GeForce GPU architecture.
Next we saw some benchmarks like CoreMark, which showed Kal-El (score of 11,354) out performing Intel´s 2 GHz Core2Duo T7200 (score of 10,136). NVIDIA said this silicon was only 14 days old, so we can only expect that performance will continue to improve as they optimize the platform.
Highlights of Project Kal-El include:
■World´s first mobile quad-core CPU
■New 12-core NVIDIA GPU, with support for 3D stereo
■Extreme HD – 2560 x 1600
■5x Tegra 2
Overall, I was extremely impressed with that NVIDIA showed. I have the whole thing captured on video, but there is no way that will be going up tonight on my hotel´s WiFi connection.
Availability
The most shocking part of the event came when NVIDIA shared the availability for Kal-El. The chips are sampling now and we should see them in tablets by August and smartphones will arrive by Christmas (confirming an earlier prediction of mine).
Michael Rayfield, General Manager of Mobile of NVIDIA´s mobile business unit, hinted at this when we previously spoke with him at CES saying, ”It will be pretty quick. I believe I will have my next generation Tegra in production probably before my competitors have their dual-core in production. And so that talks a lot about velocity.”
NVIDIA´s aggressive release schedule is still shocking because the other semiconductor companies are not expected to have comparable chips until the second half of 2012.
Imagine the possibilities
If you thought the Atrix 4G was an innovative product, just wait till you see what the mobile device manufactures dream up for Kal-El.
I´ll go out on a limb and predict that Google will select Tegra 3 as the lead platform for the next major Android release (Jelly bean?) and slap it in their Nexus 3 this Christmas. Maybe my dream handset with Android, Chrome OS, and Google TV on a single device will actually become a reality.
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This is such huge breaking news that I am still trying to comprehend how it will change the mobile industry. I´m hitting publish now, but I will continue to update this post throughout the night. We would love to hear what you think in the mean time.
Before we dive into the details of the this chip, I wanted to point out how NVIDIA chose to reveal this information to the world. Instead of paper-launching their next-generation CPU and saying it would arrive in 2012 (like Qualcomm and Texas Instruments did just days ago), NVIDIA skipped the press release entirely and delivered a working tablet along with several jaw-dropping software demos.
The Tegra roadmap through 2014.
The presentation started with NVIDIA announcing their Tegra roadmap through 2014. Sticking with earlier statements, NVIDIA will maintain their yearly cadence by release a new Tegra every year.
The Tegra 2 has often been referred to as a super-chip, so NVIDIA went with super-hero names for their upcoming mobile chips. Project Kal-El (assumed to become Tegra 3) will arrive in 2011 and deliver 5x the performance of Tegra 2, followed by Wayne in 2012, Logan in 2013, and Stark in 2014.
As ridiculous as this sounds, Project Stark (Tegra 6?) is expected to deliver 100x the performance of Tegra 2 in just three years from now.
Unbelievable performance
To demonstrate the power of their quad-core CPU, NVIDIA started with an Android tablet decoding 1440p video to an extreme HD monitor (2560 × 1600 panel). It looked simply amazing. We were later told the source video was shot with a Red digital camera and then downscaled to 1440p for the demonstration.
Next we saw a series of game demos that compared the current Tegra 2 with the upcoming Project Kal-El. We were asked not to reveal the details of several games, but we did witness about a 3x performance increase in graphics performance. Advanced games that could barely crack 20 frames per second on Tegra 2 were running at a silky smooth 60 fps on Kal-El.
One game demo we can talk about is History Channel Great Battles: Medieval from War Drums Studios. This game was released for PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 last year and it was currently being ported to Honeycomb tablets. Thomas Williamson, lead developer and CEO, had less than 24 hours to get the demo running on the quad-core Kal-El, but he was able to pull it off since NVIDIA´s new platform uses a similar GeForce GPU architecture.
Next we saw some benchmarks like CoreMark, which showed Kal-El (score of 11,354) out performing Intel´s 2 GHz Core2Duo T7200 (score of 10,136). NVIDIA said this silicon was only 14 days old, so we can only expect that performance will continue to improve as they optimize the platform.
Highlights of Project Kal-El include:
■World´s first mobile quad-core CPU
■New 12-core NVIDIA GPU, with support for 3D stereo
■Extreme HD – 2560 x 1600
■5x Tegra 2
Overall, I was extremely impressed with that NVIDIA showed. I have the whole thing captured on video, but there is no way that will be going up tonight on my hotel´s WiFi connection.
Availability
The most shocking part of the event came when NVIDIA shared the availability for Kal-El. The chips are sampling now and we should see them in tablets by August and smartphones will arrive by Christmas (confirming an earlier prediction of mine).
Michael Rayfield, General Manager of Mobile of NVIDIA´s mobile business unit, hinted at this when we previously spoke with him at CES saying, ”It will be pretty quick. I believe I will have my next generation Tegra in production probably before my competitors have their dual-core in production. And so that talks a lot about velocity.”
NVIDIA´s aggressive release schedule is still shocking because the other semiconductor companies are not expected to have comparable chips until the second half of 2012.
Imagine the possibilities
If you thought the Atrix 4G was an innovative product, just wait till you see what the mobile device manufactures dream up for Kal-El.
I´ll go out on a limb and predict that Google will select Tegra 3 as the lead platform for the next major Android release (Jelly bean?) and slap it in their Nexus 3 this Christmas. Maybe my dream handset with Android, Chrome OS, and Google TV on a single device will actually become a reality.
Reactions
This is such huge breaking news that I am still trying to comprehend how it will change the mobile industry. I´m hitting publish now, but I will continue to update this post throughout the night. We would love to hear what you think in the mean time.
The iPad 2 and all other tablets will be outdated by August if they really do release these Quad cores. Engadget has a video of the Quad-Core in action so it must mean its pretty much ready to go. They also say its more battery efficient as well.
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Last edited by CGFebTSX04; 02-15-2011 at 06:27 PM.
#2021
Safety Car
Another vid on the Quad-Core:
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Excited about this.
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Excited about this.
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Release date not mentioned yet for US. But I believe international release is in May or so.
Lots of video chat options and all can work on Wifi AND 3G.
Yahoo Messenger - (Works with MT4G, and EVO only I believe)
Fring
Tango
Qik
Skype Video will be coming to Verizon soon
Lots of video chat options and all can work on Wifi AND 3G.
Yahoo Messenger - (Works with MT4G, and EVO only I believe)
Fring
Tango
Qik
Skype Video will be coming to Verizon soon
![Nod](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif)
facetime only works with iPhone, iPod and Mac.
but 3rd party video apps should work across platforms, (i think)
#2025
Three Wheelin'
Since I updated to 2.2 on my Captivate the GPS is on when I was fooling around with the camera. Also not able to adjust the exposure before I updated too
Last edited by eccjak; 02-15-2011 at 10:07 PM.
#2026
Safety Car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q_JuJmNat8
#2027
Safety Car
CyanogenMod 7 RC1 is out for the Nexus One, MT4G, and Evo 4G. Still waiting for a stable build for the Galaxy S before I start flashing.
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanog...-4g-and-evo-4g
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanog...-4g-and-evo-4g
#2028
Three Wheelin'
Thanks CGFebTSX04, I've have spent some time on xda and android forums just seeing what people have done to their phones. It never ends to amaze me what you can do with the Android phones.
#2029
Safety Car
Yeah the people at XDA are amazing. Having a flashing itch at the moment so I'm currently flashing a new custom ROM. Its been two weeks since I flashed one. Haha. Looking forward to a stable MIUI and CM7 for the Galaxy S. Looks like its not too far off.
#2030
Senior Moderator
I'm narrowing down to the white colored myTough 4G. Anyone have a white cell phone? I'm kind of tired carrying around a dark colored cell phone. Does white phones get dirty/scuffed easily?
#2032
Banned
I have a rubber case on mine so if it were white, you would know. I got blk. White makes it diminished to a your teen daughters phone. Just not business enough looking to me.
#2033
NSFA Alert!!!
not safe for android...
Huge phones at next click... beware!
http://www.bestbuyon.com/computer-in...m_term=tablets
not safe for android...
Huge phones at next click... beware!
http://www.bestbuyon.com/computer-in...m_term=tablets
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
#2034
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Gordon Gekko!
#2035
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Agreed. I had the bronze G1 when it came out and it was understated, then I got the red Slide and it would stand out too much at work, looked like a toy. Im loving the Nexus S though.
#2036
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by DarkSithCL
a friend at work has the White EVO and she said it hers hasnt given her any special problems... the only thing she did note, was that the clear protector that she had on the back started to yellow, so she took it off...
#2039
I disagree with unanimity
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NSFA Alert!!!
not safe for android...
Huge phones at next click... beware!
http://www.bestbuyon.com/computer-in...m_term=tablets
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
not safe for android...
Huge phones at next click... beware!
http://www.bestbuyon.com/computer-in...m_term=tablets
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
LOL! I had the $249 Motorola on slide 10. In fact, it's still in my junk drawer....I break it out once in a while to compare its size to my current phone. The thing is massive!