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Old 11-09-2012, 08:37 PM
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Motorola is pushing Jelly Bean update to Razr M.

We know it’s important for many of you to get the latest Android software upgrades onto your phones as quickly as possible. With that in mind, we’re also introducing Test Drive, a new program that will allow consumers to take our major software upgrades for a trial run and provide valuable feedback before we launch the upgrade publicly. Starting with Android 4.2, the next iteration of Jelly Bean, we will release a preview of our software to a few hundred consumers that sign up for Test Drive. More details on how to sign-up and participate will be announced on the blog soon.

Going forward, we are going to focus our efforts so that we can deliver consistently high quality experiences to our users. Unfortunately that means not all phones will be getting upgrades. If you own a device that’s not getting upgraded, we’ve created the Motorola trade up program. The trade up program gives you $100 back on a new Motorola smartphone when you trade-in your old one–so you don’t have to miss out on Jelly Bean. For qualifying devices and more details, check out Motorola.com/tradeup.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11...rola-software/

This would make them the first in the US to release a Jelly Bean update and the phone just came out two months ago. Looks like Motorola is streamlining their update process as expected and a good sign of updating their phones on time. They're also starting to send out test builds for 4.2 if you sign up with them.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
That's why I asked cause if I can buy it for $300, I'd rather do that than re-up.
$200 for 16gb. So you'd save $150.

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Just thought i'd share this video of Samsung GS3 Androind 4.04 vs 4.1. 4.1 has a nice speed advantage. I cant wait for my EVO 4G LTE to get 4.1/4.2 withe Sense 4.x.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=V5E5revikUU
Thats the Galaxy nexus dude, showed this back at the I/O i think.

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The Nokia Lumia 920 looks so goooooood!

Really wished it had Android on it, but WP8 is quite enticing. Not to mention the 920's camera in low light beats every single thing out there right now. It makes taking pictures in the dark look like you took that picture in the day.


the 920 is really really appealing. The only thing its missing is androids ecosystem for me haha. Google works best with android, and i rely on google a lot as do most of us. Plus i have paid apps and such so i dont wanna lose all of them haha.

I wish one day we get a nexus device to rival those that are top of the industry like the iphone 5 and 920.
Old 11-10-2012, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90


the 920 is really really appealing. The only thing its missing is androids ecosystem for me haha. Google works best with android, and i rely on google a lot as do most of us. Plus i have paid apps and such so i dont wanna lose all of them haha.

I wish one day we get a nexus device to rival those that are top of the industry like the iphone 5 and 920.
Yeah, the Lumia 920 looks good. WP8 has a good chance of increasing their market share and maybe even take second place after Android if they keep playing their cards right (price and increasing app ecosystem). iOS needs to adapt or else they'll be left behind which is maybe why Scott Forstall was given the boot. Their UI has become stale and people are getting tired or it and are looking elsewhere.

The live tiles of WP8 still don't appeal to me and the lack of a notification center would drive me crazy although I hear it is coming. Also, I'm not really that deep into the Microsoft ecosystem as far as their services go which is another problem although I guess that could change if I start using Windows 8 on my laptop? Maybe if they open their integration out to other services then I'd seriously consider it and when their app ecosystem has grown?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...-in-the-works/
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So more evidence points to the unification of Google Voice, Messenger, GTalk and Hangouts are on the way:

"2013 will be the year of +Google+!"
Tuesday I had a breakfast session with +Bradley Horowitz. The event was hosted at +Google Nederland. As I wrote a Dutch article for +Dutchcowboys about it I promised that I would be making a summary and even attach my notes. Well, here it is!

- Currently no ads are displayed. No plans for the near future but all that can of course change
- A social networking site is not the best place to display advertisement
- Twitter and Facebook can only display ads on the social networking site
- Google uses the data collected via Google+ to target ads better on the different Google services
- Google+ helped Google remove the silos of all the different products
- A +1 for an add can lead to a higher CTR
- Not opening the API was a well thought through decision
- The API will be opened in the future (how far and when... no news)
- To ensure growth is organic, the API remained close. Users had to use Google+ instead of a 3rd party client
- You want to keep a conversation as authentic as possible. Spraying your update across multiple networks at once will not help you keep the conversation authentic
- Mobile is very important
- Half of the traffic comes from the mobile clients
- No new usage figures were shared (latest: Sept 17th: https://plus.google.com/+ArvidBux/posts/hn2upSwLVmN )
- Only certain numbers are shared every time as usage numbers are linked to Google's financial data. They can have an impact on the stock and earnings/revenue estimates
- Once Google publishes data once, they have to publish it every year
- Also for services like YouTube or Gmail not all figures are released
- 3rd parties can't measure it all as they don't have access to the real usage data. Besides that they don't measure mobile which is half of the traffic at Google+
- A merge between Voice, Google Talk, Hangouts and Messenger is on the roadmap
- Google News saw some features from Google+. Expect to see some Google News features in Google+
- Removing the silos for business users and making it easier for them to use Google products
- Only 20% of the planned features for Google+ have been rolled out
"+Bradley Horowitz: 2013 will be the year of +Google+!"

The Dutch article over at +Dutchcowboys:
http://www.dutchcowboys.nl/googleplus/26428
https://plus.google.com/+ArvidBux/posts/PYaoYUjo4iB

Imagine if Android started integrating Google Voice completely for free phone calls via Google Voice. No setup, no fuss just use Google Voice to make and receive phone calls in Android. This would make the carriers dumb pipes for data as they should be. You wouldn't need to pay for minutes just for data access which is kinda what the Straight Talk for T-Mobile is doing now (gives you only 100 minutes with unlimited data up to 5GB for $30).

Then again, we don't know for sure how long Google Voice calling will remain free and the carriers would be quite pissed at it. With that said, they are straying away from carriers so it may become a reality as seen with the Nexus 4. It could probably be disabled at the carrier level if it does happen. I guess I have to keep dreaming until it happens.
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One Free Episode of MythBusters on Play Store

https://play.google.com/store/tv/sho...WBkvo27Ns&gdid

If that doesn't take you to Season 8, just navigate to it. Its the last episode, 11, MythBusters Top 25 Moments. If you guys haven't tried out the Play Store Videos then this is a good free episode to try it out with. Its an hour and a half long and its MythBusters.
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Droid DNA is coming out to Verizon the same day the Nexus launches. Anyone getting it?

http://www.slashgear.com/verizon-dro...ured-11256498/

This is the same 5-inch HTC Phone that's supposed to have a 1080p display with a 440+ PPI screen that came out to Japan a few weeks. Specs similar to the Nexus so porting CM and AOSP builds should be a little bit easier as long as Verizon doesn't lock the bootloader.

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You already know Verizon will lock it lol. I wonder if a variation will go to AT&T under the moniker: HTC One X++

Nexus 4 or Lumia 920!
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Droid DNA is coming out to Verizon the same day the Nexus launches. Anyone getting it?

http://www.slashgear.com/verizon-dro...ured-11256498/

This is the same 5-inch HTC Phone that's supposed to have a 1080p display with a 440+ PPI screen that came out to Japan a few weeks. Specs similar to the Nexus so porting CM and AOSP builds should be a little bit easier as long as Verizon doesn't lock the bootloader.

http://youtu.be/Uj4bjtNg2SI
I really like this phone but won't be buying into it on the initial launch. I am going to wait for some reviews. I for one am skeptical of the built in battery route that these phones are taken. I am worried this phone could be the Thunderbolt 2 as far as battery life since they are playing with the first 1080p screen along with LTE.

I switch batteries on a regular basis and have with every phone since my Verizon VX6800 HTC WinMo phone. It is just something I am used too. Might not be every day but I use a second battery at least 2-3 times a week. I don't like the thought of being stranded with a dead phone. Now I know I can get one of those rechargeable battery packs so I can charge on the go but keeping that in my pocket along with a cable will be a lot compared to just an extra battery.

Spec wise though it is still my favorite upcoming phone. I like it better than the Note2 cause 5in seems just right. 5.5 seems a bit large to me. Although SD slot and removable battery make it nice.
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Lots of good reviews out there on the device. It'll come down to how big is too big for your and your wife. If you don't use the phone to talk that much then its an excellent device as its quite huge to put next to your ear. Easily solved with a bluetooth headset but could be an inconvenience. Also, Verizon is pasting its logo onto the home button for whatever reason. Some people are selling stickers to go over it. Lol.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/10...one-to-launch/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-ALUMIN...-/121002308301

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Thanks for the feedback man.

We both don't really talk on the phone much. But we do web surfing A LOT.

So, sounds like a winner for us!

Man, gotta spend $299 x 2 for both of us. lol I'm sure it's worth it though.

Thanks again.
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The expected OTA for the Nexus 4 and 10 devices just came out. I hope AOSP gets updated soon.

For the time being the Nexus 10 has but four widgets to choose from: Gmail, Calendar, Sound Search, and the digital clock. The 4 has all those same widgets, as well as one for messaging.

The widgets work just like homescreens - after you add a new widgets, just swipe through the lockscreen to access it. Tapping the widget itself will then highlight the unlock button - if you unlock the device while in this "mode," then you'll jump directly into the selected application. For example, if you highlight the Gmail widgets and then unlock the device, it will go straight into the Gmail app.
The other new feature is specific the Nexus 10: multiple user accounts. This feature has been a long time coming and will finally make it possible for a single family to easily share one tablet.
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Also, the Nexus 4 seems to be dropping at midnight PST tonight in the US. It already came out in Australia and the 16 GB sold out within 20 minutes. I hope they have enough stock to follow through:

4b9tR.jpg

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Nexus 4 Bumpers are also up on the Play Store. Probably available the same time as the phone releases. $19.99 though which is a little high up there for a piece of rubber. It does look nice though:

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I wish more colors would be available but then again eBay and the other markets will probably have that covered and far cheaper.

https://play.google.com/store/device...re=accessories
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Brian Klug from Anandtech has some more pics of the new Lockscreen:

<a href="http://twitpic.com/bcrh1j" title="This is going to take some getting used to. Center just unloc... on Twitpic"><img src="http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/bcrh1j.png" width="150" height="150" alt="This is going to take some getting used to. Center just unloc... on Twitpic"></a> <a href="http://twitpic.com/bcrh8i" title="Share photos on twitter with Twitpic"><img src="http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/bcrh8i.png" width="150" height="150" alt="Share photos on twitter with Twitpic"></a> <a href="http://twitpic.com/bcrh84" title="Share photos on twitter with Twitpic"><img src="http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/bcrh84.png" width="150" height="150" alt="Share photos on twitter with Twitpic"></a>


It looks like the center ring only unlocks now. To get to Google Now, you have to swipe up like you would normally do when the phone is unlocked from the bottom of the screen. To get to the camera you swipe from the right side and to get to the widgets you slide from the left.
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I love bumpers, I wish they had them for the GNex

and on 4.2 rolling out soon
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Someone just got the OTA for a Galaxy Nexus:

https://plus.google.com/102955005935...ts/8xFpGjVN5fZ

Not sure if he's trolling but it looks legit. It looks like 4.2 OTA is coming out already? Gonna keep checking on my Nexus 7 since its on stock rooted. I hope someone grabs the link for the download.
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Android 4.2 OTA GSM Takju Nexus

Straight from Google's Servers:

http://android.clients.google.com/pa...K.e587de13.zip

You must be on full stock JZO54K before applying this update! Also only on Takju GSM Nexus NOT Yakju.

MD5 sum: 06D0D82520C8AB43124C63F3BB147F3D

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Currently backuping up my phone and installing stock then flashing. Gonna try to see if root also works. Lol.
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Straight from Google's Servers:

http://android.clients.google.com/pa...K.e587de13.zip

You must be on full stock JZO54K before applying this update! Also only on Takju GSM Nexus NOT Yakju.

MD5 sum: 06D0D82520C8AB43124C63F3BB147F3D
I forget, how do you know what version you have again?
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I forget, how do you know what version you have again?
You can check in Google Maps it seems. GMaps --> Settings --> About --> Device

I believe if its from the Play Store its Takju. If its from outside the Play Store, its Yakju. Also, you could always switch between the two using the Google Factory images.

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images



A guide how to flash back to stock using fastboot (Note this is for the Nexus 7 but the procedure codes are the same. Just replace the Nexus 7 image with the Galaxy Nexus Takju image)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1907796

^Note that the "-w" will Wipe everything on your device. Backup everything out of your phone to a computer.

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damn i'm really hoping i have an upgrade available!!! Then i can get my phone!!! If not then its sad times for me
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Guide on how to flash the OTA manually:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1419170


Check out the second post. Just flashed it on my phone. Gonna see if root will work as well. Now on the quest to find 4.2 on my Nexus 7.
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
damn i'm really hoping i have an upgrade available!!! Then i can get my phone!!! If not then its sad times for me
Its only a few more dollars even if you get it off contract! Lol. Well worth it in the long run.
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well my dad is paying for it so his choice, and we have a family plan, i'm not on my own. So again i dont see how its worth it haha
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well my dad is paying for it so his choice, and we have a family plan, i'm not on my own. So again i dont see how its worth it haha
Lol. Well just in case you guys decide to move to another carrier? Haha. And 4.2 is flashed on my Nexus. Patching the system apps took a while and that was a clean install.
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Lol. Well just in case you guys decide to move to another carrier? Haha. And 4.2 is flashed on my Nexus. Patching the system apps took a while and that was a clean install.
i dont think we will be, who knows haha doesnt matter to me right now cause i'm not paying lol when the time comes for me to pay for me then i shall see, till then i worry about school

anyway... go to the camera app!! see how you like it
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Whoa the lockscreen is very different. Its actually pretty awesome...I need to flash superuser real quick before I start customizing this. And my screen is yellow tinted now that I'm not running Franco's kernel.
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so is the sale on the play store supposed to open at midnight pacific time?
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Whoa the lockscreen is very different. Its actually pretty awesome...I need to flash superuser real quick before I start customizing this. And my screen is yellow tinted now that I'm not running Franco's kernel.
eek thats my only thing im scared of for the N4, haha washed out colors. Whats with googles software and having those colors??? I dont get it...
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
so is the sale on the play store supposed to open at midnight pacific time?
According to everyone online yes. You can install a Chrome plugin to have it refresh for you automatically:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...bpbhjfkmncekmn

Just FYI, there's a lot of interest out there and I can see this being sold out immediately. Slickdeals has its eye on this and they will be all over the phone so its probably going to be sold out for a few weeks if you don't get on it.
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
eek thats my only thing im scared of for the N4, haha washed out colors. Whats with googles software and having those colors??? I dont get it...
Well its the nature of the AMOLED screen. Not sure how it is with the IPS Screens but its probably better.

SuperSU is flashed and I am rooted Time to play:

http://download.chainfire.eu/267/Sup...erSU-v0.97.zip

Protip for 4.2: Developer settings is now hidden. You have to tap the Build Number 7 times before it appears.
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well i wont be getting it from the play store, rather the tmobile store

i'm more worried about being eligible for the upgrade, only way my dad will get me the phone haha
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Android 4.2 Lockscreen on Nexus 4:



Multi-User Accounts on Nexus 10:


I wonder if the Nexus 7 will get Multi-User Accounts.
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Looks like the Nexus 4 Play Store release is officially at 9 AM PST. Lots of people F5 and nothing showed up. Lol.

4.2 has some new transition animations like the Recent button when you're in an app. It minimizes into the window and a few other touches here and there. So far so good with root.
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haha, supposedly google ships as soon as you order, assuming you get the initial batch.
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Anandtech's Review of the Nexus 4 is finally up. He was waiting for the OTA which fixed quite a few bugs that he had to rewrite certain parts of his review:

You can go back and read what I've written about the Nexus 4 hardware — in a word it's superb. In-hand feel is awesome thanks to the rubber ring running around the perimeter of the Nexus 4, and build quality is also very good. I've fully disassembled my Nexus 4 three times and put it together without issue, and the Nexus 4 has taken a few trips to the floor (my fault) without any adverse effects.

Finally, there's also the matter of price. For $299 you can get the latest and greatest hardware and 8 GB of storage, and for $349 you can get double that storage with 16 GB (12.92 GB usable). Both are fully unlocked and carrier-agnostic, and at those prices the Nexus 4 pretty much blows the doors off of any other unlocked or out of contract smartphones, which usually end up being priced at around $600 or more.

If you're an Android enthusiast, the Nexus 4 is obviously the phone to have right now. The combination of APQ8064 and MDM9x15 is excellent in spite of some unfortunate thermal throttling, and we'll be seeing many more Fusion 3 based devices in time at prices well above the Nexus 4 out of contract. At a fundamental level there is quite literally no better vehicle out there for Google to communicate its smartphone platform via than the yearly Nexus refresh. On its own, the Nexus 4 would otherwise be phenomenally great hardware. As a Nexus, it's a level even beyond that.

Google has come an exceptionally long way since that first Nexus One.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/g...nexus-4-review

Looks like they loved it and a great piece of kit for $300-$350 unlocked. This thing has sold out in the other countries within minutes so it looks like Google and LG has a winner. Google's Play Store kept crashing from everyone trying to grab one from what I'm reading. I won't be surprised if it goes down again when it releases at 9 today for the US.
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I really want to get one but I think I'll save myself the headache, heartache, and stress of fighting to get one over the course of 30 seconds.

I have a sinking feeling that the reason it sold out in EU and Aus so fast has more to do with lack of supply more than anything...

Probably wait a few months for the 32gb version.
Old 11-13-2012, 11:40 AM
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So it looks like Google's Nexus inventory got demolished as well within a few minutes of release. I hope they'll have enough stock come next month. At least 4.2 is being pushed to AOSP now so custom Roms and kernels should be up soon. Factory images for Nexus 10, 7, 4, and Galaxy Nexus Takju are up:

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

If you can't wait for the OTA or want to start clean.
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i hope theres no line at tmobile cause i'm gonna try and go tomorrow. I dunno how its gonna even work cause online it says i'm not an authorized user, and i think my dad may have made me one.
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It's crazy how even the bumper cases are sold out!
Old 11-13-2012, 12:20 PM
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haha really??

theres a lot of people complaining about the play store when it was live.


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