NBA: 2011-2012 Season News and Discussion Thread
05-21-2012, 09:30 AM
#1961
Kind of bugs me that Barkley & them have already completely thrown out the Lakers, even though it does look that way.
But, it's not like the Lakers are coming from a 0-3 deficit. 1-3 comebacks have been done before. It was done in '06 & '03 and the Lakers have been one of those teams, bar that it was in 1970.
But, it's not like the Lakers are coming from a 0-3 deficit. 1-3 comebacks have been done before. It was done in '06 & '03 and the Lakers have been one of those teams, bar that it was in 1970.
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
05-21-2012, 09:45 AM
#1962
Barkley never chooses the Lakers. He chose them early on in the series, but he jumped ship. I used to think he had something against the Lakers (I think he kinda does) but I think he's more of an underdog lover....
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
No disrespect to your fan heart or evaluation to what u see... Just what I see is what EVERYONE ELSE SEES also. I could be wrong but doubt it...
lol JK
05-21-2012, 10:01 AM
#1963
Well, now you're splitting hairs, lol. No disrespect taken. Still stand by my assessment though...
05-21-2012, 11:26 AM
#1965
Barkley never chooses the Lakers. He chose them early on in the series, but he jumped ship. I used to think he had something against the Lakers (I think he kinda does) but I think he's more of an underdog lover....
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
05-21-2012, 11:41 AM
#1966
OKC is a good team and so are the Lakers but the differences are the Lakers have a new system and coaching staff (one that isn't very good) but to give them the benefit of the doubt they haven't had as much time as they would had this been a regular season. OKC on the other hand has had the same coaching staff and same system for the last 3-4 years. I wouldn't say that they are Kryptonite to the Lakers because if they were then the last 3 games wouldn't have even been so close or they probably would have swept the Lakers.
05-21-2012, 12:15 PM
#1967
OKC is a good team and so are the Lakers but the differences are the Lakers have a new system and coaching staff (one that isn't very good) but to give them the benefit of the doubt they haven't had as much time as they would had this been a regular season. OKC on the other hand has had the same coaching staff and same system for the last 3-4 years. I wouldn't say that they are Kryptonite to the Lakers because if they were then the last 3 games wouldn't have even been so close or they probably would have swept the Lakers.
...............and forever STOP saying KOBE BRYANT's name with freaking MICHAEL "The BADDEST MUTHAFUCKER" JORDAN! ~ Gosh I hate that! Kobe is Kobe, one of the GREATEST! But not to be compared to THE GREATEST...(or arguably top 2-3 when Kobe falls possibly 4-5 or even 6 ALL TIME Greatest)
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05-21-2012, 12:34 PM
#1968
Why would you bring that up? Most of us here have gotten that past that along time ago.
Jordan is great. But he's a great amongst great. Let's not disrespect Kareem, Dr. J, The Big O, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Bill Russell, Jerry West, Wilt. All of them have legit arguments to the throne. Just because people haven't seen them play, or didn't have a huge shoe contract doesn't mean they weren't great or better.
let's leave Kobe alone already and enjoy the ride.
Jordan is great. But he's a great amongst great. Let's not disrespect Kareem, Dr. J, The Big O, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Bill Russell, Jerry West, Wilt. All of them have legit arguments to the throne. Just because people haven't seen them play, or didn't have a huge shoe contract doesn't mean they weren't great or better.
let's leave Kobe alone already and enjoy the ride.
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05-21-2012, 01:04 PM
#1969
Why would you bring that up? Most of us here have gotten that past that along time ago.
Jordan is great. But he's a great amongst great. Let's not disrespect Kareem, Dr. J, The Big O, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Bill Russell, Jerry West, Wilt. All of them have legit arguments to the throne. Just because people haven't seen them play, or didn't have a huge shoe contract doesn't mean they weren't great or better.
let's leave Kobe alone already and enjoy the ride.
Jordan is great. But he's a great amongst great. Let's not disrespect Kareem, Dr. J, The Big O, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Bill Russell, Jerry West, Wilt. All of them have legit arguments to the throne. Just because people haven't seen them play, or didn't have a huge shoe contract doesn't mean they weren't great or better.
let's leave Kobe alone already and enjoy the ride.
IDK anyone here...But just saying IN GENERAL how even ESPN and media of all sorts compare or bring up within the same sentence their 2 names mainly, Kobe compared to MJ... No one elses name u mentioned above...Am I correct?
05-21-2012, 01:22 PM
#1970
I don't see what's wrong with making the comparison then. Its not as much as a travesty as its made out to be. There is precedent for the comparison. Jordan and Dr. J were always compared early on, as they should have been.
In anything, comparisons with most recent previous generations will be made until forever. Fact is, Jordan isn't incomparable as he's made out to be by anyone 35 and younger. If they don't compare 6'6 shooting guard Michael Jordan to a 6'7" shooting guard that's also a fiery competitor, with multiple championships, and a knack for making creative, acrobatic shots in game, then who are they going to compare him to?
Shaq was compared to Wilt, Lebron to Jordan and Magic, Nowitzki to Bird, etc. It just happens.
Only Larry Bird and to a lesser degree, Magic Johnson were seen as unique and unprecedented. Magic had the Big O to be compared to somewhat, but Oscar Robertson was nowhere near as paradigm shifting or charismatic as Magic.
In anything, comparisons with most recent previous generations will be made until forever. Fact is, Jordan isn't incomparable as he's made out to be by anyone 35 and younger. If they don't compare 6'6 shooting guard Michael Jordan to a 6'7" shooting guard that's also a fiery competitor, with multiple championships, and a knack for making creative, acrobatic shots in game, then who are they going to compare him to?
Shaq was compared to Wilt, Lebron to Jordan and Magic, Nowitzki to Bird, etc. It just happens.
Only Larry Bird and to a lesser degree, Magic Johnson were seen as unique and unprecedented. Magic had the Big O to be compared to somewhat, but Oscar Robertson was nowhere near as paradigm shifting or charismatic as Magic.
05-21-2012, 01:34 PM
#1971
to your Comparison I guess is not my argument and my bad for wording it wrong. My argument is more to where "MEDIA" and followers alike say KOBE will surpass MJ before his career is through in matching # of rings and all other alike statistical ways.... Eh Eh No! (FACT!) < Eve Magic agreed to that nonsense. LOL!
Last edited by JayVee; 05-21-2012 at 01:40 PM.
05-21-2012, 01:41 PM
#1972
No problem here., its no big, brotha....
I just don't think Jordan is as incomparable as people make him out to be. Still the best shooting guard ever, but greatest ever? Maybe the talking heads say he's the best nowadays because they are the ones that once played him. However, I distinctly remember hearing guys before the Jordan era, that played against the players I mentioned, saying they were the best ever.
I guess if you play the best ever, its a bit of an ego boost that your generation is the best.
BTW, Kobe's not even the best Laker, IMO. Kobe's still great, though.
, its no big, brotha....I just don't think Jordan is as incomparable as people make him out to be. Still the best shooting guard ever, but greatest ever? Maybe the talking heads say he's the best nowadays because they are the ones that once played him. However, I distinctly remember hearing guys before the Jordan era, that played against the players I mentioned, saying they were the best ever.
I guess if you play the best ever, its a bit of an ego boost that your generation is the best.
BTW, Kobe's not even the best Laker, IMO. Kobe's still great, though.
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05-21-2012, 01:52 PM
#1974
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in class, i googled Former NBA players where are they at now and here is what i found. http://blog.shamsports.com/2011/04/w...okkeeping.html
Desmond Mason - Desmond Mason now works in a bank. Could imagine him as a teller lol.
05-21-2012, 02:03 PM
#1975
shandon anderson wearing skirts....
05-21-2012, 02:11 PM
#1977
If I had to start a team my first pick would be Magic Johnson over any oher player in the history of the NBA because that guy is a winner at every stage of his basketball career, he could play all positions if needed and he has transitioned that winning attitude to his business career.
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05-21-2012, 03:58 PM
#1978
Suzuka Master
^ sounds like the medias bandwagon expectations. = Unrealistic expectations. LeHeat are GOOD and can even be the best in the league. I truly feel LJ and DW need more chemistry. CONSISTENT CHEMISTRY and not these spurts of ESPN hi-lights every other week of SUPERMEN plays and blowing out teams.
at the same time...Don't forget about WESTBROOK. Dude is sick! And has been UNSTOPPABLE these series, PERIOD! Best Duo in the NBA! The league is in trouble when u have a 2 guys on one team who each score 22-25pts avg... And in this last game 30+pts each. (Never done since the late 90s with Jordan/Pipen Batman and Robin Duo...) Very impressive! Can't wait for SPURS vs OKC... Assumed to be the best CONF. Championship in a long time.
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05-21-2012, 05:45 PM
#1979
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Thread Starter
Magic clean house. Smith and Van Gundy are out. Congrats, Howard...you get your way.
05-21-2012, 06:12 PM
#1982
Suzuka Master
Werd. Hey J, what do you think about Howard to MIA for Wade and Bosh? I read some yahoo article mentioning trade and that guy was on crck, but then I thought about LBJ and Howard together and how devastating that inside-outside game would be.
05-21-2012, 06:14 PM
#1983
Barkley never chooses the Lakers. He chose them early on in the series, but he jumped ship. I used to think he had something against the Lakers (I think he kinda does) but I think he's more of an underdog lover....
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
FWIW, the series could have EASILY been 3-1 Lakers. Boneheaded plays at the end of the game are what cost the Lakers.
The Lakers have essentially played 46 minutes of good basketball in 2 of the 3 games they have lost.
The narrative was that the Lakers were gonna get their behinds kicked. However, it really hasn't been that bad except for game 1.
I honestly am not sure OKC will get a Game 7 out of San Antonio. The Texas boys are just way too experienced & will know exactly how to handle Harden & Westbrook. In fact, because Westbrook is such a hot head, I won't be surprised if he gets himself thrown out while San Antonio walks away with a technical in any altercation.
Spurs in 6 at best.
Last edited by Rick_TL-S; 05-21-2012 at 06:16 PM.
05-21-2012, 06:56 PM
#1986
failhard.
I don't wanna admit it, but if this keeps up .. it seems like Philly might get an "easy" ride to the ECFs, with both their opponents having injuries to such important players. There's Rose, Noah, Bradley, Green, Wilcox, O'Neal all out; then there's Deng, Hamilton, Pierce, Allen, Stiemsma playing through their injuries. I really hope Boston can win this series, but right now, it just doesn't look good.
At least KG is keeping the C's alive. I love that man.
At least KG is keeping the C's alive. I love that man.
05-21-2012, 07:06 PM
#1987
Bad move.
05-21-2012, 08:58 PM
#1988
I honestly am not sure OKC will get a Game 7 out of San Antonio. The Texas boys are just way too experienced & will know exactly how to handle Harden & Westbrook. In fact, because Westbrook is such a hot head, I won't be surprised if he gets himself thrown out while San Antonio walks away with a technical in any altercation.
05-21-2012, 10:28 PM
#1989
Suzuka Master
damn such an intense game right now!!!
05-21-2012, 10:44 PM
#1990
failhard.
Damn, this was quick. This was barely 1.5 quarters ago.
Anyway, as an OKC fan .. this was such a bullshit call. There's this and the refs handing Kobe's 3rd foul in the 1st to Jordan Hill instead. Horribad officiating here.
05-21-2012, 10:54 PM
#1991
I shoot people
you gotta feel good for Derek Fisher tho 
05-21-2012, 11:22 PM
#1992
I shoot people
so now I have to choose to team to root for (since both LA teams are out, not that they really had a chance)...
I'm going to go with Thunder (also because Kevin Durant is a Longhorn )
and it's cool... we saw a little love there between Harden and MWP
I'm going to go with Thunder (also because Kevin Durant is a Longhorn
)and it's cool... we saw a little love there between Harden and MWP
05-21-2012, 11:24 PM
#1994
cool for D. fish. He was still done wrong by the Lakers. Westbrook is one cocky SOB, but he's from LA, which is cool. Harden is from LA and from ASU, so I'm cool with him continuing as well. Kudos to them.
I'm cool with the Lakers losing. This season just flat-out started wrong, and the Lakers have been basically scrambling to recover from the weirdness of the Cp3 transaction.
I thnk Pau's gone, but he's got tons of trade value. So its important they parlay this into something good.
Its time to load up for next years full season.
Maybe me, Yum, and the other guys can start an 2012 offseason thread already, lol...the gone fishing thread...
I'm cool with the Lakers losing. This season just flat-out started wrong, and the Lakers have been basically scrambling to recover from the weirdness of the Cp3 transaction.
I thnk Pau's gone, but he's got tons of trade value. So its important they parlay this into something good.
Its time to load up for next years full season.
Maybe me, Yum, and the other guys can start an 2012 offseason thread already, lol...the gone fishing thread...
05-21-2012, 11:33 PM
#1995
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
^ I will start the 2013 season. If the early prognosis for D-Rose sticks, the guy's going to be out for the majority of next season. And who knows if the Bulls will be in the playoffs?
Besides, the LeHeat are gonna win next year's Title anyhow.
Besides, the LeHeat are gonna win next year's Title anyhow.
05-21-2012, 11:34 PM
#1996
'gonna win'? You're slipping Yum, they've already won.
You are such a hater.
You are such a hater.
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05-21-2012, 11:38 PM
#1997
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05-21-2012, 11:48 PM
#1999
I shoot people
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05-21-2012, 11:53 PM
#2000
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Thread Starter
So far, the West still looks to go through San Antonio.
The Title? Of course, LeMiami.
The Title? Of course, LeMiami.