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10-03-2012 | 03:14 PM
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From: ShitsBurgh
Craig Adams, the Penguins’ NHLPA representative, was in New York for last weekend’s labor negotiations.
He wishes he were still there.
“We asked the league to continue the meeting into Monday,” Adams said. “They said they couldn’t. The league wasn’t interested, I guess. They said they needed to do internal stuff. Hopefully we’ll meet again soon.”
Adams’ tone has clearly become more somber since the league locked players out Sept. 15. It took the sides almost three weeks to meet following their previous negotiation session Sept. 12, and Adams had little positive to report from three meetings over the weekend.
“It’s very frustrating right now,” he said. “We’re not making a lot of progress.”
Adams did acknowledge that minor agreements have been made.
Still, that the sides couldn’t agree to even discuss the core financial issues — and make no mistake, the division of future league revenues is at the heart of this debate — is troubling to Adams.
“I don’t know who suggested it to who that we only discuss the smaller things,” Adams said. “But, of course, both sides know it needs to get done at some point and that we need to talk about the big issues.”
Adams said the NHL and NHLPA came to some agreements, namely on drug testing, player health and player safety. But even those agreements are not set in stone.
“Nothing’s agreed upon until everything is agreed upon,” Adams said. “That’s just the way it is.”
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr have not agreed to any future meetings.
Adams said the NHLPA is hungry to negotiate a new labor agreement, but the league is essentially stalling and displaying little interesting in negotiating.
“Absolutely I feel that way,” Adams said. “I really do.”
The NHL is likely to cancel a wave of early regular-season games this week if a deal isn’t struck. With the regular season scheduled to begin in 10 days — the Penguins’ first game is scheduled Oct. 12 at home against the New York Islanders — the start of the season is almost absolutely going to be delayed.
For how long it is delayed is anyone’s guess.
That the sides aren’t scheduled to speak anytime soon is ominous in Adams’ eyes. He skated with eight teammates at Southpointe on Monday morning in an informal workout.
“We want to get this done,” he said. “But they don’t seem like they’re in a big hurry to negotiate. Frustrating. Very frustrating.”
He wishes he were still there.
“We asked the league to continue the meeting into Monday,” Adams said. “They said they couldn’t. The league wasn’t interested, I guess. They said they needed to do internal stuff. Hopefully we’ll meet again soon.”
Adams’ tone has clearly become more somber since the league locked players out Sept. 15. It took the sides almost three weeks to meet following their previous negotiation session Sept. 12, and Adams had little positive to report from three meetings over the weekend.
“It’s very frustrating right now,” he said. “We’re not making a lot of progress.”
Adams did acknowledge that minor agreements have been made.
Still, that the sides couldn’t agree to even discuss the core financial issues — and make no mistake, the division of future league revenues is at the heart of this debate — is troubling to Adams.
“I don’t know who suggested it to who that we only discuss the smaller things,” Adams said. “But, of course, both sides know it needs to get done at some point and that we need to talk about the big issues.”
Adams said the NHL and NHLPA came to some agreements, namely on drug testing, player health and player safety. But even those agreements are not set in stone.
“Nothing’s agreed upon until everything is agreed upon,” Adams said. “That’s just the way it is.”
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr have not agreed to any future meetings.
Adams said the NHLPA is hungry to negotiate a new labor agreement, but the league is essentially stalling and displaying little interesting in negotiating.
“Absolutely I feel that way,” Adams said. “I really do.”
The NHL is likely to cancel a wave of early regular-season games this week if a deal isn’t struck. With the regular season scheduled to begin in 10 days — the Penguins’ first game is scheduled Oct. 12 at home against the New York Islanders — the start of the season is almost absolutely going to be delayed.
For how long it is delayed is anyone’s guess.
That the sides aren’t scheduled to speak anytime soon is ominous in Adams’ eyes. He skated with eight teammates at Southpointe on Monday morning in an informal workout.
“We want to get this done,” he said. “But they don’t seem like they’re in a big hurry to negotiate. Frustrating. Very frustrating.”
@ season...
10-03-2012 | 05:49 PM
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Anyone read this?
Good article IMO...and of course, about Gary: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...sct=nhl_bf3_a3
Good article IMO...and of course, about Gary: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...sct=nhl_bf3_a3
10-03-2012 | 08:16 PM
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ESPN3 will be showing KHL games.
Wednesday, Oct. 3 Dynamo Moscow vs. Ak Bars
Saturday, Oct. 6 Lev vs. SKA
Sunday, Oct. 7 Slovan vs. Dynamo Moscow
Monday, Oct. 8 CSKA vs. SKA
Tuesday, Oct. 9 Lev vs. Dynamo Moscow
Wednesday, Oct. 3 Dynamo Moscow vs. Ak Bars
Saturday, Oct. 6 Lev vs. SKA
Sunday, Oct. 7 Slovan vs. Dynamo Moscow
Monday, Oct. 8 CSKA vs. SKA
Tuesday, Oct. 9 Lev vs. Dynamo Moscow
10-04-2012 | 09:22 AM
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From: ShitsBurgh
regardless if he's doing the bidding of the owners or not, it's still him making the calls, and the 3rd lockout under his watch sure doesn't reflect well on him
10-04-2012 | 09:44 AM
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10-04-2012 | 02:03 PM
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10-04-2012 | 02:45 PM
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http://www.lockoutgoogle.com/ < brought to you by the NHL
10-04-2012 | 03:55 PM
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10-05-2012 | 12:02 PM
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From: ShitsBurgh
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10-09-2012 | 06:43 PM
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Bad news for Winter Classic? NHL brass not visiting Ann Arbor
In what seems to be a dire sign for the Winter Classic, the NHL Operations Department does not have plans to visit Ann Arbor this month.
Officials from league headquarters went to Michigan Stadium in September to do logistics scouting, part of the massive preparation to hold the scheduled outdoor game between the Detroit Red Wings and Toronto Maple Leafs on Jan. 1. But with the NHL already having canceled two weeks of the regular season -- and with no progress made on tangible issues between the NHL and the NHL Players Association on a new collective bargaining agreement -- no follow-up trips are on the horizon, a person with knowledge of the situation told the Free Press today.....
Officials from league headquarters went to Michigan Stadium in September to do logistics scouting, part of the massive preparation to hold the scheduled outdoor game between the Detroit Red Wings and Toronto Maple Leafs on Jan. 1. But with the NHL already having canceled two weeks of the regular season -- and with no progress made on tangible issues between the NHL and the NHL Players Association on a new collective bargaining agreement -- no follow-up trips are on the horizon, a person with knowledge of the situation told the Free Press today.....
10-09-2012 | 06:59 PM
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10-09-2012 | 07:12 PM
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BTW, by all inside accounts, your owner is one of the "hardliners", so it doesn't shock me that the B's have the most players who've already hopped across the pond to play.
This season is gone baby gone.
10-09-2012 | 07:58 PM
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I had a glimmer of hope that it would spark a positive breakthrough before Nov.
BTW, by all inside accounts, your owner is one of the "hardliners", so it doesn't shock me that the B's have the most players who've already hopped across the pond to play.
This season is gone baby gone.
BTW, by all inside accounts, your owner is one of the "hardliners", so it doesn't shock me that the B's have the most players who've already hopped across the pond to play.
This season is gone baby gone.
He's also a 2 faced liar (at least, he may have more than 2). One of his main points of contention is 5 year contract limits, then he signs Seguin to a 6 year deal right before the lockout.
10-09-2012 | 08:04 PM
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Why does he and a few clowns get to drive the fawkin bus? Let one of the good guys get this kabuki theatre back off-broadway. Dom's boy Illach is ready to get hockey started, like NOW.
10-09-2012 | 08:36 PM
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He may own the team I love, but I've got no love for him. He used to put just enough money into the team to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs and turn a nice profit for himself. No player on the team could get paid more than Ray Bourque (unwritten rule) which kept them from signing talent to win it all.
If J.J. got struck by lightning tomorrow morning, we'd be dancing in the streets of Beantown by noon.
10-09-2012 | 08:44 PM
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While talks are scheduled this week between the NHL owners and the locked-out players, each passing day brings a chance of more cancellations. It also, apparently, brings a larger possibility of drastic action on the players' side.
NHLPA president Donald Fehr told the Toronto Star's editorial board that the longer the lockout lasts, the more unhappy the players will be with the league's salary cap system in place.
"If this goes on for an extended period of time, I don't know what [the players] are going to do," Fehr said. "But I think it's safe to say, they would be exploring all options."
However, Fehr might simply be bluffing in order to spur the owners into action. He was quick to note that the players would be willing to play with the salary cap in place ... if the owners end the lockout soon.
"If there can be an agreement in a relatively short term, which puts the pieces back together and gets the season going, I think the players can live with that," he continued.
As drastic as a move that would be for the players, it is not altogether unexpected. It had been previously reported that the players would submit a proposal to the league with a luxury tax system to replace the salary cap (even though they didn't), and a former owner tweeted back in Sept. that he expected the players to try just that.
Still, it would be a drastic step for the players to take, and one that would all but guarantee that the NHL would lose the entire season to another work stoppage, as it did in 2004-05. It took a lost season for the owners to put the salary cap in place -- would the players be willing to do the same to get it back?
NHLPA president Donald Fehr told the Toronto Star's editorial board that the longer the lockout lasts, the more unhappy the players will be with the league's salary cap system in place.
"If this goes on for an extended period of time, I don't know what [the players] are going to do," Fehr said. "But I think it's safe to say, they would be exploring all options."
However, Fehr might simply be bluffing in order to spur the owners into action. He was quick to note that the players would be willing to play with the salary cap in place ... if the owners end the lockout soon.
"If there can be an agreement in a relatively short term, which puts the pieces back together and gets the season going, I think the players can live with that," he continued.
As drastic as a move that would be for the players, it is not altogether unexpected. It had been previously reported that the players would submit a proposal to the league with a luxury tax system to replace the salary cap (even though they didn't), and a former owner tweeted back in Sept. that he expected the players to try just that.
Still, it would be a drastic step for the players to take, and one that would all but guarantee that the NHL would lose the entire season to another work stoppage, as it did in 2004-05. It took a lost season for the owners to put the salary cap in place -- would the players be willing to do the same to get it back?
Hockey Season starts tonight!! 
Stupid NHL, Stupid Count, Stupid Owners, Stupid Players.
