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Old 03-20-2012, 10:20 AM
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the mailings to season ticket holders went out along with a video from Burke and Caryle exulting what a great team they have and why you should re-up your season tickets.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Toronto Maple Leafs Playoff odds down 2.3 to 0.5%
So you're telling me there's a chance
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Ranger game was a clownzo fest.

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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
It definitely was interesting



with everything you said, the goon squad mentality has got to go, the Islanders pulled the same shit on the Pens last year. And that Koma Lucic fight was very entertaining.
Lucic and Komisarek have never gotten along very well. They have quite a history dating back to Komisarek's time with the Habs.

While we're talking about fisticuffs, the unofficial Mayor of Boston will be keeping his office for 2 more years. The best 2.2 million they ever spent.

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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Ranger game was a clownzo fest.

What was all that one in a million talk?
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Playoff Odds Update:

Toronto Maple Leafs Playoff odds down 2.3 to 0.5%
Those odds are still better than winning the lottery.
Old 03-20-2012, 11:47 AM
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As a casual observer, I think it is time to trade Phil the Thrill. Unload him on some team who needs more pop in their offense for prospects and picks.

Unless, it is Burke's idea to build the team around him. Which well, I dunno if it is a great idea esp. if a rebuild is in order again.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Unless, it is Burke's idea to build the team around him.
It wasn't a good idea 3 years ago and it isn't a good idea today.
Old 03-20-2012, 11:54 AM
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It wasn't a good idea 3 years ago and it isn't a good idea today.
It's interesting to think where the Leafs would be with Seguin/Hall instead of Kessel.

The Leafs have their first pick this year, right?
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OMG .. The things you see at hockey games nowadays!!!!! This happened at
the Sens / Leafs game last Saturday. It absolutely turned my stomach!!!

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Only a butch lesbo would own or wear a kessel jersey...
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^^ don't speak of dom that way!
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha

The Leafs have their first pick this year, right?
Yup, but I'm sure they'll get just enough points to make it a crap shoot pick..
Old 03-20-2012, 01:01 PM
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^^ don't speak of dom that way!
I burned all my Leaf gear after last nights game.
Old 03-20-2012, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Yup, but I'm sure they'll get just enough points to make it a crap shoot pick..
Fairly deep draft this year, I think. So, the Leafs have a decent shot at a pick.
Old 03-20-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Fairly deep draft this year, I think. So, the Leafs have a decent shot at a pick.
Ever the optimist aren't you. Until I'm GM they're doomed.
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Ever the optimist aren't you. Until I'm GM they're doomed.
Hey, just trying to not kick you too hard while you're suffering.
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John Tortorella fires back at Devils

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GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- The New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils have played their final game of the regular season. But the rivalry continues to blister, as Rangers coach John Tortorella fired back at Devils coach Pete DeBoer on Tuesday after practice.

When asked about DeBoer's comments following the Rangers' 4-2 win at Madison Square Garden on Monday -- DeBoer called Tortorella a "hypocrite" for objecting to his starting lineup of tough guys -- Tortorella delivered a stern, succinct reply:

"Shut up."

Tortorella was livid that DeBoer started his fourth line of fighters -- Eric Boulton, Ryan Carter and Cam Janssen -- prompting him to start his own trio of tough guys in Mike Rupp, Stu Bickel and Brandon Prust. They all dropped their gloves for an opening-faceoff line brawl.


After the game, DeBoer said Tortorella was either a "hypocrite" or had "short-term memory loss," and referenced a game back in December when Tortorella started both Rupp and Prust in New Jersey.

"I think Peter needs to jog his memory, as far as the starting lineups that I've put in in his building," said Tortorella, who started his top line of Artem Anisimov, Derek Stepan and Marian Gaborik in the Rangers' last visit to Newark, on March 6. "And really, basically just shut up. And I need to also."

"I think the situation last night was disrespectful to players, and I think we took a backwards step," Tortorella said.

Tortorella said he essentially had no choice but to answer DeBoer's lineup with a similar one; he made a last-minute adjustment to have Bickel, a bruising defenseman, take the opening faceoff with the explicit intent to fight after puck drop.

"I get put into a position when he puts a lineup out, that I'm not sure what's going to happen if I put my top players out, so I have to answer the way I need to answer. Just look at the two lineups and some of the things he's done through the games here," Tortorella said. "I don't want to coach his team here, but just shut up."


In the Rangers' 4-1 win on Dec. 20, Rupp and Janssen earned five-minute fighting majors three seconds into the first period. More mayhem ensued at 1:47 of the first, as David Clarkson of the Devils and the Rangers' Brandon Dubinsky got five-minute fighting majors and Boulton and the Rangers' Ryan Callahan earned 10-minute misconduct penalties.

Tortorella made it clear he is no pacifist -- his team leads the league with 62 fighting majors -- but has no taste for orchestrated brawls.

"Fighting's part of the game, it's a big part of the game, but it doesn't need to be manufactured," Tortorella said. "In that type of game -- [New] Jersey and the Rangers -- there was going to be fights, but it's really gotten old for me, the staged fights."

In six games between the two teams this season, a combined 22 fighting majors have been assessed. That's fine with Tortorella, as long as the fighting is warranted and not orchestrated.

But last night, he felt it was different.

"That crap at the beginning of the game, to try to manipulate it into it, I just don't think it's right for the game. I think there's enough of it and there always will be and there should be," Tortorella said, "but let the players decide."
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Does Tortorella really want us to believe that if he still put his number 1 line out there on the ice versus the Devils 4th line, that the 4th line Devils would have dropped gloves on the 1st line guys?

Come now....be serious.

Tortella played right into the Devil's hands....he knew it....and he was ok with it.

Don't try to play victim, Tortella.
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Does Tortorella really want us to believe that if he still put his number 1 line out there on the ice versus the Devils 4th line, that the 4th line Devils would have dropped gloves on the 1st line guys?

Come now....be serious.

Tortella played right into the Devil's hands....he knew it....and he was ok with it.

Don't try to play victim, Tortella.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Does Tortorella really want us to believe that if he still put his number 1 line out there on the ice versus the Devils 4th line, that the 4th line Devils would have dropped gloves on the 1st line guys?

Come now....be serious.

Tortella played right into the Devil's hands....he knew it....and he was ok with it.

Don't try to play victim, Tortella.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Does Tortorella really want us to believe that if he still put his number 1 line out there on the ice versus the Devils 4th line, that the 4th line Devils would have dropped gloves on the 1st line guys?

Come now....be serious.

Tortella played right into the Devil's hands....he knew it....and he was ok with it.

Don't try to play victim, Tortella.
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Originally Posted by black label
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I see you also caught that Tortella was talking out of both sides of his mouth.
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I see you also caught that Tortella was talking out of both sides of his mouth.
pssssssssst.

He is referring to your double post.
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Ranger game was a clownzo fest.
The first rule of clown club is you do not talk about clown club...


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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Does Tortorella really want us to believe that if he still put his number 1 line out there on the ice versus the Devils 4th line, that the 4th line Devils would have dropped gloves on the 1st line guys?

Come now....be serious.

Tortella played right into the Devil's hands....he knew it....and he was ok with it.

Don't try to play victim, Tortella.
totally agree moogy
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Pens score a TD and 2 point conversion last night
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totally agree moogy
So you are saying if a team puts their goon squad out for the first faceoff, You'd put Malkin & Crosby out and let what will be be?


I disagree totally. Fight fire with fire.
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Pens score a TD and 2 point conversion last night
The goal scoring was nice but after 6 it was such a one sided game and stopped being fun (not having a dog in the fight) I totally get enjoying it if they were my team.

Looks like the Pens are ready to go deep.
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Avs win again. Varlamov was great again as well.
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
So you are saying if a team puts their goon squad out for the first faceoff, You'd put Malkin & Crosby out and let what will be be?


I disagree totally. Fight fire with fire.
I didn't say that, I said that he played into their hands. We have plenty of other forwards we could have put out, but I doubt if we put a top line out that would play the faceoff, that you would have had all 3 forwards dropping the gloves. Torts let that happen by putting his 4th line out
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I think most managers when confronted with that extreme aggression when playing a team that has historically been aggressive would put their goons out against their goons.

I wonder if that has happened before (three fights on the drop of the puck)

Has there been any action by the league? I have not heard of any.
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I think most managers when confronted with that extreme aggression when playing a team that has historically been aggressive would put their goons out against their goons.

I wonder if that has happened before (three fights on the drop of the puck)

Has there been any action by the league? I have not heard of any.
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
I think most managers when confronted with that extreme aggression when playing a team that has historically been aggressive would put their goons out against their goons.

I wonder if that has happened before (three fights on the drop of the puck)

Has there been any action by the league? I have not heard of any.
Which is exactly why Tortella sounds like a clown when he complains about it.
He played into the Devil's hands. If he really felt the way he did, he should not have started his 4th line too.

Does he think his first line is gonna throw down?...please...all that would happen is that they would "turtle" on the ice, and the Devils would like like even bigger bunch of classless goons....but nope...Tortella played into the Devil's plan and became classless too.

Tortella should take his own advice: Shut up!
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Playoff Odds Update:
Los Angeles Kings Playoff odds up up 10.1 to 70.7%
Chicago Blackhawks Playoff odds up 0.9 to 99.4%
Toronto Maple Leafs Playoff odds down 0.4 to 0.1%
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I think most managers when confronted with that extreme aggression when playing a team that has historically been aggressive would put their goons out against their goons.

I wonder if that has happened before (three fights on the drop of the puck)

Has there been any action by the league? I have not heard of any.
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The last time we saw a trio off the face-off like lsat night was all the way back to March 22, 1996. The Montreal Canadiens and Buffalo Sabres threw down with only one second being taken off the clock. Craig Rivet and Brent Hughes wound up being the main event.
B's Dallas had 3 in 4 seconds last year but it was 3 separate fights on 3 separate faceoffs.
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