Yumcha

Gotta love these descriptive injury reports.

jupitersolo

Well NHL isn't tied to the Las Vegas betting regulations as the NFL is.

Yumcha

Hawks win! Hawks win!



Flames...

dom

Thanks. Its really a shame the city of Detroit is located on the West Coast. If only it was in the East, We could have had such a great rivalry.

Moog-Type-S

Update:

Kings: playoff odds up 1.1 to 100%

hawks: playoff odds up 8.4 to 88.2%

stars: odds down 17.6 to 19.8%

Moog-Type-S

It was very cool to be at Staples last night for the Kings SO win over the Yotes.

Playoff atmosphere to say the least!! The place was electric!

Yumcha

^ Congrats!

Moog-Type-S

Please have the Yotes or Preds be the Kings opponent in the first round!!

Fibonacci

Yummy cha~cha, why ya buggin...

Fibonacci

Crikey, I'm just thrilled we don't have to see any more of these inane percentage updates.

Yumcha

Red Wings...Just. Bring it.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Last night was such a frustrating game to watch, seemed like no one on the team came ready to play.

At this point it would most likely be better if the Rangers blow the last game and go away.

I just don't understand how they beat Boston and Philadelphia and lose to the Islanders and Thrashers.

Moog-Type-S

<iframe width="480" height="289" frameborder="0" src="http://kings.nhl.tv/team/embed.jsp?catid=731&id=107053"></iframe>
The Miracle on Manchester........epic!
Go Kings!

jupitersolo

C a l l a h a n

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

How long have they been out of the Forum?

Moog-Type-S

^^ Spring of 1999 was the last Kings game played at the Forum.

Moog-Type-S

Update:

Hawks: playoff odds down 6.1 to 82.1%

Stars: playoff odds up 10.7 to 30.5%

jupitersolo

This is from a story about fans throwing items onto the ice...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp2020

Moog-Type-S

Jonesi

You won't be alone, there's going to be a ridiculous amount of pens fans there. Almost as many as Columbus earlier this year. Expect an invasion.

Yumcha

Hawks. Brought it.



Like I said before...Wings don't scare the Hawks. Season series so far is now 4-1 for Chicago.

One more and here's hoping United Center will be a madhouse on Sunday!

Fibonacci

Last time I checked, they don't etch regular season records on Lord Stanley's Cup.

Your obsession with Hockeytown amuses me. Quite frankly, Wings have been coasting for the last two months, saving energy and trying to get healthy for the playoffs. Babcock is not an idiot. Everyone knows desire and effort trump skill especially this time of year. Throw out the regular season, the real season begins next week.

Speaking of teams I've been impressed with, the Pens without their two most talented offensive players - now that's impressive. Pens fans should be thanking their lucky stars that Bylsma had tutelage under Babs.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

I don't understand how the Rangers did not clinch the 8th spot today. They have 93 points and 44 wins. Carolina has 91 points and 40 wins, therefore the best they can hope for is 93 points and 41 wins.

I am not sure I don't prefer to be out seeing as they will not go far, I just fail to grasp how Carolina can edge the Rangers out.

jupitersolo

Rangers have more loses

R 44-33-5

C 40-30-11

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Losses weigh more than wins?

jupitersolo

It's all base on points, with more losses and less OT wins, it gives Carolina more points, with four less outright wins.

Read this, it'll help http://www.helium.com/items/1332713-nhl-points-system

jupitersolo

44x2 88 + 5 = 93

40x2 80 + 11= 91

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

I understand the points. My confusion comes in when they both have 93 points how are more wins not the deciding winning factor?

Assuming the Hurricanes win tonight, they will have 41 wins and 93 points. The Rangers have 44 wins and 93 points so they are tied in points.

I fail to see what bearing losses have if that team has more wins.

In this case they will have three more wins and two more losses.

Thanks for the link btw.

jupitersolo

Because it is based on points, not wins, loses and "ties", only points. They wouldn't look at others things unless a tie were to happen.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Right, so If The Hurricanes win, they are tied in points. So wins should be where the tie breaker goes first no?

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Here it is:

Carolina needs to win to unseat the Rangers --- and 'Canes can do that in regulation, overtime or a shootout. They just need get two points in some shape or form. A victory would give the Rangers and 'Canes the same amount of points and they both enter with same amount of regulation/overtime wins (35), which serves as the first tiebreaker. The 'Canes, however, hold the second tiebreaker with a better overall series record against the Rangers.
Carolina is 8-1-1 in its past 10 games, but the 'Canes have dropped three of the first five meetings between these two Southeast Division rivals.

I fail to understand why wins are not doing it still.

jupitersolo

The series record is 2-1-1 favor of the Canes, so that is why all games count. I see a lot of fussing coming out of NYC about this, the Rangers could have easily have afford this with some better play in the last two weeks.

It is the current system, but just given 3 points for a win, would fix this.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Like I said, they deserve to be out with losing to eliminated teams twice last week, but I think wins should be tiebreaker 1.

They can't get past Philadelphia or Washington so being eliminated now would be merciful.

I am however sick of being eliminated on the last day of the season (or having that be a possibility)

jupitersolo

If you used three points for wins, this is how the current standing would total

Wash 155
Philly 149
Boston 149
Pitt 152
Tampa 146
Habs 137
Buff 136
Rangers 137

Canes 131

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

That looks better. I just have a very hard time with 3 more wins and the same number of points not winning.

If it happens maybe we'll finally get rid of Sather.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Looking like the point will be moot. 2-0 Lightining.

jupitersolo

3 zip

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Yup.

black label

The Rangers have more wins from shootouts and those don't count in a tie breaker. Because the Rangers are at 93 points after 82 games and the Canes are at 91 after 81, the canes could tie the Rangers for points with a win in their last game.

Rangers are 9-3 in the s/o Canes are 5/5 or Rangers have gained 9 extra points from the s/o where the canes only got 5.

Subtracting those points, the Rangers stand at 84 points and the canes are at 88. If the Canes pick up 2 points in their last game, NY plays golf even though they have more notches in the win column.

You don't get to go the the Stanley Cup Playoffs because you did wicked good in teh skillz competition, you have to win hockey games.

e30cabrio

iTrader: (6)

Then the "skill competition" needs to be done away with.

If they are wins they are wins.

It's 3-0 so without a major change the hurricanes will be playing golf.

Regardless the Rangers do not deserve to go far seeing how they fold under stress.

And by the way, I like the outcome today better than yesterday Yankee Red Sox wise.