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07-01-2010, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, i think he's overpaid but he'll be at least 2nd line in TO
"But, the 27-year-old RW has never topped 40 points since joining the League with Pittsburgh in 2005, when he put up 40 points in just 47 games. Last season, with Atlanta, he had 15 goals and 14 assists in 79 games."
3 mil a year is a lot for that, regardless if I like the guy
"But, the 27-year-old RW has never topped 40 points since joining the League with Pittsburgh in 2005, when he put up 40 points in just 47 games. Last season, with Atlanta, he had 15 goals and 14 assists in 79 games."
3 mil a year is a lot for that, regardless if I like the guy
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No big signings by the Blackhawks.......(like the last 2 years). They've shot their wad already.
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07-01-2010, 01:33 PM
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Paul Martin to Pens, done deal, Michalek and Martin, pens are now stacked pretty good on D, especially with Eaton signing, lovin it.
07-01-2010, 01:45 PM
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07-01-2010, 01:57 PM
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Wow...what are the Flyers doing...? 
Shelley...REALLY?
Shelley...REALLY?
07-01-2010, 02:03 PM
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@ Boogaard going to NYR for $6.5M @ 4 years...WTF.
07-01-2010, 02:03 PM
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Wow, I'm happy Stan is staying outta this stupidity.
07-01-2010, 02:21 PM
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07-01-2010, 02:22 PM
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07-01-2010, 03:07 PM
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Oilers ink Foster...
07-01-2010, 03:16 PM
The sizzle in the Steak
$4.5 mil per year for Hamhuis to Van
07-01-2010, 03:16 PM
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07-01-2010, 03:37 PM
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neither big surprises, good signings for both
Did anyone tell the crapitals that free agency starts today? Haven't heard a thing from them
Did anyone tell the crapitals that free agency starts today? Haven't heard a thing from them
07-01-2010, 03:38 PM
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^ Mebbe they are after Nabby...? Cuz, Flyers have stuffed themselves full...
07-01-2010, 03:40 PM
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Jokinen about to become a Flame again...
07-01-2010, 03:50 PM
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Confirmed...
@ Joki a Flame....again.
@ Joki a Flame....again.
07-01-2010, 03:51 PM
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I'm sure Tan-:ghey: and Joking really will help the Flames woes... 
Ahhhh...poor Calgary. Then again, who knows. Maybe they'll be good next year...?
Ahhhh...poor Calgary. Then again, who knows. Maybe they'll be good next year...?
07-01-2010, 04:19 PM
The sizzle in the Steak
Big trade w/ L.A.?!?!?
07-01-2010, 04:31 PM
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Hawks Trade Ladd to Atlanta...
07-01-2010, 04:36 PM
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^^ It was all or nothing for this year 
The swap meet was coming after you hoisted the Cup.
The swap meet was coming after you hoisted the Cup.
07-01-2010, 04:38 PM
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Such is the reality of the cap era too. Dang, I really liked Ladd too. Gritty and clutch player...
The good thing is that the Hawks' pipeline is looking good and restocked. Just hoping someone can step up to fill in some big shoes...
07-02-2010, 08:24 AM
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The rumors about Nabby are just that. According to the FO with the signing of Leighton goaltending is no longer a priority. I'm thinking that Emery will still be #1 (health permitting) with Leighton #2. It seems like the Flyers have also shored up their defense so IMHO any other movment from them would be offense-related (ie...trade Carter?).
07-02-2010, 08:39 AM
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Rumors have Turco going to SJ... but they got Nitti, so who knows.
I think it's classless that Dallas doesn't want Modano anymore. That guy is Captain Class and is an original North Star. Let him play one more year there. Can't imagine this guy in another sweater. One of the best American players ever.
I think it's classless that Dallas doesn't want Modano anymore. That guy is Captain Class and is an original North Star. Let him play one more year there. Can't imagine this guy in another sweater. One of the best American players ever.
07-02-2010, 09:04 AM
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Nevermind the Turco to SJ...they just signed Ellis so they have two goalies.
Hedberg to backup Brodeur in NJ...
So, Turco and Nabby are without a home...
Hedberg to backup Brodeur in NJ...
So, Turco and Nabby are without a home...
07-02-2010, 09:07 AM
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Murray also voiced his frustration in negotiations with forward Bobby Ryan, saying the restricted free agent turned down a five-year, $25-million offer Thursday. Murray said he's done negotiating "for a while" with the 23-year-old Ryan, who scored 35 goals for Anaheim and played on the U.S. Olympic team last season.
"Basically, that situation is nowhere," Murray said.
"Basically, that situation is nowhere," Murray said.
And if I were Ryan I wouldn't lowball myself into a 5 year/ 25M deal either.
07-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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+1........I'm sad-our Blackhawks will be a mere shadow of their former selves.
07-02-2010, 01:52 PM
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Hedberg to NJ 
interesting...
interesting...
07-03-2010, 09:31 AM
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Rumors have Turco going to SJ... but they got Nitti, so who knows.
I think it's classless that Dallas doesn't want Modano anymore. That guy is Captain Class and is an original North Star. Let him play one more year there. Can't imagine this guy in another sweater. One of the best American players ever.
I think it's classless that Dallas doesn't want Modano anymore. That guy is Captain Class and is an original North Star. Let him play one more year there. Can't imagine this guy in another sweater. One of the best American players ever.
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Here you go Yummy-I don't know if this makes me feel any better about the Blackhawks. But you tell me what you think. (from The Hockey News)
Blackhawks GM Bowman deftly managing salary cap troubles.
One of the more understated things that became clear to this corner through the days leading up to and the first day of free agency was that Stan Bowman gets it.
It might be years before we know whether the Chicago Blackhawks made a horrific mistake by firing Dale Tallon last summer. He’s a great guy and he made some very good moves in building the Blackhawks roster, but let’s face it, Chicago accelerated the building program by getting star players in two successive drafts at No. 1 and No. 3. And they only did that because they were lucky enough and bad enough to be in that position.
Blackhawks fans can, however, take comfort in the fact the team’s ownership made a terrific choice in Bowman, who has earned his stripes as a GM with his handling of the Blackhawks as they waded through their salary cap problems.
(By the way, the Blackhawks are not victims of the salary cap, as they’ve been portrayed in some corners. To suggest the Blackhawks are victims of an economic system to which all 30 teams are subject is preposterous. If the Blackhawks are victims of anything, it’s long-term, big-money contracts they had the freedom not to give. The salary cap in the NHL is victimizing nobody. The teams wanted it, they got it.)
Has Bowman traded away good players? Of course he has. And they were the kind of depth players that often provide the difference in a playoff series. But Bowman had no choice in the matter. There was absolutely no doubt he was going to have to subtract from his roster, something that was made even more pressing when Jonathan Toews won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP and his $1.3 million bonus had to be carried over to next season.
But perhaps by necessity, Bowman has come to realize that cap space is an asset that can be just as valuable as a scoring winger. You could argue that Bowman got almost nothing in return for Dustin Byfuglien, Brent Sopel, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Colin Fraser and Kris Versteeg – and that wouldn’t exactly be true – but what Bowman got was some breathing room with his cap situation. What he acquired in return were assets that, with the exception of Marty Reasoner and Viktor Stalberg, won’t cost him anything in the short term.
Bowman wasn’t forced to take anyone’s junk or a bad contract in return. He made the best of an impossible situation and managed to get a lot more in return than expected while hardly dealing from a position of strength. Let’s not forget that Jeremy Morin, who was part of the Byfuglien deal, scored 47 goals for the Kitchener Rangers last season. Chris DiDomenico, part of the Versteeg deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs, was an integral member of Canada’s gold medal-winning world junior team in 2009 and, despite having last season derailed by a gruesome broken leg, scored 22 points in 12 regular season games before adding 21 in 14 playoff games in the Quebec League last season.
And the best part is that both are probably at least a year from being factors in the Blackhawks salary cap situation.
There is still work to do in Chicago, but Bowman’s calm and effective handling of the situation to this point leaves little doubt he’ll do the right things and the Blackhawks will be fine. And the sooner teams come to grips with this reality, the better off they will be.
For years now, NFL teams have been cutting star players loose and nobody bats an eye. That’s because doing that is a reality in the NFL, something the NHL is starting to grasp. When the Tampa Bay Lightning was exploring trading Vincent Lecavalier, people seemed to get hung up on the fact that the Lightning wasn’t getting equal value in return. But what it would have received was some relief from a long-term, big-money contract that its business model couldn’t support.
Stan Bowman gets that.
Blackhawks GM Bowman deftly managing salary cap troubles.
One of the more understated things that became clear to this corner through the days leading up to and the first day of free agency was that Stan Bowman gets it.
It might be years before we know whether the Chicago Blackhawks made a horrific mistake by firing Dale Tallon last summer. He’s a great guy and he made some very good moves in building the Blackhawks roster, but let’s face it, Chicago accelerated the building program by getting star players in two successive drafts at No. 1 and No. 3. And they only did that because they were lucky enough and bad enough to be in that position.
Blackhawks fans can, however, take comfort in the fact the team’s ownership made a terrific choice in Bowman, who has earned his stripes as a GM with his handling of the Blackhawks as they waded through their salary cap problems.
(By the way, the Blackhawks are not victims of the salary cap, as they’ve been portrayed in some corners. To suggest the Blackhawks are victims of an economic system to which all 30 teams are subject is preposterous. If the Blackhawks are victims of anything, it’s long-term, big-money contracts they had the freedom not to give. The salary cap in the NHL is victimizing nobody. The teams wanted it, they got it.)
Has Bowman traded away good players? Of course he has. And they were the kind of depth players that often provide the difference in a playoff series. But Bowman had no choice in the matter. There was absolutely no doubt he was going to have to subtract from his roster, something that was made even more pressing when Jonathan Toews won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP and his $1.3 million bonus had to be carried over to next season.
But perhaps by necessity, Bowman has come to realize that cap space is an asset that can be just as valuable as a scoring winger. You could argue that Bowman got almost nothing in return for Dustin Byfuglien, Brent Sopel, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Colin Fraser and Kris Versteeg – and that wouldn’t exactly be true – but what Bowman got was some breathing room with his cap situation. What he acquired in return were assets that, with the exception of Marty Reasoner and Viktor Stalberg, won’t cost him anything in the short term.
Bowman wasn’t forced to take anyone’s junk or a bad contract in return. He made the best of an impossible situation and managed to get a lot more in return than expected while hardly dealing from a position of strength. Let’s not forget that Jeremy Morin, who was part of the Byfuglien deal, scored 47 goals for the Kitchener Rangers last season. Chris DiDomenico, part of the Versteeg deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs, was an integral member of Canada’s gold medal-winning world junior team in 2009 and, despite having last season derailed by a gruesome broken leg, scored 22 points in 12 regular season games before adding 21 in 14 playoff games in the Quebec League last season.
And the best part is that both are probably at least a year from being factors in the Blackhawks salary cap situation.
There is still work to do in Chicago, but Bowman’s calm and effective handling of the situation to this point leaves little doubt he’ll do the right things and the Blackhawks will be fine. And the sooner teams come to grips with this reality, the better off they will be.
For years now, NFL teams have been cutting star players loose and nobody bats an eye. That’s because doing that is a reality in the NFL, something the NHL is starting to grasp. When the Tampa Bay Lightning was exploring trading Vincent Lecavalier, people seemed to get hung up on the fact that the Lightning wasn’t getting equal value in return. But what it would have received was some relief from a long-term, big-money contract that its business model couldn’t support.
Stan Bowman gets that.
07-04-2010, 09:48 PM
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Here you go Yummy-I don't know if this makes me feel any better about the Blackhawks. But you tell me what you think. (from The Hockey News)
Blackhawks GM Bowman deftly managing salary cap troubles.
One of the more understated things that became clear to this corner through the days leading up to and the first day of free agency was that Stan Bowman gets it.
It might be years before we know whether the Chicago Blackhawks made a horrific mistake by firing Dale Tallon last summer. He’s a great guy and he made some very good moves in building the Blackhawks roster, but let’s face it, Chicago accelerated the building program by getting star players in two successive drafts at No. 1 and No. 3. And they only did that because they were lucky enough and bad enough to be in that position.
Blackhawks fans can, however, take comfort in the fact the team’s ownership made a terrific choice in Bowman, who has earned his stripes as a GM with his handling of the Blackhawks as they waded through their salary cap problems.
(By the way, the Blackhawks are not victims of the salary cap, as they’ve been portrayed in some corners. To suggest the Blackhawks are victims of an economic system to which all 30 teams are subject is preposterous. If the Blackhawks are victims of anything, it’s long-term, big-money contracts they had the freedom not to give. The salary cap in the NHL is victimizing nobody. The teams wanted it, they got it.)
Has Bowman traded away good players? Of course he has. And they were the kind of depth players that often provide the difference in a playoff series. But Bowman had no choice in the matter. There was absolutely no doubt he was going to have to subtract from his roster, something that was made even more pressing when Jonathan Toews won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP and his $1.3 million bonus had to be carried over to next season.
But perhaps by necessity, Bowman has come to realize that cap space is an asset that can be just as valuable as a scoring winger. You could argue that Bowman got almost nothing in return for Dustin Byfuglien, Brent Sopel, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Colin Fraser and Kris Versteeg – and that wouldn’t exactly be true – but what Bowman got was some breathing room with his cap situation. What he acquired in return were assets that, with the exception of Marty Reasoner and Viktor Stalberg, won’t cost him anything in the short term.
Bowman wasn’t forced to take anyone’s junk or a bad contract in return. He made the best of an impossible situation and managed to get a lot more in return than expected while hardly dealing from a position of strength. Let’s not forget that Jeremy Morin, who was part of the Byfuglien deal, scored 47 goals for the Kitchener Rangers last season. Chris DiDomenico, part of the Versteeg deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs, was an integral member of Canada’s gold medal-winning world junior team in 2009 and, despite having last season derailed by a gruesome broken leg, scored 22 points in 12 regular season games before adding 21 in 14 playoff games in the Quebec League last season.
And the best part is that both are probably at least a year from being factors in the Blackhawks salary cap situation.
There is still work to do in Chicago, but Bowman’s calm and effective handling of the situation to this point leaves little doubt he’ll do the right things and the Blackhawks will be fine. And the sooner teams come to grips with this reality, the better off they will be.
For years now, NFL teams have been cutting star players loose and nobody bats an eye. That’s because doing that is a reality in the NFL, something the NHL is starting to grasp. When the Tampa Bay Lightning was exploring trading Vincent Lecavalier, people seemed to get hung up on the fact that the Lightning wasn’t getting equal value in return. But what it would have received was some relief from a long-term, big-money contract that its business model couldn’t support.
Stan Bowman gets that.
Blackhawks GM Bowman deftly managing salary cap troubles.
One of the more understated things that became clear to this corner through the days leading up to and the first day of free agency was that Stan Bowman gets it.
It might be years before we know whether the Chicago Blackhawks made a horrific mistake by firing Dale Tallon last summer. He’s a great guy and he made some very good moves in building the Blackhawks roster, but let’s face it, Chicago accelerated the building program by getting star players in two successive drafts at No. 1 and No. 3. And they only did that because they were lucky enough and bad enough to be in that position.
Blackhawks fans can, however, take comfort in the fact the team’s ownership made a terrific choice in Bowman, who has earned his stripes as a GM with his handling of the Blackhawks as they waded through their salary cap problems.
(By the way, the Blackhawks are not victims of the salary cap, as they’ve been portrayed in some corners. To suggest the Blackhawks are victims of an economic system to which all 30 teams are subject is preposterous. If the Blackhawks are victims of anything, it’s long-term, big-money contracts they had the freedom not to give. The salary cap in the NHL is victimizing nobody. The teams wanted it, they got it.)
Has Bowman traded away good players? Of course he has. And they were the kind of depth players that often provide the difference in a playoff series. But Bowman had no choice in the matter. There was absolutely no doubt he was going to have to subtract from his roster, something that was made even more pressing when Jonathan Toews won the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP and his $1.3 million bonus had to be carried over to next season.
But perhaps by necessity, Bowman has come to realize that cap space is an asset that can be just as valuable as a scoring winger. You could argue that Bowman got almost nothing in return for Dustin Byfuglien, Brent Sopel, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Colin Fraser and Kris Versteeg – and that wouldn’t exactly be true – but what Bowman got was some breathing room with his cap situation. What he acquired in return were assets that, with the exception of Marty Reasoner and Viktor Stalberg, won’t cost him anything in the short term.
Bowman wasn’t forced to take anyone’s junk or a bad contract in return. He made the best of an impossible situation and managed to get a lot more in return than expected while hardly dealing from a position of strength. Let’s not forget that Jeremy Morin, who was part of the Byfuglien deal, scored 47 goals for the Kitchener Rangers last season. Chris DiDomenico, part of the Versteeg deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs, was an integral member of Canada’s gold medal-winning world junior team in 2009 and, despite having last season derailed by a gruesome broken leg, scored 22 points in 12 regular season games before adding 21 in 14 playoff games in the Quebec League last season.
And the best part is that both are probably at least a year from being factors in the Blackhawks salary cap situation.
There is still work to do in Chicago, but Bowman’s calm and effective handling of the situation to this point leaves little doubt he’ll do the right things and the Blackhawks will be fine. And the sooner teams come to grips with this reality, the better off they will be.
For years now, NFL teams have been cutting star players loose and nobody bats an eye. That’s because doing that is a reality in the NFL, something the NHL is starting to grasp. When the Tampa Bay Lightning was exploring trading Vincent Lecavalier, people seemed to get hung up on the fact that the Lightning wasn’t getting equal value in return. But what it would have received was some relief from a long-term, big-money contract that its business model couldn’t support.
Stan Bowman gets that.
And honestly, who cares...they won the Cup! So, I'm sure teams would gladly shoot themselves to have the chance to sip from the Holy Grail of trophies.
07-04-2010, 09:50 PM
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Kovalchuk Nixes LA's Offer
From TSN...
Ilya Kovalchuk will not be heading to the Los Angeles Kings, according to the team's general manager Dean Lombardi, the L.A. Times reported on Sunday.
The Kovalchuk sweepstakes have seen rumours of the Russian sniper heading to L.A., staying with the Devils or going to the Islanders, but four days into the NHL's free agency period, that all remains speculation and the 27-year-old has yet to find a home.
"We took our best shot to meet his needs and the team's," Lombardi said in an email, according to the Times.
Lombardi did not explain why Kovalchuk turned down the Kings' offer and said he didn't know which team the skilled forward was heading to, the Times said.
The Kovalchuk sweepstakes have seen rumours of the Russian sniper heading to L.A., staying with the Devils or going to the Islanders, but four days into the NHL's free agency period, that all remains speculation and the 27-year-old has yet to find a home.
"We took our best shot to meet his needs and the team's," Lombardi said in an email, according to the Times.
Lombardi did not explain why Kovalchuk turned down the Kings' offer and said he didn't know which team the skilled forward was heading to, the Times said.
07-05-2010, 02:11 PM
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