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Awesome game! Burish making a statement on his return. I hope my Jersey comes in before the playoffs start

Yumcha

Toews jersey...?


Darn it H, where have you been...?

Steven Bell

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Yummy, I think the Blackhawks are the "Game of the Week" on NBC Sunday afternoon too.

97BlackAckCL

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Good, there needs to be a formal rule, as it sits now there isn't and there's too much gray area.

I don't see following precedent as burying their head? By rule and definition this was a clean hit, and Savard lowered his head while playing the puck which I guarantee he has been told not to do since he put on skates as a kid. Cooke was going to play the body and Savard lowered his head before the hit connected, Cooke most likely would have backed off the hit and shown more respect had he had time to react to the head being lowered but I don't see that he had time in any slow motion that I've seen. Of course I was also there and can say what I saw in person. The article posted from Philly is bs, he never raised his elbow, it was straight shoulder, his arm shakes after the play due to recoil from the hit. When the hit happened I said to my sister who I was at the game with that he no doubt would be suspended and that it's a shame because it was a clean hit and he was not penalized, but until there is a set in stone rule, incidental contact to the head is not always going to amount in suspension even though I expected it to this time. I watch numerous guys like Ovechkin, Ruutu, and Cooke (before but not in this case) raise their hands/arms up directly targeting the head, but that was not the case with this hit. It was a shoulder to head hit, but you can clearly see it was an attempt to check a shoulder and play the body. It's unfortunate because it was a blind side hit, and the head was lowered, but for once I think the league actually made a sound decision based on the current rules. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a pens fan or that I witnessed it, I'm basing it on the circumstances and the rules cited. Of course if someone blindsided Crosby or Malkin or any guys that I watch of course I would be emotionally upset as I'm sure fans in Boston are, because no fan wants to see a guy get blindsided no matter who it is. However star players get checked with clean hits all the time, it's part of the game. They also have the sense to keep their heads up especially when playing in the offensive zone, Savard is partly at fault here as well. Not to mention I'm sure there will be tons of head hunting on Cooke next week when we play boston again so justice will be served one way or another.

jupitersolo

I'll send you $10 to start buying paragraphs.


Blaming the guy with a grade 2 concussion

dom

^ I'll send him $10 on top of yours.

All I read was "I'm a Penguin fan so Cooke did nothing wrong. Never mind the previous suspensions and his reputation"

There is no respect amongst the players. There is nothing to debate here. Unless you'd like to talk about how to police the players.

Yumcha

Put it this way: Cooke is IMO and many others a repeat offender. I still say he was head-hunting.

Even Guerin, his teammate, does not condone this sort of hitting.

dom

And it mentions 'intent'. How they can possibly determine intent is something I'd be interested in seeing. Unless its as simple as a retaliation hit which often isn't the case.

jupitersolo

They could allow video reply during the game.

jupitersolo

Yumcha

I'm sure if Moog was able to post, he'd chime in about the instigator rule. Seriously though, it comes down to a lack of respect amongst players...times have changed.

dom

The league can't even make the right call when they days to do so. You can't expect a ref to judge intent in a matter of a few minutes. It has to be a judgment call. Which won't always be right but its better than nothing I guess.

dom

I never used to believe it had an impact but my opinion is changing. Maybe its time to get rid of it.

BUT, the NHL will never take it out. What message will that send? "We can't police you so go ahead and police yourselves."

Yumcha

I dunno...If you ask me, I think if a player is going to stick up for his teammate, he'll drop his gloves regardless of the rule.

Again...limited examples as I don't watch as many games of other teams. But, on Chicago...Brouwer dropped his gloves and went at it when there was a questionable hit on Kane recently (knee on knee). And again, yesterday, Dustin Brown of the Kings decided to go at Brouwer because the latter had planted Smyth to next month with a big hit...

In the second case, Brown was not charged with an instigator penalty although, it was clearly the case if you watched how the scene played out...

jupitersolo

If they were to get tough on it fast, clamp down, it would go away.


I'd like to see more punishment on retaliation hits. I'm tried on seeing a good hit and then have the receiver of that hit come back and start a fight.

TSX 'R' US

, but black or red?

Been busy...need to pay for wed...I mean mods somehow

Hawks vs Caps on NBC this weekend

jupitersolo

Caps clinch SouthEast...

Yumcha

I really like the black jersey. Then again, you can't go wrong with red either.


<---- Owns Toews Winter Classic jersey...

jupitersolo

You buy that to sleep in? Bet it goes past your knees?

Yumcha

It is rather big, yes.


Even in size small.

jupitersolo

sorry, I'm in a mood tonight.

I couldn't small past my neck/.

TSX 'R' US

I actually do like the black jersey's better... Maybe I'll get a red Hull one too

Fibonacci

So, does your Huet jersey fit better?

jupitersolo

Five and a game misconduct , give me a fucking break

wstevens

Campbell's skate caught an edge after the shove and his leg buckled, which is why he went head first (really shoulder first) into the boards. It should have been a 2 minute roughing at most but oh well.

Last 2 games, the Caps have been all over the place. Must be Boudreau's line tinkering with the new players. Someone please teach Corvo his assignments.

wstevens

I guess it was nice to see the Caps play 0.378 of a good game.

jupitersolo

That's all they needed, Hawks went into coast mode.

wstevens

The Hawks are fun to watch.

Steven Bell

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I'm having SERIOUS doubts about the Blackhawks. Losing 2 games in 2 days-in the final period/overtime period. They better get their shit together or they will not go far, at all, in the playoffs.

wstevens

That would be a tragedy.

dom

I think he may have also hit a stick of butter that was laying on the ice. And I've heard Campbell's skates haven't been sharpened in months. Instead, he lines his blades with automotive grease. Actually, replays show that Oveckin didn't even touch him. Was he even on the ice at the same time? No idea why they called it on him.

Campbell should really learn how to skate.

dom

@ the Hawks.

wstevens

Gimme a break, dom. There's no way a reasonable person could think that was a match penalty. Watch the replay, dude.

97BlackAckCL

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Hawks 2 blown leads in a row? Yummy must be beside himself

Nice rebound by the pens, finally successful against the trap for once

dom

Sorry, I couldn't see your post through that cloud of bias. Mind typing it again.

Was it a viciuos hit? No. Is it suspendable? No. Was it a irresponsible, stupid hit? Yes. Which is why the game misconduct was justisfied. When you see numbers, you don't hit, it's as simple as that. Especially when the boards are 10 ft away.

dom

A perfectly clean hit. Tell me you're not fawkin serious???? Please. He saw nothing but his numbers the entire way down the ice. Its bad enough that I have to hear Milbury on CBC and NBC and now I have to listen to you knuckleheads defend these stupid hockey players.

The more I watch it the more I think he should take a 5 game vacation. Campbell could have broke his neck.

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wstevens

Are you quoting me? I never said it was a perfectly clean hit. It wasn't clean. It was boarding. Worth a penalty no question. Double minor would have been easily justified.

But, there was no intent to injure as you keep saying there was. You keep saying that every hit Ovechkin makes is an attempt to injure. He has like, what, 5-6 hits a game and after every single one you post that there's an intent to injure. That's 5-6 posts per Caps game by dom saying that every hit Ovechkin makes is an attempt to injure. A good 1,200 of your 41,000 posts are about Ovechkin attempting to injure. Why do you spend that much time on this? And now you're saying he should be suspended for a year for this? Are you insane?

Your position is that he should never be allowed to play in the NHL again after this hit and I'm the knucklehead?

Steven Bell

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I'm watching NHL-On The Fly. They're reporting that Brian Campbell is probably out for the rest of the regular season with broken ribs and a broken shoulder.

dom

I've been found out.

Where's Yummy? I'm guessing suicide...

Intent to injure? No, I don't see it. But these are just the types of lack of respect, stupid hits I've been harping on the last little while.

wstevens

I agree it was not a good hit. I feel terrible for Campbell if the reports of his injuries are accurate. Ovechkin can be a bozo sometimes (sometimes he reminds me of a rambunctious dog that doesn't know it's hurting people). But I still don't think it's a suspend-able hit.

If they suspend Ovechkin for that, yet didn't suspend Cooke for head hunting, they'll be really fucking things up.