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Old 03-02-2010, 10:01 AM
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Post Ducks Trade Artyukhin to Atlanta

Story here: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=312071
Old 03-02-2010, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Can't really use the "that country has more people" argument... how many people does India have? Over 1 Billion. How many pro athletes are from there? Zero.
Actually: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...rs-debut_N.htm

Just sayin

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:59 AM
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Hawks talk Huet Trade with Leafs for Finger...



From ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blac...afs-about-huet

The Chicago Blackhawks are discussing a trade that would send goaltender Cristobal Huet to the Toronto Maple Leafs for defenseman Jeff Finger, according to a league source.

The Hawks also would include at least a draft pick, the source said.

The NHL trade deadline is Thursday.

Finger is signed through 2011-2012 at $3.5 million per year.

Huet also is signed through 2012 at $5.6 million per year. It's unclear what Toronto would do with Huet after recently trading for J.S. Giguere.

With the underachieving Huet off the roster and the Hawks saving money on the deal, it could open the door for another trade. League sources say the Hawks have had interest in Florida Panthers goaltender Tomas Vokoun. However, Florida had no desire in receiving Huet in return. According to league sources, Vokoun has not been asked to waive his no-trade clause as of Monday morning.

Finger has two goals and seven assists in 30 games this season. He's minus 12 for the season and hasn't played in a game since January 26.

I call BS on this one...but, still...interesting.
Old 03-02-2010, 11:15 AM
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The only way I see it happening is by the Leafs burying Huet and his contract in the minors. But then why not just do that with Finger?

Doesn't make any sense IMO.
Old 03-02-2010, 11:42 AM
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It was an epic game that delivered an epic audience.

Sunday's gold medal Men's Hockey game has become the most-watched television broadcast ever in Canadian history, with an average audience of 16.6 million viewers.

Nearly half of the Canadian population watched the entire game on average, while 80 percent of Canadians watched some part of the game (26.5 million). The game aired live on nine television networks in eight languages via Canada's Olympic Broadcast Media Consortium.

"Crosby scores! Sidney Crosby! The golden goal! And Canada has once-in-a-lifetime Olympic gold!," called play-by-play announcer Chris Cuthbert as Canada clinched its record-breaking 14th gold medal. "These Golden Games have their crowning moment."

Additionally, the 2010 Winter Games Closing Ceremony becomes the second most-watched broadcast ever, as 14.3 million viewers said goodbye to Vancouver 2010. A total of 24.5 million watched some part of the broadcast.
I figured the average would have been closer to 20 million.
Old 03-02-2010, 11:43 AM
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Chris Chelios is back in the NHL, as the veteran blueliner has signed with the Atlanta Thrashers. Chelios, 48, signed with the Chicago Wolves of the American Hockey League last fall. The Chicago native has played in 1,644 NHL games with 185 goals and 763 assists.
This guy must hate his family.
Old 03-02-2010, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
This guy must hate his family.
Chelios has Favre-itis...
Old 03-02-2010, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CivicB18B1

USA: 308,778,000 millions of people

CANADA: 34,018,000 millions of people

USA have 9x more population compared to Canada and still, Canada won the olympics.

Not bad EH?
meh, never said canada didnt show up and do great (which they did awesome). but the olympic's have a Medal count for a reason, more gold is great, but success is measured in medal count.

how many of those 308 mil do you think see snow on a basis that would support winter sports?

we have more people yes, but like mentioned before, we arent a country that is mostly confined to winter weather, accordinly we arent raised on skiing, bobsledding, speed skating... sure we have good athletes that compete in these events. but its not exactly a first option as it would be in some places like canada.

but dont measure a countires greatness on the population, your basically saying we have 300 mil. olympians and canada has 34 mil olympians and they won more gold... we dont have 10x more great athletes to choose from. thats just not how it works.
division 3, and 4 high school sports programs often terrorize 5 and 6A schools in the larger states here with sometimes 10x Less students.. its all about location and points of interest in a certain area.

But congrats on the success... again...

sorry for the slight OT:

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:15 PM
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Some guys don't know when to shut it down.
Old 03-02-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
its all about location and points of interest in a certain area.

It is, I agree. Just keep in mind that most of Canada's population is in a province where most of the winter sports you mentioned aren't practiced. Toronto and surrounding areas don't have skiing, bobsledding, speed skating etc. Most of our winning athletes come from the smaller, colder provinces so there is a smaller talent pool to choose from. Toronto could never host a Winter Olympics.

But to your point, look at a country like Norway. 4.8 million people that have year round access to the required facilities to practice their sport.. and it shows.
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Sutton from NYI to OTT for a 2nd rounder.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Some guys don't know when to shut it down.
Originally Posted by dom
It is, I agree. Just keep in mind that most of Canada's population is in a province where most of the winter sports you mentioned aren't practiced. Toronto and surrounding areas don't have skiing, bobsledding, speed skating etc. Most of our winning athletes come from the smaller, colder provinces so there is a smaller talent pool to choose from. Toronto could never host a Winter Olympics.

But to your point, look at a country like Norway. 4.8 million people that have year round access to the required facilities to practice their sport.. and it shows.


Old 03-02-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Chelios has Favre-itis...
I don't think Chelios has ever stated he's retiring and then un-retired.

He has more of a case of Don'tknowwhentoquit-itis with a touch of longpastdue-itis.
Old 03-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi



Nice comeback Jonsei, thanks for contributing to the discussion.

Wait, this is Hockey Talk...

BTW - How many of those 37 medals came from Pittsburgh? Crosby's, Fleury's and Orpiks don't count.
Old 03-02-2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Some guys don't know when to shut it down.
whats wrong with discussing?
nobody is out of line here?

seems like you're complaining over nothing. others respond with their opinions.. and you just whine. why not contribute instead of crying about it?

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
whats wrong with discussing?
nobody is out of line here?


I think he was talking about Chelios.
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Originally Posted by dom


I think he was talking about Chelios.
then i sincerely apologize.

i took it the wrong way.

and i see your point dom, i guess im just defensive of our athletes, we are hated on a huge scale (especially when we do good) and im used to defending our team.

keep in mind we are the fattest country on the planet, that already takes away 100 mil fatties right off the bat from the probable competitor list

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:09 PM
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Ron Wilson was his usual cheerful self when talking to the media today. He called Canadians and the Canadian media for losing hope in the team after their early struggles. He then goes on to say how the media really threw Brodeur under the bus and how his legacy was almost tarnished in one night.
Old 03-02-2010, 02:13 PM
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Is he not speaking truthfully?
Old 03-02-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
I don't think Chelios has ever stated he's retiring and then un-retired.

He has more of a case of Don'tknowwhentoquit-itis with a touch of longpastdue-itis.
Oh, yeah...good point!
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Chelios has Forsberg-itis.


There...corrected.
Old 03-02-2010, 02:22 PM
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Well I can't speak for everyone but even after the loss to the Americans I was not doubting the teams abilities. Sure, the road to gold wasn't as easy as anticipated but it was never out of reach. The first week of the Olympics didn't go as planned for Canada as a whole and the hockey loss was just another thing to add to the list. It's a story the media ran with. I don't agree with Brodeur's legacy being tarnished in any way. Ron Wilson was the first person I've heard say this.
Old 03-02-2010, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
He called Canadians and the Canadian media for losing hope in the team after their early struggles.
Friggin idiots.

But I don't agree about Brodeur. I don't see him as tarnished at all. And why blame the media and people for that, Babcock made the call. I doubt he bowed to pressure.
Old 03-02-2010, 02:27 PM
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And Ron Wilson better start learning how to handle Toronto media. He's done a horrible job thus far. He should take a look at how Burke handles them.
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I agree. It is part of his job. Dealing with the media here isn't easy but he needs to come across better.
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
whats wrong with discussing?
nobody is out of line here?

seems like you're complaining over nothing. others respond with their opinions.. and you just whine. why not contribute instead of crying about it?


Hang in there....hockey talk is serious bizzzznizzz
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Originally Posted by dom
Nice comeback Jonsei, thanks for contributing to the discussion.

Wait, this is Hockey Talk...

BTW - How many of those 37 medals came from Pittsburgh? Crosby's, Fleury's and Orpiks don't count.




fine.. Ryan Malone.. Suck on that..




Question.... dommy..... How many gold medals has the Canadian mens hockey team won in last 50 years without Lemieux or Crosby?


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Hang in there....hockey talk is serious bizzzznizzz
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:28 PM
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Question.... dommy..... How many gold medals has the Canadian mens hockey team won in last 50 years without Lemieux or Crosby?

How many Cups has Pittsburgh won without Lemieux or Crosby?
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Vokoun trade rumors heating up....according to ESPN, he told the Miami newspaper that he's may be willing to waive his no trade clause.
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How many Cups has Pittsburgh won without Lemieux or Crosby?

You never answered my question at least I answered with Malone
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Vokoun trade rumors heating up....according to ESPN, he told the Miami newspaper that he's may be willing to waive his no trade clause.

this is going to upset jupiters.......
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Was Malone on the team? Must have missed him in those 60 minutes of hockey.

I think Joe Thorton had more impact on that game.
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Sutton from NYI to OTT for a 2nd rounder.

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No kidding!! Horrible stats, injured all last season ..

But we have no depth on defence. Karlsson is just starting to
skate again, he's been out 4 weeks, Campoli is going to be out at
least 4 weeks. Even with the trade they're going to have
to call up a kid from Binghamton.
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Originally Posted by dom
Was Malone on the team? Must have missed him in those 60 minutes of hockey.

I think Joe Thorton had more impact on that game.

Who are you kidding... we all know you didn't watch the game like stevens wife.. don't pretend..






still didn't answer the question...
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Originally Posted by dom
Was Malone on the team? Must have missed him in those 60 minutes of hockey.

I think Joe Thorton had more impact on that game.

It's kinda funny though I saw more of Malone then I did of the Leafs 2 first rounders and second round pick + $5M/yr skating out there.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi

still didn't answer the question...
None. But Canada's done more for Pittsburgh in the last 50 years than what Pittsburgh done for Canada or anywhere else in the world for that matter.
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None. But Canada's done more for Pittsburgh in the last 50 years than what Pittsburgh done for Canada or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

Not my fault you guys didn't select Sid to play in the last Olympics........


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Originally Posted by Jonesi
It's kinda funny though I saw more of Malone then I did of the Leafs 2 first rounders and second round pick + $5M/yr skating out there.
Can't argue that one. I still don't think Wilson knows where he is.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
this is going to upset jupiters.......
At least he's trying to sight a source not just pulling thing out of his ass, though there is no talk about this at espn.com, espn a joke when it come to following hockey.



Sorry there is a little talk, when can read it if you're dumb enough to pay for espn insider


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