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Old 05-28-2009, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
My fave Penguins player for a name: Zarley Zalapski.

Zalapski and Cullen for Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelson Thanks Hartford...
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But, puhleeze...the list of bad Hawks picks out numbers the Pens bad picks. At least the Pens had superstar players drafted in Jagr, Lemieux, Crosby and Malkin.



Jimmy Waite:
Adam Bennett:
Karl Dykhuis:
Sergei Krivokrasov:
Mark Bell:
DAN CLEARY:
Mikhail Yabukov:
Pavel Vorobiev:
Adam Munro:
Old 05-28-2009, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
LOL. I just wanted them. Have the white and blue magnitogorsk, 2 "home" whites, one away black and the winter classic. still need the olympic one.

I collect hockey cards/pens jerseys and assorted hockey stuff. Have a bunch of old pucks from the 1920s-1960s.
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Originally Posted by wstevens
Unless you have $124 million tied up in one player
At 13 years, if he stays healthy 10 mil a year will be a steal 10 years from now..
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
At 13 years, if he stays healthy 10 mil a year will be a steal 10 years from now..
you mean 7 years after he's hit the wall?
Old 05-28-2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
LOL. I just wanted them. Have the white and blue magnitogorsk, 2 "home" whites, one away black and the winter classic. still need the olympic one.

I collect hockey cards/pens jerseys and assorted hockey stuff. Have a bunch of old pucks from the 1920s-1960s.
Impressive! I have a bunch of Hawks hockey cards from the 90s. I still remember giving away my Jagr rookie Upper Deck card to get an Ed Belfour card...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
But, puhleeze...the list of bad Hawks picks out numbers the Pens bad picks. At least the Pens had superstar players drafted in Jagr, Lemieux, Crosby and Malkin.

Yea but the Pens had to cheat and steal to get them, ask
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Originally Posted by wstevens
you mean 7 years after he's hit the wall?

Pssssshhhhh.... Bondra had about 14 years of productive hockey. You have nothing to worry about.. And Theo had about 15 years..
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
But, puhleeze...the list of bad Hawks picks out numbers the Pens bad picks. At least the Pens had superstar players drafted in Jagr, Lemieux, Crosby and Malkin.



Jimmy Waite:
Adam Bennett:
Karl Dykhuis:
Sergei Krivokrasov:
Mark Bell:
DAN CLEARY:
Mikhail Yabukov:
Pavel Vorobiev:
Adam Munro:
Endicott 2000
Koltsov 1999
Kraft 1998
Dome 1997
Hillier 1996
Wells 1994
Bergkvist 1993

All those guys were our 1st round pick except for endicott (2nd rd.)


They all are total busts. Then came the armstrong whitney fleury picks, then malkin crosby and things started looking up.
Old 05-28-2009, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Yea but the Pens had to cheat and steal to get them, ask


There really is no secret to getting the turnaround your team has gotten...suck really badly for a couple years and suck very badly in the years that yield once-a-generational type players.

Sadly, we're not going to get that this draft or next IMO. So, your original prognosis of Toronto being contenders in 2029 is IMO...correct.





That being said, I think Toronto has hope. It depends what they do this off-season and next and how smartly Burke drafts.
Old 05-28-2009, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
There really is no secret to getting the turnaround your team has gotten...suck really badly for a couple years and suck very badly in the years that yield once-a-generational type players.

Sadly, we're not going to get that this draft or next IMO. So, your original prognosis of Toronto being contenders in 2029 is IMO...correct.

They just haven't sucked badly enough yet.. They like being mediocre.
Old 05-28-2009, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
meh. The Pens lost two first round draft picks for Hossa for 3 months if not less.. Not worth it..

The Caps are on the right track. IMO with the salary cap now home grown is the only way to go..
Both of their farms team are playing for their leagues Cup. The Stingrays are playing a team from Alaska, what a hell of a road trip.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
This one flew over my head...
anyone?

Sid and the boys mixed it up this year by accepting/touching the Wales Cup this year.
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Old 05-28-2009, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Endicott 2000
Koltsov 1999
Kraft 1998
Dome 1997
Hillier 1996
Wells 1994
Bergkvist 1993

All those guys were our 1st round pick except for endicott (2nd rd.)


They all are total busts. Then came the armstrong whitney fleury picks, then malkin crosby and things started looking up.
Pfft...told you, your megastars that were drafted makes up for any shortcomings...I don't think there is a franchise out there that has had 4 game-changing players drafted in the 1st round like that.
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I'm a little disappointed that it will be Jim Houston and not Bob Cole calling the finals. I know Bob Cole showing his age now but it's still his voice I want to hear in a big game.
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Ratings Numbers

Pens shattered their ratings record for a telecast again.

The Penguins' 4-1 victory in Game 4 Tuesday night on Versus registered a 27.1 average rating in Pittsburgh, according to Nielsen Media Research, compared with a 4.8 in Raleigh, N.C.

"It's a huge number," Versus spokesman Meier Raivich said yesterday.

The 27.1 rating topped the previous high of 24.97, which FSN Pittsburgh recorded for Game 7 of the Penguins' second-round playoff series against the Washington Capitals. That was the most-watched NHL game for any FSN regional sports network.

Overall, the Penguins' four-game sweep of Carolina averaged a 21.7 rating in Pittsburgh compared with a 6.2 in Raleigh. Nationally, the series averaged a 1.3 rating for the first three games -- the Game 4 numbers won't be available until today -- and attracted more than 1.5 million viewers per game.

On the other hand, the first two games of the Chicago-Detroit series on Versus averaged a 1.6 rating and attracted slightly less than 1.7 million viewers.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09148/973348-139.stm
So much for those Canes fans Jupiters was talking about
Old 05-28-2009, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Ratings Numbers



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09148/973348-139.stm
So much for those Canes fans Jupiters was talking about
Best attendence of any team in the south and better that a few that have won Stanleys Cup, Pittsburgh was only nineteen on this list, but they'll get a few more seats in awhile. And as you were saying Vs, is limited to viewers.

21 Carolina 41 679,488 16,572
22 Tampa Bay 41 676,409 16,497
23 Los Angeles 41 676,042 16,488
24 New Jersey 41 647,397 15,790
25 Florida 41 640,496 15,621
26 Columbus 41 637,284 15,543
27 Colorado 41 632,602 15,429
28 Nashville 41 615,439 15,010
29 Phoenix 41 609,907 14,875
30 Atlanta 41 599,673 14,626
31 NY Islanders41 564,697 13,773

For most of Carolina and the south, if it doesn't go round and round...
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Best attendence of any team in the south and better that a few that have won Stanleys Cup, Pittsburgh was only nineteen on this list, but they'll get a few more seats in awhile. And as you were saying Vs, is limited to viewers.

21 Carolina 41 679,488 16,572

For most of Carolina and the south, if it doesn't go round and round...

touche my friend touche.. But I think you need to look at Percent capacity as that gives a true figure not just who plays in the largest rinks

5. Pittsburgh 102.6%
22. Carolina 88.5%
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
touche my friend touche.. But I think you need to look at Percent capacity as that gives a true figure not just who plays in the largest rinks

5. Pittsburgh 102.6%
22. Carolina 88.5%
As I said the Gwens will have a bigger stadium soon. They will get about 1500 more seats with the Consol.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
As I said the Gwens will have a bigger arena soon. They will get about 1500 more seats with the Consol.

selective number posting i see.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
How's Kane's putting?


Game on bishes, sticking with my call for Wings in 7, hopefully shorter cuz my liver needs a rest.
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You are everything that dom isn't. I like you Rounder. I like you.
I just ordered a 49'ners fathead helmet. It was 1/2 price.
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I just ordered a 49'ners fathead helmet. It was 1/2 price.
Figured they'd be cost + shipping..
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Originally Posted by herbalist
it will be Jim Houston and not Bob Cole calling the finals.
Best news I've heard all week.

Bob Cole was done 10 years ago.

At least now we'll know that the team WITH THE PUCK isn't the one being penalized when the ref has his arm up.

Damn, I used at least again.
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Figured they'd be cost + shipping..
It was marked as clearance. $39.99. It was the only NFL helmet at that price. All others were $89. I know the niners suck but that's strange.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci


Game on bishes, sticking with my call for Wings in 7, hopefully shorter cuz my liver needs a rest.
With the NBC schedule, this will be over with next Thursday. to the pens fan.
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It was marked as clearance. $39.99. It was the only NFL helmet at that price. All others were $89. I know the niners suck but that's strange.
Economy? Reduce excess inventory and overhead?
Old 05-28-2009, 08:41 PM
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Economy? Reduce excess inventory and overhead?
Ok, but why was it the ONLY helmet on clearance?

EDIT: I just checked again. The Detroit Lions helmet is also on clearance
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Ok, but why was it the ONLY helmet on clearance?
Well.. I just looked and it looked like the Detroit Lions also have a "special price" does that tell you anything?
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
With the NBC schedule, this will be over with next Thursday. to the pens fan.

This is an outrage. The schedule clearly favors the Pens. Bettman must be getting teabagged by Lemieux. First Crosby AND Malkin and now this?

It's a shame because if the Pens win the cup, in the minds of true hockey fans (and I don't mean those who started crowing about their team after the team became really good *cough*), it will have an asterisk. And then the question will be: when will Crosby win his first non-asterisk cup? Poor guy- as if the pressure wasn't enough already.

It's like Yumchah winning FHL. I mean, sure he had a great team and he might of won anyway, but that doesn't erase the fact that he cheated.

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It's like Yumchah winning FHL. I mean, sure he had a great team and he might of won anyway, but that doesn't erase the fact that he cheated.
OH NO YOU DI-ENT!
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Originally Posted by wstevens
This is an outrage. The schedule clearly favors the Pens. Bettman must be getting teabagged by Lemieux. First Crosby AND Malkin and now this?

It's a shame because if the Pens win the cup, in the minds of true hockey fans (and I don't mean those who started crowing about their team after the team became really good *cough*), it will have an asterisk.
WTF are you babbling about this time? Why does it favor the Pens?
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WTF are you babbling about this time? Why does it favor the Pens?
There's about 9,000 articles between yesterday and today stating Bettman is trying to help the Pens because Detroit is banged up and that a game this soon and back to back games is a outrage...! Blasphemy..!!


Once one article was written the rest had to have their own version to be noticed..
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Its not the NHL's fault that the Ducks beat the crap out of the Wings. Thats what you get when you're teams is comprised of a bunch of Europeans.

Sorry.
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