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Old 04-01-2009, 09:07 PM
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What a change up!!
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I take back what I said about NJ in the East.
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Nice...well, maybe he can give the Oilers some needed boosted down the road. Cuz, that team SUCKS.
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Captain Toews rises to the challenge

Great article on Chicago's Captain Serious, who really does not get enough worship...

Toews rocks.

From CNNSI...

When Jonathan Toews was mired in the midst of the slowest start since a Fred Thompson presidential campaign -- in terms of goals, Toews was 0-for-October -- he kept saying the new weight of the Chicago Blackhawks captaincy was not contributing to his scoring drought.

He now admits he was fibbing. At least a little.

"Not that I was saying it at the time, but I was frustrated," Toews said. "I was trying to do too much. I thought about everything except my own game. Maybe (once you) keep your mouth shut for a few nights, keep it simple and start worrying about your own game, everything becomes a little more natural."

When the interminable season stopped being a snapshot and became a flowing video, Toews came into focus as one of the NHL's most dependable forwards. Helped by what coach Joel Quenneville says was a change in Chicago's down-low defensive coverage, Toews eventually found a rhythm and now figures to wind up the regular season just about where he should be: a near point-a-game player who does exemplary work on both sides of the puck.

Although he had just six points the first month of the season and did not score a goal until his 13th game (Nov. 9), Toews, who won't turn 21 for another four weeks or so, began the week with 30 goals and 33 assists. He also was a plus-6, ranked 11th in the league with a 55.1 faceoff percentage, and was playing with a level of maturity that should capture the rapt attention of Hockey Canada executives, who might have to figure out a way to shoehorn both Philadelphia Flyers captain Mike Richards and Toews onto a rich-in-natural-centers Olympic team.

Richards and Toews are the NHL's two best young captains -- remarkably disciplined and responsible. Richards is the better defensive player because of his strength and ornery nature, but Toews, in his second season, is one of the NHL's top 10 two-way players and has a bit more offensive polish. Linemate Patrick Kane remains the shiny bauble that dazzles fans. He was minus-8 while having just one more point than his center and might win a scoring title one year, but there is a better chance that Toews, the third player taken in the 2007 draft, will win the Hart Trophy before Kane captures an Art Ross.

"Pretty focused," Chicago winger Patrick Sharp said of Toews, who last July became the third youngest captain in NHL history behind Vincent Lecavalier and Sidney Crosby. "He leads by example. Rarely takes a game or practice off. He's held a few meetings this year. He's spoken well, said all the right things.

"I don't want to say he cares more than anybody else, but every little detail is the end of the world to him. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Last year there were times when he'd kinda go off the deep end with the little things that were bothering him, or after a tough loss. This year you can see it still bothers him, but he's got the ability to file it and go on. He realizes it's not the end of the world."

Toews played two seasons of college hockey -- he helped North Dakota to two Frozen Four appearances -- in a subset of the sport in which every game really can seem like the end of the world. The weekends are packed, the season is short, the playoffs are brisk. . . the pressure builds exponentially, unlike in Chicago, which essentially secured a Western Conference playoff spot weeks ago and now is just trying to get home-ice advantage for the first series. Toews, whose rookie season was reduced to 64 games because of a strained left knee, simply needed to adjust the idle on the motor that he always keeps revving.

"There's extra motivation," he said of the captaincy. "You can't take one night off. All the guys will be responding. The way you play definitely reflects the way the team plays. There are going to be those nights where you're down a couple of goals, things aren't going right and you pick up your play and the team kinda jumps on board. I always wanted to be a player like that. I just never expected to be there so early.

"I've learned to do a better job of just staying loose and enjoying the game. Keep the mood light. You don't think about the game until it comes. I think my skin is getting thicker. I've been learning not to be so serious and not worrying about the game before I have to."
Old 04-02-2009, 12:13 AM
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What a nice goal by Captain Serious...

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Old 04-02-2009, 12:42 AM
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My dad asked me tonight at Dinner when the next time the hawks play the wings, I promptly looked it up and sure enough it was a saturday afternoon, PERFECT!

I shout from the living room, it's on the 11th, he shouts back perfect get tickets, I'm thinking

Then the fun buster chirps in from the other room. Honey, we're having easter dinner that day here and so and so is coming over, you guys can't go to Detroit.
Old 04-02-2009, 12:54 AM
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^ Hawks will win against the Dings, dammit!
Old 04-02-2009, 09:51 AM
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The Blackhawks FINALLY looked good last night and beat the Blues.
Old 04-02-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
The Blackhawks FINALLY looked good last night and beat the Blues.
It was disappointing that Bulin didn't get the shutout...but, a good game played by the boys, indeed.
Old 04-02-2009, 10:20 AM
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Richards and Toews are the NHL's two best young captains -- remarkably disciplined and responsible. Richards is the better defensive player because of his strength and ornery nature
Richards is a fucking bum and cheap shot artist. Fuck him.
Old 04-02-2009, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
This is cheeky.

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Well played.
Old 04-02-2009, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
What a nice goal by Captain Serious...
Get off his nuts already, seriously :theghey:
Old 04-02-2009, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
The Blackhawks FINALLY looked good last night and beat the Blues.
Beating the blues? Not much of a triumph there

Originally Posted by Rounder
Richards is a fucking bum and cheap shot artist. Fuck him.
Fawk Richards, he's such a cheap player
Old 04-02-2009, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Beating the blues? Not much of a triumph there
Pfft...Hawks also beat the Sharks and Devils last week. Just face the fact that the Hawks are the NEW cool young team in the League. Not your Pens.




And yeah, Toews rocks.
Old 04-02-2009, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounder
Richards is a fucking bum and cheap shot artist. Fuck him.
Great. So, that means Toews is better! Woo!
Old 04-02-2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Great. So, that means Toews is better! Woo!
No it doesn't.
Old 04-02-2009, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Pfft...Hawks also beat the Sharks and Devils last week. Just face the fact that the Hawks are the NEW cool young team in the League. Not your Pens.




And yeah, Toews rocks.
Saving this post for down the road.

Swap out Hawks for Kings.
Old 04-02-2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
It was disappointing that Bulin didn't get the shutout...but, a good game played by the boys, indeed.

Very true...it's all good though.


Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Beating the blues? Not much of a triumph there.
Hey, the Blues are playing very well as of late. They're in the playoff hunt and winning when it counts. Don't downplay the Blues or count them out just yet.
Old 04-02-2009, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Beating the blues? Not much of a triumph there.
Blues won again tonight...they beat the Red Wings. Now what do you think?
Old 04-02-2009, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalist
No it doesn't.
Yeah, it does.
Old 04-02-2009, 11:24 PM
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Well, it's official: I can't beat wstevens...he's had my number all season. And at this rate, I don't think I'll catch the guy.

Ribiero, Ryan, and Selanne have been absolute beasts for him...nice pick up on the former.
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The battle of add/drops has begun...!!!
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Yummy I don't understand your points.. I mean it was your style this year.. Claim it and except it.. Some weeks it helped some it didn't, nature of the beast. I just think if you own up to it instead of the whole denial thing people might accept it better
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Oh joy of joys....too see that little "e" next to the Kings in the standings.
4th or 5th from the bottom finish
Old 04-03-2009, 11:08 AM
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Yummy I don't understand your points.. I mean it was your style this year.. Claim it and except it.. Some weeks it helped some it didn't, nature of the beast. I just think if you own up to it instead of the whole denial thing people might accept it better
I didn't deny it, man. I'm just wondering why everyone was getting so riled up about it or that it was my only way of beating them...? Face it, I didn't employ the tactics on everyone and when it worked, it helped, when it didn't, it has done nothing...like this week against stevens.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
I didn't deny it, man. I'm just wondering why everyone was getting so riled up about it or that it was my only way of beating them...? Face it, I didn't employ the tactics on everyone and when it worked, it helped, when it didn't, it has done nothing...like this week against stevens.

I'm just messing with you.. I think it's because for everyone else it takes the fun out of the game..
Old 04-03-2009, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
I'm just messing with you.. I think it's because for everyone else it takes the fun out of the game..
For me it's annoying because of all the time you have to put it watching who's on hot streaks etc, Fantasy is fun and all, and I don't really want to put that much time in, also in the interests of realism, how many NHL teams make 100 moves per year?
Old 04-03-2009, 12:31 PM
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I'm all for limiting the number of roster moves next time then, folks.


But, please no whining if I decide to maximize out my moves on one week or whatever.
Old 04-03-2009, 02:35 PM
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I'm with these guys. It takes the fun out of it. I'm doing it now because I know Yummy's gonna do it and I need to keep up with him. Yummy, if you take it down a notch, I will too.
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Originally Posted by wstevens
I'm with these guys. It takes the fun out of it. I'm doing it now because I know Yummy's gonna do it and I need to keep up with him. Yummy, if you take it down a notch, I will too.
Um...sure.

I'm 20 points down from you right now...What taking down a notch do you want? I didn't even start off the week with this strategy. You added Ribiero and etc. starting the week and that was when I started being behind. So, I had no choice but to abandon people like Langenbrunner and Guerin to try to get something to catch you.

So, not sure what you're talking about since you started it.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah

So, not sure what you're talking about since you started it.
Meh. OK - do whatever you want.
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Originally Posted by wstevens
Meh. OK - do whatever you want.


I think you've won, dude. How in the world can I make up 20 points in the games remaining? My lineup for some reason has never matched up well against yours...all season.
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Don't stop with the moved Yumchah. I want to see you break 150.
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Originally Posted by Yumchah


I think you've won, dude. How in the world can I make up 20 points in the games remaining? My lineup for some reason has never matched up well against yours...all season.
The finals are two weeks. Also, I was in the same situation as you last week.
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The finals are two weeks. Also, I was in the same situation as you last week.
don't tell him it's two weeks long.. :shakehead
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don't tell him it's two weeks long.. :shakehead
I should have waited until he dropped all of his good players Saturday night in an attempt to fill his roster for the supposed last day Sunday.
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Flyers over the Leafs 5-0 with 2 minutes left in the first
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Stupid Leafs.....start winning!!!!!


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