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Old 06-11-2022, 09:46 PM
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Bolts are back to the Final. Rangers were impressive and have nothing to feel bad about given the steps they've taken.

The hit on Hedman in this game is ehh...maybe something for the League to look at?



Anyways, onto the Avs vs. Bolts final...which will be probably insanity. I am going to pick the Nordiques in 6.

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Trouba with another headshot in game 6, glad to see the cheapshot artist sent to the golf course. Karma finally caught up to them. I think the Avs will decimate the Bolts. Avs in 6
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Trouba with another headshot in game 6, glad to see the cheapshot artist sent to the golf course. Karma finally caught up to them. I think the Avs will decimate the Bolts. Avs in 6
Except NO. comeonman! get off the nonsense, it is interference because he didn't have the puck anymore. Even the ESPN idiots say good hit, interference. Just stop.

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Rangers did not lose 4 in a row all season (until the ECF Finals)

On the bright side, I can now enjoy the games not caring who wins.
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"Oh another high hit by Jacob Trouba"

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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
"Oh another high hit by Jacob Trouba"
Yes, they first said that, because like you they are on the he's a baaaad guy train, THEN @:34 they say shoulder tucked in elbow down, HIT'S FINE, it's INTERFERENCE (NOT CALLED) but you go ahead & see what you want.

Really man, stop.

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I just hate predatory headshots, I don't feel like it belongs in the game. I agree that the hit on Perry was interference, but it was borderline and fits the pattern of high hits to the head. I took crap for years on here for having Matt Cooke on my team, and he cleaned up his act and changed the way he played, same with Kadri. I just wish Trouba would stop trying to take peoples' heads off, so sue me. In this playoffs alone, he elbowed Crosby and Guentzel in the back of the head, knocked Seth Jarvis out, put a really dirty hit on Domi, and continued elbowing and targeting the head in the ECF. It's dirty play and I don't like it, so I'm not sad to see your Rangers lose. He's not Tom Wilson, but he certainly has a pattern of headshots. This video summed up my issues pretty well, although they don't show the Domi hit, or the hits on Khaira and Kyrou, crap there's even more examples I'm not listing but I can go on. Regardless it's a pattern, and the slow motion of his elbow flying at Palat's head is scary to watch, thankfully he didn't make contact or who knows how bad it would have been.

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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
I just hate predatory headshots, I don't feel like it belongs in the game. I agree that the hit on Perry was interference, but it was borderline and fits the pattern of high hits to the head. I took crap for years on here for having Matt Cooke on my team, and he cleaned up his act and changed the way he played, same with Kadri. I just wish Trouba would stop trying to take peoples' heads off, so sue me. In this playoffs alone, he elbowed Crosby and Guentzel in the back of the head, knocked Seth Jarvis out, put a really dirty hit on Domi, and continued elbowing and targeting the head in the ECF. It's dirty play and I don't like it, so I'm not sad to see your Rangers lose. He's not Tom Wilson, but he certainly has a pattern of headshots. This video summed up my issues pretty well, although they don't show the Domi hit, or the hits on Khaira and Kyrou, crap there's even more examples I'm not listing but I can go on. Regardless it's a pattern, and the slow motion of his elbow flying at Palat's head is scary to watch, thankfully he didn't make contact or who knows how bad it would have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNIJiWf9eQ

You brought up this hit:

Now as you see you were wrong, instead of just saying so, you bring up a dozen others, NONE called and one missed.

Just stop, you don't like him, you have said so it's ok, I bet you would love to have him on your team. We are out, we beat your team get over it.

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lol, I said just another example. Whatever, I've said my peace, and don't have to watch him hit anyone else in the head in these playoffs, and keep shrugging off the flying elbow at Palat's head, that right there shows my issue with this guy. The end
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
lol, I said just another example. Whatever, I've said my peace, and don't have to watch him hit anyone else in the head in these playoffs, and keep shrugging off the flying elbow at Palat's head, that right there shows my issue with this guy. The end
Except it was not another example. No headshot. It was an uncalled interference.

The end.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Trouba with another headshot in game 6, glad to see the cheapshot artist sent to the golf course. Karma finally caught up to them. I think the Avs will decimate the Bolts. Avs in 6
That is not a headshot man. Completely shoulder to shoulder. Caught him good and caused some whiplash but definitely not a headshot.

I do hope we put MacD in to take him out.
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Trouba's hit is "clean" by definition as it's shoulder on shoulder.

But, he's a predatory player who has a pattern of trying to destroy the other person he's trying to lay the hit on. Clean or not...by NHL hitting standards. I have said I'm not a fan of his playing style as you can be hardnosed without the intent of murdering the other player (clean or not by NHL standards). Like, if say the guy's head is down (oops), he does not slow down...it's like, OH GOODIE...anyways, that's just me.

The Rangers were successful not because of his style of play, that's for sure.
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Old 06-13-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Trouba's hit is "clean" by definition as it's shoulder on shoulder.

But, he's a predatory player who has a pattern of trying to destroy the other person he's trying to lay the hit on. Clean or not...by NHL hitting standards. I have said I'm not a fan of his playing style as you can be hardnosed without the intent of murdering the other player (clean or not by NHL standards). Like, if say the guy's head is down (oops), he does not slow down...it's like, OH GOODIE...anyways, that's just me.

The Rangers were successful not because of his style of play, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
That is not a headshot man. Completely shoulder to shoulder. Caught him good and caused some whiplash but definitely not a headshot.

I do hope we put MacD in to take him out.
Shoulder to shoulder but makes contact with the head. It wasn't as egregious as his other hits, just another example on top of the dozen other elbows and blows to the head that he doled out during the playoffs. Whatever, I'm glad he's done
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Trouba's hit is "clean" by definition as it's shoulder on shoulder.

But, he's a predatory player who has a pattern of trying to destroy the other person he's trying to lay the hit on. Clean or not...by NHL hitting standards. I have said I'm not a fan of his playing style as you can be hardnosed without the intent of murdering the other player (clean or not by NHL standards). Like, if say the guy's head is down (oops), he does not slow down...it's like, OH GOODIE...anyways, that's just me.

The Rangers were successful not because of his style of play, that's for sure.
You have your head down you should expect to get blown up. I think that needs to stay part of the game. Laying big hits to the chest or shoulder I have no problem with. The rule is the initial contact point. It is almost impossible unless two players are the same height to lay a hit in those areas and not at least glance the head even a little. The point of the rule is to get rid of head first contact which I agree with doing. I have zero problem with that hit and if anyone else other than Trouba made that hit for 95% of people it isn't even getting talked about.

I am different though I miss the game from the 90s. So excited for the upcoming 2 hour E60 special on ESPN about the Colorado/Detroit rivalry.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Shoulder to shoulder but makes contact with the head. It wasn't as egregious as his other hits, just another example on top of the dozen other elbows and blows to the head that he doled out during the playoffs. Whatever, I'm glad he's done
You can say over & over chocolate is vanilla, but that does not make it so. There was no contact anywhere in that hit but shoulders.

There are now three people telling you that.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
You have your head down you should expect to get blown up. I think that needs to stay part of the game. Laying big hits to the chest or shoulder I have no problem with. The rule is the initial contact point. It is almost impossible unless two players are the same height to lay a hit in those areas and not at least glance the head even a little. The point of the rule is to get rid of head first contact which I agree with doing. I have zero problem with that hit and if anyone else other than Trouba made that hit for 95% of people it isn't even getting talked about.

I am different though I miss the game from the 90s. So excited for the upcoming 2 hour E60 special on ESPN about the Colorado/Detroit rivalry.
To a degree, I actually agree with you. You're talking about the rock 'em sock 'em play that many of us grew up watching from the 80s, 90s, and even 15 years ago (early 2000s). Scott Stevens, Jeff Beukeboom, Cam Neely, Shanny, Tony Twist, Rob Ray...just to name a few.

I remember them.

But, 80% of their hits that made the high-light real today would be illegal I think today. In this day and age of concussions and th discovery of CTE means the game has to change. I mean, just one example but look at what happened to Joe Murphy because of his CTE and what has happened to him as a person.

Anyways, I'm not asking for hitting to be removed from the sport but predatory hits where another player cannot remember what happened from that day afterwards do not belong.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
To a degree, I actually agree with you. You're talking about the rock 'em sock 'em play that many of us grew up watching from the 80s, 90s, and even 15 years ago (early 2000s). Scott Stevens, Jeff Beukeboom, Cam Neely, Shanny, Tony Twist, Rob Ray...just to name a few.

I remember them.

But, 80% of their hits that made the high-light real today would be illegal I think today. In this day and age of concussions and th discovery of CTE means the game has to change. I mean, just one example but look at what happened to Joe Murphy because of his CTE and what has happened to him as a person.

Anyways, I'm not asking for hitting to be removed from the sport but predatory hits where another player cannot remember what happened from that day afterwards do not belong.
There are a ton of things that are penalties/not allowed now that were not in 2000. For example, today any contact to any part of the hands is now a hook, the second goal in game 6 would have been disallowed back then etc.

I'm not arguing player safety needs to be enforced and I agree hits to the head are bad, but the thing that started this today is the insistence if Trouba looks at you, it's an illegal hit.
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There are a ton of things that are penalties/not allowed now that were not in 2000. For example, today any contact to any part of the hands is now a hook, the second goal in game 6 would have been disallowed back then etc.

I'm not arguing player safety needs to be enforced and I agree hits to the head are bad, but the thing that started this today is the insistence if Trouba looks at you, it's an illegal hit.
Nah, I don't see it that way about Trouba. As I discussed with you earlier in this thread, I'm not a fan of his antics and my perception that he feels the need to send the opposing player to next month. He does not. Like, that hit Palat ducked that we all saw? That was Trouba in a nutshell...looking punish someone overly. Again, I will say it: Not needed. Look at the Avs or the Bolts who've advanced...anyone on their teams with this constant need to send someone to next month? Sure, there were some dirty plays like MacK's slewfoot and even Landeskog's head-shot on Yamamoto...BUT, these guys don't do this with as much regularity as Trouba -- which is what my point about -- who looks to do it every time he steps on the ice.

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VGK -- the team everyone hates now -- has hired a new coach: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...as-head-coach/

So, Cassidy wasn't on the market for long. But, I think him going to a contendor was was always in the cards.
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It starts tonight. I hope my heart can take the stress of this series.
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It starts tonight. I hope my heart can take the stress of this series.
Well, your Nordiques have not played a playoff team like the Lightning, that's for sure.

This one will not be quite the track-meet style from what I can guess. And we actually, in this case, have an actual name-brand goalie who CAN steal games with Tampa. Still, personally, I think we've all seen enough of the Bolts winning the Cup now. Time for a new Champ. Go Nordiques! Tampa will have nightmares of playing the Hawks in the Final a few years ago as this Colorado team is just as fast and skilled...

Denver in 6.
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I think your Avs are unstoppable Jason, should be a fun series to watch. Avs in 6
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The Avs in 6 is my prediction as well. It wil defintiely be their toughest test for sure. They are going to have to win some closer games they they are used to. The Avs should also be the toughest team the Bolts have faced in the finals in my opinion as well. Ready for some excellent hockey.
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Man they made that stressful on me. Avs dominated a lot of possession but let up with the 2 goal lead. I hate when they take their foot off the gas. Their best hockey is when they are pressing.

Bolts and Vasi brought it after that first 10min.
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3 more wins to go, Colts...it's close!
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I only caught the third and OT, but what a game and what a series! I haven't missed a cup final since I was 4 years old and I'm looking forward to watching some good hockey
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It was a great game & I'm able to enjoy the game when I don't care.

Go AVS!

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It was a great game & I'm able to enjoy the game when I don't care.

Go AVS!

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I have watched this team put up TDs all season. I did not expect them to do it against the Lightning at all. The domination they are showing is unreal.

Hope they can keep it up for at least one of the games in Tampa.
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I have watched this team put up TDs all season. I did not expect them to do it against the Lightning at all. The domination they are showing is unreal.

Hope they can keep it up for at least one of the games in Tampa.
TD and extra point...

The Bolts are not dead yet but now, here comes the odds: Can Tampa beat the Avs 4 times in 5 games? Ehhh...doubtful.

Anyways, 2 more wins to go!
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