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Old 05-27-2022, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
I have no issue with physical play, I've watched hockey all my life. What I don't like is targeting of the head and cheapshots. You act like the Department of Player Safety actually does anything lol it's a joke

You can't deny that the whole series changed after Crosby got knocked out with that elbow to the head either. Pens were on their way to eliminating the Rags till that dirty play, and many non Pens fans have told me that as well
This.

I have zero issues with hard-nosed play. Solid body checks are solid body checks...but, why is it Trouba is always borderline? Plenty of hard-hitting players who don't cross the line IMO.
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
I have no issue with physical play, I've watched hockey all my life. What I don't like is targeting of the head and cheapshots. You act like the Department of Player Safety actually does anything lol it's a joke

You can't deny that the whole series changed after Crosby got knocked out with that elbow to the head either. Pens were on their way to eliminating the Rags till that dirty play, and many non Pens fans have told me that as well
Wow, that's a lot of sour grapes & sore loserism.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
This.

I have zero issues with hard-nosed play. Solid body checks are solid body checks...but, why is it Trouba is always borderline? Plenty of hard-hitting players who don't cross the line IMO.
Ok, I am not saying I like dirty play, I am saying the rules are the rules and none of the hits you guys are harping about have so much as gotten a 2-minute minor.
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Also, what about game 7? You had Sid back. What happened there?
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Okay...Avs have taken cared of the Boos.

Nate Mac versus McJesus. Here we go.

My pick: Colorado in 6.

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Goodrow is back. First game since game 1 against Pittsburgh when he was injured on a hockey play.
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Woot! Staying alive! Now we need to do the seemingly impossible.
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Trouba again with a head-hunting hit.

That said, lots to like with the Rangers game overall...happy for Breadman...congrats on advancing, cabby.
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The reward for advancing...the Bolts. Yow...road to the Cup for Oilers and NYR are steep...very steep...

My pick: Bolts in 6 against NYR.

I'd said previously it's Nordiques in 6 against McDavid. Cup pick: Denver in 7 over Bolts.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Trouba again with a head-hunting hit.

That said, lots to like with the Rangers game overall...happy for Breadman...congrats on advancing, cabby.
Dude enough. Even ESPN's idiotic announcers said it was a legal CLEAN hit.

Originally Posted by Yumcha
The reward for advancing...the Bolts. Yow...road to the Cup for Oilers and NYR are steep...very steep...

My pick: Bolts in 6 against NYR.

I'd said previously it's Nordiques in 6 against McDavid. Cup pick: Denver in 7 over Bolts.
Please keep picking the other team, so far you are 0-2 in the Rangers series.
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WOOT!






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Rangers vs Lightning: Rangers Sweep Season Series Over Tampa Bay Lightning



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Melrose who hates the Rangers & called the game for Carolina just said the hit was not dirty.

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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Dude enough. Even ESPN's idiotic announcers said it was a legal CLEAN hit.


You know...you're exactly like some hockey fans that just make me shake my head...I can't say ONE thing about ANY one player on the team you cheer and OMG...it's like I insulted the ENTIRE squad. Did you read my entire post? I like alot of the Rangers...happy for Breadman. Chill.

But...that said, I am not a fan of Trouba even if he was not on your beloved Blueshirts, okay? His hits are questionable and that's another keyword...it's borderline which doesn't need to go that way to have the same sort of wallop. He's a big strong guy...doesn't have to play that way. Kreider is also dogged and hardhitting do you hear me complain about his play? OH SHIRT...YUMCHA MAYBE ISN'T A HATER?!??

I have said I have no skin in this game. Relax. Not trying to pick against your team because I hate them. I just go with what I see on paper and as a hockey fan...yeesh. Canes were impressive all year and thought they'd be in the Conference Finals. But, I would never have picked them over the Bolts either.
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You know...you're exactly like some hockey fans that just make me shake my head...I can't say ONE thing about ANY one player on the team you cheer and OMG...it's like I insulted the ENTIRE squad. Did you read my entire post? I like alot of the Rangers...happy for Breadman. Chill.

But...that said, I am not a fan of Trouba even if he was not on your beloved Blueshirts, okay? His hits are questionable and that's another keyword...it's borderline which doesn't need to go that way to have the same sort of wallop. He's a big strong guy...doesn't have to play that way. Kreider is also dogged and hardhitting do you hear me complain about his play? OH SHIRT...YUMCHA MAYBE ISN'T A HATER?!??

I have said I have no skin in this game. Relax. Not trying to pick against your team because I hate them. I just go with what I see on paper and as a hockey fan...yeesh. Canes were impressive all year and thought they'd be in the Conference Finals. But, I would never have picked them over the Bolts either.
Woah, hit a nerve? You keep acting like he killed a nun. He plays hard hockey. It has not been one thing it’s every time he makes an impactful hit. Until tonight I just responded no call no supplemental. Tonight was a simple check maybe you just have a blind hate of trouba?

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Woah, hit a nerve? You keep acting like he killed a nun. He plays hard hockey. It has not been one thing it’s every time he makes an impactful hit. Until tonight I just responded no call no supplemental. Tonight was a simple check maybe you just have a blind hate of trouba?

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What nerve...?

You're the guy who said 'enough' about my commentary just above?

But, yes...to confirm, I don't like Trouba. I thought it was abundantly clear I wasn't a fan of Trouba's hockey-style? And how long have you known me on here? If I don't like something (see Apple, LeLakers, Deano-this-deano-that), I'm going to repeat myself.


Again, relax...my dislike of his play doesn't equate to me thinking your Rangers suck because it seems you're taking it that way. Review your my posts about your team and you should know I'm pretty impressed with them and their quick turnaround.
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Man the Canes really shit the bed. Not being able to win a road playoff game and having that different stats home and away is awful. Then again also really hard to win a series with your second and third string goalie.
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@ Game 1 tonight. Should be darn good TV!
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Definitely looking forward to it. In the west you have two of the best forwards in the game going head to head and in the east you have two of the best goalies going head to head. Should be two interesting series.
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
What nerve...?

You're the guy who said 'enough' about my commentary just above?

But, yes...to confirm, I don't like Trouba. I thought it was abundantly clear I wasn't a fan of Trouba's hockey-style? And how long have you known me on here? If I don't like something (see Apple, LeLakers, Deano-this-deano-that), I'm going to repeat myself.


Again, relax...my dislike of his play doesn't equate to me thinking your Rangers suck because it seems you're taking it that way. Review your my posts about your team and you should know I'm pretty impressed with them and their quick turnaround.
Lots to unpack. How long have you known me? Am I a guy that just argues? You have made clear you dislike Trouba, everyone is entitled to their opinion. He gets things done, How about the borderline boarding that was not called on Lindgren causing him to need to be helped off the ice? No call (and there should not have been) It was a hockey play, it's a tough sport.

When did I say you said the Rangers suck? Never.

You keep saying Troubas hits are bad, If I disagree I'll keep saying so. As I said last night, even Melrose who absolutely hates the Rangers (blames them for his firing from the Kings) said it was a clean hit (last night)



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One more takeaway...anytime we are rid of DeAngelo, it's a good thing.

Still can't believe the Canes signed him.
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One more takeaway...anytime we are rid of DeAngelo, it's a good thing.

Still can't believe the Canes signed him.
But Trouba is still playing....
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One more takeaway...anytime we are rid of DeAngelo, it's a good thing.

Still can't believe the Canes signed him.
There we agree 100% & I said so when he was a Ranger. Hate that punk.
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Though I'm picking the Bolts because on paper, they appear stronger, the battle in goale with Igor and Vas is going to be a marquee fight. Fox isn't quite there but him up against Hedman is another...

I think the factor for Rangers' success and advancing is finding a way to nullify Tampa's insane depth assuming the top 2 lines (like in most playoffs) wipe/cancel each other out. It will be entertaining.



The game tonight is not as close if at all paper. Avs have ONE JOB to do: And it's freaking obvious. I also believe Denver has the best home-ice because of the altitude adjustment. I would be surprised if Oilers return home with the series tied or up. Avs will hold home ice for sure.
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I feel like we are playing with house money. They are at least 2 years ahead of schedule & getting this experience is great.

I am thrilled they are still alive and if they go in 4 I'll still be proud as hell of their season.

I'm not that crazy fan that thinks their team's sh!t does not stink. I know where the issues are and hope they can overcome them.
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I feel like we are playing with house money. They are at least 2 years ahead of schedule & getting this experience is great.

I am thrilled they are still alive and if they go in 4 I'll still be proud as hell of their season.

I'm not that crazy fan that thinks their team's sh!t does not stink. I know where the issues are and hope they can overcome them.
Making it past the Canes was a feat in itself. So, now...if I can draw on my own observations of the Hawks, it's possible that Tampa is the Rangers' Red Wings...that hump they must get over. This will be their first shot at it and so, we'll see.

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Entertaining Game 1...even though Oilers found ways to make it interesting, I honestly never felt like the Avs were going to lose their grip on the game.

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I hate complaining about refs but really mcjesus being able to cross check a guy down and then sit on him for 5 seconds is a bit much.

That was stressful. You would think a 4 goal lead at 7-3 shouldn't be stressful but it was.
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Crazy game, lots of goals. I'm shocked Edmonton was able to keep up in that altitude, the first game.

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Crazy game, lots of goals. I'm shocked Edmonton was able to keep up in that altitude, the first game.
This. I am honestly...frankly, shocked at their resilience. But, you have some character guys who just keep motoring like Hyman on the team and even Keith with his years and years of playoffs...so, it's gotta help I think have an effect on the bench.

I think the game changed a bit too when Avs lost Kuemper but I think ultimately, the depth they have on lines 3 and 4 are the differences here against Edmonton? We'll see...Calgary won a nutbar Game 1 and we all knew what happened. It now comes to what Denver will do in Game 2 and if they can keep a lead if they get one. They proved they could today so, now, they need to do it again.

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Crazy game, lots of goals. I'm shocked Edmonton was able to keep up in that altitude, the first game.
I am not as much surprised about it compared to other teams coming to Colorado. Edmonton is by no means an area high up compared to Denver but when you compare it to other cities it is not nearly as drastic of a change for them coming in. Edmonton is at 2116ft. Most NHL cities are at 250ft elevation or less.

There are only 11 arenas that are higher than 500ft elevation and only 3 higher than 1000ft which are Colorado, Calgary, and Edmonton in declining order.



Could it have an effect as the series goes on possibly but not sure it will as much as say if Colorado makes it to the cup finals and New York or Tampa have to come to Colorado to play.
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Game 1 Ranger/Bolts should be really fun too. The final 4 is always some good TV watching...

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Game 1 Ranger/Bolts should be really fun too. The final 4 is always some good TV watching...
I expect the complete opposite of last night's game. A goalie duel with a 1-0 final score. Still should be extremely entertaining.
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I expect the complete opposite of last night's game. A goalie duel with a 1-0 final score. Still should be extremely entertaining.
Yeah...it could very well be just that. I'm calling it a 3-2 game for the victor. It will be a tight one I think...definitely not the wide-open game we saw.

Which...leads me to the question: When was the last time a Cup Finalist had this many games where the opponents scored a TD and more on them (i.e. Edmonton)...? Like yikes, team defense, anyone? O_o
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It is definitely a crazy play style. It might work against the Rangers but I definitely don't think that type of game stands a chance against Tampa. Both teams would get swept.

I have no idea why Colorado stopped the deep cycle game they played in the first period. There was nothing that showed it wouldn't continue to work. The run and gun for the entire game is not going to be a good plan for the entire series.
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
It is definitely a crazy play style. It might work against the Rangers but I definitely don't think that type of game stands a chance against Tampa. Both teams would get swept.

I have no idea why Colorado stopped the deep cycle game they played in the first period. There was nothing that showed it wouldn't continue to work. The run and gun for the entire game is not going to be a good plan for the entire series.
Like...I think it was hard on you because it's your team. But, watching as a casual observer, there was NEVER a point IMO where the game was in doubt by your Avs. That first goal by the dipsh*t Evander? The Avs went, okay...better get serious. Scored right away in 30 seconds. It was this way up until it was 2-2...then, your team went, okay enough...and then piled it on. Once it was 7-3, I think Denver started to coast and get loose (too easy?) and yeah, allowed Edmonton to claw back within 1 goal but even then, I honestly felt it the outcome was never in doubt. There was never really any sustained pressure and the Avs had really good active sticks and stole the puck to counter with regularity on Edmonton.

There was no sustained McJesus/Draisaitl plays in the Avalanche zone that I saw against Flames and Kings.
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