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Old 01-23-2009, 06:35 PM
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Looks cool, should make the banner into a sticker. Thats a cool looking design.



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Good angel ( should you be really buying stuff when you are unemployeed?)
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I still pay all the damn bills and buy all the damn food....so it was a gift to myself.


Just dont tell the Girl lol
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you can sneak that stuff by? My wife would destroy! lol
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sT04Louis- i think i spotted your car today going west on 217. I was heading home early from work the other way at around 140 or so.


to those that asked about polishing... lol i would do it on the side but the lady would kill me. too much time on cars and not enough for her.
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you can sneak that stuff by? My wife would destroy! lol
Havnt been caught so far... lol

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sT04Louis- i think i spotted your car today going west on 217. I was heading home early from work the other way at around 140 or so.


to those that asked about polishing... lol i would do it on the side but the lady would kill me. too much time on cars and not enough for her.
Wasnt me, only left my place to go to Taco Bell. Possibly Min, we have similar set ups.

Thats too bad about polishing, i wanna get my intake mani polished.
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sT04Louis- i think i spotted your car today going west on 217. I was heading home early from work the other way at around 140 or so.


to those that asked about polishing... lol i would do it on the side but the lady would kill me. too much time on cars and not enough for her.
I hear that same story all the time HAHA... car this car that.. what about me? what about what i wanna do... I just do the ass remark and say you married me knowing what i do. haha that either upsets her more or makes her shut up.. depending on time of the month.. but usually just need to take her out for a nice dinner date and all is well..
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Havnt been caught so far... lol



Wasnt me, only left my place to go to Taco Bell. Possibly Min, we have similar set ups.

Thats too bad about polishing, i wanna get my intake mani polished.
how bad is your intake? mine is lightly dirty/faded and thinking about polishing it up this spring.. if it goes well ill help you out.. if you havent done it by then gotta get ready for PIR soon haha
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all I get to do is clean my car now lol, she says if we have more kids she'll let me play, its like collateral -or- blackmail depending how you look at it
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more kids? haha how is that fair? thats just more work for both of ya.. get a dog they are easier to maintain.. and you only have to worry about the puppy stage for a few months.
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man we already have a dog! It's old news now lol Need more babies I guess. She told me today I could get a motorcycle if I have more kids! LOL I might just have to take her up on that deal

Anyone go to the meet today? Sorry I didn't make it.
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no meet for me... isnt it like 15K to pop a baby out? seems cheaper just to get her a diamond ring.. and buy your bike and call it good
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anywhere from 10K - 25K and more

Preston cost about 12K.

But every child will cost you 200K in your life time lol
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damn.. no wonder people go broke having kids haha more of the reason to go make myself steril haha
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so friday morning right before heading out to the beach i go through my guage displays and temperture shows (---).. i'm like aww man one of thoes tsb's i read b4 oh well right?... kinda chilly so turned on the heater... didnt work.. wtf good day to have this problem (another tsb) anyway didnt have time to bring it in so just scheduled for next sat... on the way back i had my friend drive and found out he counldn't adjust the power mirrors. weird thing is when i put in reverse the setting for the right one still moved. so now i have the hazards, trunk light, temp gauge, no climate control, and mirrors dont adjust.... greattttttttt

awesome weekend thoe. sup oregon
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^^ woah, sounds like your electrical system is freaking out
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^^ woah, sounds like your electrical system is freaking out
tell me about it!!! mann!! good thing it wasn't pouring or anything so i can crack the window a lil bit everytime it fogs up a lil bit... no climate control FTL
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are you still under warranty?
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sounds like major electrical issues.. that really sucks!! may just walk out to your car 1 day and it wont start
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are you still under warranty?
should be, i brought it in for the rear deck rattle and a few other rattles not too long ago with no charge.
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all I get to do is clean my car now lol, she says if we have more kids she'll let me play, its like collateral -or- blackmail depending how you look at it
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more kids? haha how is that fair? thats just more work for both of ya.. get a dog they are easier to maintain.. and you only have to worry about the puppy stage for a few months.
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man we already have a dog! It's old news now lol Need more babies I guess. She told me today I could get a motorcycle if I have more kids! LOL I might just have to take her up on that deal
Anyone go to the meet today? Sorry I didn't make it.
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no meet for me... isnt it like 15K to pop a baby out? seems cheaper just to get her a diamond ring.. and buy your bike and call it good
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anywhere from 10K - 25K and more

Preston cost about 12K.

But every child will cost you 200K in your life time lol
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damn.. no wonder people go broke having kids haha more of the reason to go make myself steril haha
Holy baby chat..... BabyZine . com?
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my front plate is off once again. lets see how long it'll last this time
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^^had mine off for months now no trouble *knock on wood
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all I get to do is clean my car now lol, she says if we have more kids she'll let me play, its like collateral -or- blackmail depending how you look at it
oh dont do it...
thats a horrible deal...just buy stuff for the car anyways lol


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Anyone go to the meet today? Sorry I didn't make it.
tons and tons of ppl there...i think i was the only TL i saw - and no TSX's??? slackers!

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anywhere from 10K - 25K and more

Preston cost about 12K.

But every child will cost you 200K in your life time lol
whoa wait are you saying 12k like just to have a kid??? dr bills such to just get the woman to pop it out?? or are you sayin like so far??

this is why i will only have one child and one child only and he better be a boy! cuz otherwise idk what the hell to do im too selfish to ever have 2 lol i love MY car too much...id sorta be out of options...

and i spoted someone getting on 217 sat...im guessing Min?? i was putting an address in my nav so it was a last minute oh snap --->TL...
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^^ 12K in hospital fee's. That counts for one normal birth, no complications, epidural, 3 day stay.

I probably now alone if you add in day care spend around 1200 - 1300 a month on just my son, the rest goes to food, wifey needs, and occasionally some crap for myself lol
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damn kids are expensive.. haha and yes it turned to baby chat for a bit.. arent our cars our babies? haha
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Yeah, kids can cost a lot at first. Diapers, food, daycare, toys and new clothes every month can add up, but for most part are relatively inexpensive. Kids get more expensive when they hit the teenage years and they can't work yet.

My two teenage boys are into their electronic toys, sports, girls, etc. And they're always hungry. It's all good though 'cause they're good kids, get good grades, are good athletes (lacrosse, basketball and football - always start), love my wife and I and the Lord. We're blessed!
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Do you guys have anything going on next week? If you don't, set something up.

I'll be there this weekend through next week. Mcminnville and Portland area, w00t!
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Do you guys have anything going on next week? If you don't, set something up.

I'll be there this weekend through next week. Mcminnville and Portland area, w00t!
You're from Anaheim Hills? I used to live in Anaheim, near Ball Road and Sunkist, just off the 57. I had a lot of friends that went to Canyon HS that I worked with at the McDonalds across from the Orange Mall on Tustin Ave, back in the 80's.

There was some talk of a meet a couple of pages ago in this thread. I normally don't participate in those - my TL-S is pretty plain next to the TLs and TSXs in this thread, so nothing to show off.

What are you coming up here for?

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Snowwwwwwwwwwwww

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Snowwwwwwwwwwwww

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I didn't see any snow this morning on my commute...at 5:45am lol
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yeah snowing here in hillsboro, but every news channel says by mid morning it'll be rain with highs in the low 40's

crossing my fingers over here LOL I HATE THIS FECKING WEATHER
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Originally Posted by clee109
^^ 12K in hospital fee's. That counts for one normal birth, no complications, epidural, 3 day stay.

I probably now alone if you add in day care spend around 1200 - 1300 a month on just my son, the rest goes to food, wifey needs, and occasionally some crap for myself lol
12k after insurance ?? --- should have aflac if you plan on more kids they pay out the ass if you have the "baby" plan...but you have to have it a year in advance.

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yeah snowing here in hillsboro, but every news channel says by mid morning it'll be rain with highs in the low 40's

crossing my fingers over here LOL I HATE THIS FECKING WEATHER

snow here in downtown too...still on the ground but isn't falling...ugh i wish it would just snow like 3 feet!!!
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12k after insurance ?? --- should have aflac if you plan on more kids they pay out the ass if you have the "baby" plan...but you have to have it a year in advance.




snow here in downtown too...still on the ground but isn't falling...ugh i wish it would just snow like 3 feet!!!
cleared up now... i'm glad it did... work woulda sucked...

eh... any of you 3rd gen tl ppl have had or heard of the problems i'm getting??? stated up above ^^^ post #2175
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yea i am sure we will get more snow later..


found out bummer new that the wife is getting laid off so now we have to cut back on expenses =( this economy blows!!!
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yea i am sure we will get more snow later..


found out bummer new that the wife is getting laid off so now we have to cut back on expenses =( this economy blows!!!

economy is way way too bad and unemployment is skyrocketing... this is some nasty shit...

only stuff in the business section of newspapers are lay off here and there, bankruptcy, dow plummeting
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my front plate is off once again. lets see how long it'll last this time
Havnt had mine on since i moved up here from texas...no problems, even when pulled over

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^^ 12K in hospital fee's. That counts for one normal birth, no complications, epidural, 3 day stay.
I probably now alone if you add in day care spend around 1200 - 1300 a month on just my son, the rest goes to food, wifey needs, and occasionally some crap for myself lol
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damn kids are expensive.. haha and yes it turned to baby chat for a bit.. arent our cars our babies? haha
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Yeah, kids can cost a lot at first. Diapers, food, daycare, toys and new clothes every month can add up, but for most part are relatively inexpensive. Kids get more expensive when they hit the teenage years and they can't work yet.
My two teenage boys are into their electronic toys, sports, girls, etc. And they're always hungry. It's all good though 'cause they're good kids, get good grades, are good athletes (lacrosse, basketball and football - always start), love my wife and I and the Lord. We're blessed!
Thanks for making me never want a kid....

I always joke that if i ever have a kid, everyone will know because ill have a for sale sign on my car.

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Do you guys have anything going on next week? If you don't, set something up.

I'll be there this weekend through next week. Mcminnville and Portland area, w00t!
Only thing going on is rain :thumbsdow:

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found out bummer new that the wife is getting laid off so now we have to cut back on expenses =( this economy blows!!!
Dude....that sucks. Now is not the time to try and find a new job. Trust me.

Tell her to get on unemployment quick, they have been swamped lately and getting through on the phone is near impossible. Ive done all my stuff online...which even that has been going down a lot lately.

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economy is way way too bad and unemployment is skyrocketing... this is some nasty shit...
only stuff in the business section of newspapers are lay off here and there, bankruptcy, dow plummeting
No shit, i send out multiple resumes weekly and i get nothing in return. Since ive been laid off i had one interview.

Btw...when you want to meet up for your Race Pipe?
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^^^Longest post in the world!

Economy is terrible!!!!! Obama better get his shit together he has one chance to try and fix it and all I've seen is his thumb up his ass since the election flip flopping on all of his initiatives.

Sorry to hear about your wife Brandon.

On a lighter note, the JDMLove redesign is complete: http://www.jdmlove.org
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12k after insurance ?? --- should have aflac if you plan on more kids they pay out the ass if you have the "baby" plan...but you have to have it a year in advance.




snow here in downtown too...still on the ground but isn't falling...ugh i wish it would just snow like 3 feet!!!
Insurance PAID the 12K lol just illustrating the costs and if you didn't have health insurance you'd have to take a loan, which would be impossible now lol so you'd have to perform a bathtub/backyard delivery
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Havnt had mine on since i moved up here from texas...no problems, even when pulled over





Thanks for making me never want a kid....

I always joke that if i ever have a kid, everyone will know because ill have a for sale sign on my car.



Only thing going on is rain :thumbsdow:



Dude....that sucks. Now is not the time to try and find a new job. Trust me.

Tell her to get on unemployment quick, they have been swamped lately and getting through on the phone is near impossible. Ive done all my stuff online...which even that has been going down a lot lately.



No shit, i send out multiple resumes weekly and i get nothing in return. Since ive been laid off i had one interview.

Btw...when you want to meet up for your Race Pipe?


luckily they gave her 2weeks notice.. bummer is its right before valentines day..
i have the joy of probably the best job security which is fraud prevention for a bank haha.. and last time i checked its still booming


she was on unemployment about a year ago so they still might have her in the system to reactivate it.. so it should be easier this time
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