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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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ipods suck. they havent improved the most basic things like adding a custom EQ (one example). So dont tell me they "got better" over the years. Color screen, BFD. video, bfd all the other players have it too. Take a GUI from a Cowon or Meizu and it BLOWS AWAY apple's archaic ipod gui, hands down. In that regard, yes, all they have been doing is adding more space.

The PS3 had a rough start, - in a year or 2 I think the story will be different. Sony had to make changes to reduce production costs because they admittedly were taking a huge hit. By the way - currently it costs 1/2 the amount it costed to produce a PS3 initially.
ipods sucks because you are an audiophile and whine and bitch about the EQ...

They added color screens, bigger screens, thinner, smaller casings, the ipod touch, switching to SSD. I never said the ipod was the best overall. But they are number 1, and each change has brought on enough of difference from the last to warrant demand. And they don't update or refresh the ipods THAT often. every 6 months to a year which is about right for technology.

Big deal the cost of production came down. They are still losing money on them.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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and this isnt an apple argument. So quit trying to veer in that direction because you cant come up with enough excuses for the ps3.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Big deal the cost of production came down. They are still losing money on them.


But, does that make the product lousy...?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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But, does that make the product lousy...?
That fact of whether or not the PS3 is lousy isn't even part of this debate.

Keep instigating and I will shove one of your gundams so far up your ass you'll be able to tell me one it was when you look in the mirror and go ahhhhhh
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
ipods sucks because you are an audiophile and whine and bitch about the EQ...

They added color screens, bigger screens, thinner, smaller casings, the ipod touch, switching to SSD. I never said the ipod was the best overall. But they are number 1, and each change has brought on enough of difference from the last to warrant demand. And they don't update or refresh the ipods THAT often. every 6 months to a year which is about right for technology.

Big deal the cost of production came down. They are still losing money on them.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
That fact of whether or not the PS3 is lousy isn't even part of this debate.

Keep instigating and I will shove one of your gundams so far up your ass you'll be able to tell me one it was when you look in the mirror and go ahhhhhh


Don't hit me.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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So, if srika is Dhalsim...who is Sarlacc? Zangief...?







ROUND 1: Fight!
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Sarlacc is Vega.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
With a videogame console that is just swapping out HD sizes, etc etc, I dont see it as just natural progression they arent adding anything in particular to enhance the machines.

They just know they are trailing the pack in video game sales and have to keep trying to entice new buyers. Yet with as quickly as they are swapping drives, they are screwing prior purchasers.

And yes srika...apple did it with the iphone and pissed many people, myself not being one of them. But thats about the one "boo boo" they made like that, and they made reparations to the masses for it.

technology progression didn't really pertain to what they change....just that things get cheaper to build, etc.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
technology progression didn't really pertain to what they change....just that things get cheaper to build, etc.
exactly...though i wouldnt really putter it towards cheaper to build as more as "need to entice new buyers"

All in all, especially compared to the wii and the 360 the ps3 has been a flop...now that bluray is taking off people are starting to say ok, im buying one as a player.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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I owned the 360 the first year it came out. I listened to all thsoe people that said "it's a flop; look, there are no games available; no one is going to want to pay that much for a system, etc, etc."

After a 1-2 years it all worked out. While the PS3 is a little slower in doing this...I definately think it's on the right track...and would say it's anything but a flop (yes, it hasn't met expectations, but it is improving".

The Wii isn't in the same class as either...it is a much different type of unit at a much different price point.



And actually, i'd put a lot of it at "cheaper to build"...but some of the reasoning it is now cheaper to build is to "entice new buyers"



I don't know anyone who isn't really happy w/ their PS3. I know some 360 owners that bought one too and don't use it....but I see no reason to have both units....so many of the games available are on both systems, etc.


I will admit, Xbox has done more w/ it's XBL.....but it did take some time to get there.....The Playstation Network has improved a bunch since the initial launch.



The PS3 isn't going anywhere, it is here to stay and it will be successful
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
The PS3 isn't going anywhere, it is here to stay and it will be successful
That sentence is gonna be a very sharp dagger in some people's hearts, CLpower...sharp dagger.

You're heartless. And insensitive.













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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
That sentence is gonna be a very sharp dagger in some people's hearts, CLpower...sharp dagger.

You're heartless. And insensitive.






And let's be honest, the 360 has been one of the most unreliable consoles in history (and I LIKE the 360)



I will admit, I had a problem w/ my sixxaxis controller about 3 weeks ago because one of the joysticks would move to the right. called sony, took about 15 minutes w/ CS......sent it in....literally had a brand new controller at my door 4 days later.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Anyone here know if the PS3 component cable is backwards-compatible with the PS2? A Google search turned up nothing, but I'm gonna try again after this post ..

I just bought a new 32" TV and a PS3 will be out of my range until summertime .. Just thought I'd take FULL advantage of the PS2 while I still have it.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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^ mystikk...no idea. My PS3 is hooked to the TV via HDMI and the PS2 is using S-Video...
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mystikk
Anyone here know if the PS3 component cable is backwards-compatible with the PS2? A Google search turned up nothing, but I'm gonna try again after this post ..

I just bought a new 32" TV and a PS3 will be out of my range until summertime .. Just thought I'd take FULL advantage of the PS2 while I still have it.
yup same cable

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/11/ps...posite-cables/
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mystikk
Anyone here know if the PS3 component cable is backwards-compatible with the PS2? A Google search turned up nothing, but I'm gonna try again after this post ..

I just bought a new 32" TV and a PS3 will be out of my range until summertime .. Just thought I'd take FULL advantage of the PS2 while I still have it.
yes the component and composite cables are the same

i had the component cables for my PS2 and they work fine with the PS3, in fact i never even bothered to touch the composite cables that came with the PS3
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Cool, they're backwards compatible, thanks guys .. The PS2 components are a few dollars less than the PS3's, but they're probably hard to come by nowadays, which is why I asked.
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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how you doin'? :wink:
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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guess I'm gonna wait just a little longer...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/01/i...ng-a-redesign/

Is Sony's PS3 getting a redesign?



According to T3 magazine and a "particularly well-informed insider," the PS3 is due not just for hard drive updates, but a total design revamp down to a slimmer and smaller package sometime in the Fall. If you believe what you read, the refreshed console will sport all the same specs, but will receive a fresh coat of paint, a trip through the shrinking machine, and probably a lightened load. Of course, this is all just wild speculation coupled with salacious, magazine-selling 3D renders of the phantom device, as Sony denies the existence of an update and we don't really know who this source is. On the other hand, the company pulls this kind of ditzy "who me?" stuff whenever it's got a new product up its sleeve -- though we're not feeling the timing on this shocker.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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f'ing sony
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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yea.. they are pretty bad. this is speculation but is it hard to believe they will do it...
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Okay, I'll say it before anyone else: Sony sucks...dingdongs.


There. Hope those who wanted to say it are happy now.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Doesn't surprise me one bit since they did that to the PS2.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Took a while for them to pull out PS2Slim though ..

First words when I saw that pic: "oh my. "

What to do, what to do .. if it's confirmed, looks like I'm waiting til fall ..
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
guess I'm gonna wait just a little longer...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/01/i...ng-a-redesign/
Fuckers! I want the new one.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Is GT5 out yet?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Is GT5 out yet?
WHERE...!?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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They'll do it eventually I'm sure, just as they did with the Ps2 and the PS, but those slimming downs came well into the life-cycle of the consoles. It's been just over a year since the PS3 came out, way too early for something like this.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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always thought the Gen1 looked a bit too bloated.. and let's face it, physical look is a big part of devices such as this. Slim = gold. I think this will help PS3 sales a lot.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by uzzmaan
They'll do it eventually I'm sure, just as they did with the Ps2 and the PS, but those slimming downs came well into the life-cycle of the consoles. It's been just over a year since the PS3 came out, way too early for something like this.
The difference is, with the PS2, Sony dominated the market and had no real reason to "improve" it. The playing field is wholly different now, Sony needs to add some more 'incentive' to get people to buy the blasted thing.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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always thought the Gen1 looked a bit too bloated.. and let's face it, physical look is a big part of devices such as this. Slim = gold. I think this will help PS3 sales a lot.
Not if the 360 decides to go on a diet.




Just sayin'.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Not if the 360 decides to go on a diet.

Just sayin'.
I think the Automotive forum is calling you. Go there, at once. Thx. Andale (sp?)
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Is it going to be physically possible though? My PS3 weighs a ton, and even given the advances in technology, where would they cut down the size from so drastically within such a small time frame?
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I was wondering about that too.. and, I was thinking, they may have to cut or limit some functionality in order to do that - and that would suck - if its substantial I would probably pick up the Gen1 while its available.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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I don't know about that. They're pretty close to losing this generation to Microsoft, and limiting functionality would be handing over first place to Microsoft on a silver platter. It's an excellent console, but Sony has just managed to screw itself every possible way during the marketing of the product.
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they already removed the Emotion engine, things like that.
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