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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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They will probably release a HDMI compoent cable for 360 soon enough.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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1080p via component is useless b/c no TV supports 1080p via component.

Some do.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SRK85
They will probably release a HDMI compoent cable for 360 soon enough.

Supposedly MS has said they can offer HDMI for the 360, the question is when.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SRK85
They will probably release a HDMI compoent cable for 360 soon enough.


No such thing. Either the cable is HDMI or component... can't be both. And the 360 does not have an HDMI port.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Some do.
I'm sure there are, but honestly, I haven't seen one that supports true 1080p via component. If they are out there, they're very expensive and only sold at high end stores. The sets sold at stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, and so on do not. Only the VGA or HDMI support true 1080p. On the other inputs, including component, they just upconvert the signal to 1080p, so it's not true 1080p unless you're connected via VGA or HDMI.

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Supposedly MS has said they can offer HDMI for the 360, the question is when.
Maybe down the road they're planning to update the system like Sony did with the PS2 and made the slim PS2 with built-in network adapter... b/c the current 360 units do not have an HDMI port, so I can't see how they're going to offer HDMI without a redesign.

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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maybe itll be an add-on, like Sega 32x or Sega CD. ;p
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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^ Well they could have incorporated HDMI into the HD-DVD add-on, but for some reason they didn't. I still may scoop it up and hook up the 360 with the HD-DVD to the 720p set using components (which is how it's hooked up now). We'll see.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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My bad but why does 360 need a support port cant you use the regular av switch on the 360 with a hdmi cable and audio output?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SRK85
My bad but why does 360 need a support port cant you use the regular av switch on the 360 with a hdmi cable and audio output?
I'm not sure I understand your question... but an HDMI port is needed for an HDMI cable. With no HDMI port on the 360 it's impossible to use an HDMI cable b/c there is no where on the 360 to plug it in.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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There are wild rumors, and there are interesting rumors, but here's a doozy for ya: Xbox Live could soon start vending HD movie content, according to one freshly minted Wordpress blog (take that for what it's worth). According to Shsibae (huh?), over 1000+ hours of video will make its way onto Live for rental at about $4 a go, or for purchase (at an unstated price). Hard to imagine Xbox 360 doing for PC-free online movie downloads what all the other companies couldn't or haven't (we're looking at you TiVo, Netflix, iTV, etc.), but then again Microsoft did start up with that Xbox Live music video download thing last year. Seriously though, what a coup would that be if Microsoft swooped in to make the Xbox 360 the premier digital content hub -- with or without HD DVD -- right underneath Sony's nose at the eve of their PlayStation 3 launch? We just hope Microsoft would have a larger drive waiting in the wings if this one turns up roses though, our 20GB is already packed to the gills with game demos.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/02/x...vie-downloads/
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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i would fall for the 4 dollar thing,

it is a 24 hour rental though, still I haven't been to blockbuster in years, as I've never encountered somebody who wasn't a jackass at the counter. I also would probably loose every netflix disk sent to me, and on top of that I hate installing propietary software on my computer for things such as cinema now.

So right, I guess i'm the .003 percent of the market they are looking for.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver™

We just hope Microsoft would have a larger drive waiting in the wings if this one turns up roses though, our 20GB is already packed to the gills with game demos.
I saw this thing you can buy ($50) the other day at Game Stop... where can connect you 360 (w/HD) to your PC and just save everything there (PC's HD)
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I'm not sure I understand your question... but an HDMI port is needed for an HDMI cable. With no HDMI port on the 360 it's impossible to use an HDMI cable b/c there is no where on the 360 to plug it in.
I think what he is trying to ask is why you can't just use teh existing A/V port on teh 360 and just have the other end of the cable have an HMDI plug.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
I think what he is trying to ask is why you can't just use teh existing A/V port on teh 360 and just have the other end of the cable have an HMDI plug.
Yeah thats what I meant. But now I relaize both units need a HDMI slot. My bad. Anyways the hd-dvd movie online purchase would kick ass. I think its a great idea however with only a 20gb harddrive it would be really hard.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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right, actually buying the movie would be ridiculous with 20gb, unless they let you back it up to a computer (without some 3rd party usb cord thingy)

I thought that the real issue with hdmi and DVI was that the xbox doesn't have the proper chip for hdcp anyway. The majority of the speculation I have seen about it regards a un marked chip near the gpu. I think it's just pipe dreams.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver™



There are wild rumors, and there are interesting rumors, but here's a doozy for ya: Xbox Live could soon start vending HD movie content, according to one freshly minted Wordpress blog (take that for what it's worth). According to Shsibae (huh?), over 1000+ hours of video will make its way onto Live for rental at about $4 a go, or for purchase (at an unstated price). Hard to imagine Xbox 360 doing for PC-free online movie downloads what all the other companies couldn't or haven't (we're looking at you TiVo, Netflix, iTV, etc.), but then again Microsoft did start up with that Xbox Live music video download thing last year. Seriously though, what a coup would that be if Microsoft swooped in to make the Xbox 360 the premier digital content hub -- with or without HD DVD -- right underneath Sony's nose at the eve of their PlayStation 3 launch? We just hope Microsoft would have a larger drive waiting in the wings if this one turns up roses though, our 20GB is already packed to the gills with game demos.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/02/x...vie-downloads/
its very good they have this option brewing, given what we currently know about HD-DVD:

http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archi...gence-day.aspx

apparently the HD-DVD player software pushes the 360 harder than any game on the system, and all six "hardware threads" of the triple core CPU.. you thought your 360 was loud now? wait til you hear the fans come on when you are playing a HD-DVD...
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Microsoft has announced agreements with CBS, MTV Networks, Paramount Pictures, Turner, and Warner Bros to bring over 1,000 hours of downloadable TV shows and movies to Xbox 360 gamers in the U.S. by the end of the year.

Beginning Nov. 22nd, on its first anniversary, Xbox 360 will be "the first gaming console in history to provide high-definition TV shows and movies directly to gamers in their living rooms", according to the company.

The initial lineup of TV shows will be available for 'download to own' (and are attached to your Xbox 360 profile), and feature films will be available for 'download to rent' (after you download it, you have 14 days to watch it and 24 hours after starting it to complete it.) Pricing is currently unconfirmed.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=11587
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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oh wow.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/06/m...loads-for-you/
"# Your "purchased" TV programs can be downloaded an infinite amount of times to an infinite amount of consoles; you may also play them back on friends' 360s with your removable drive.
# Deleted TV shows can be re-downloaded later; HDTV shows can be re-downloaded in either HDTV or SD."

Thats a interesting um ... solution? To the 20 gb problem. For me it would still be quite a pain though. 5 gb on my 200kb a second connection takes a bit of time. Now if I had fiber, damn you Verison.


I also wonder if the sdtv stuff will be atleast in a 16:9 format. I could do that all day long, as when I'm 10 or so feet back from my small 27 inch tv 720 p's don't make a big difference to me.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
I think what he is trying to ask is why you can't just use teh existing A/V port on teh 360 and just have the other end of the cable have an HMDI plug.
can someone explain to me why this solution wouldnt' work?
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
can someone explain to me why this solution wouldnt' work?


It would seem to me that it'd be possible have the proprietary 360 connector on one and an HDMI connector on the other, just like they do with other connectors.

Although, if it were possible, I imagine they would have done it by now.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by soopa


It would seem to me that it'd be possible have the proprietary 360 connector on one and an HDMI connector on the other, just like they do with other connectors.

Although, if it were possible, I imagine they would have done it by now.
well it already has the component output, so I can't imagine them even thinking abotu making one until there is a significant demand for it.

If you can do 1080p over the component then why even botehr with HDMI?
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:46 AM
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You can't do 1080p over component because almost no TV's accept 1080p over component.

Luckily, it has a VGA cable and supports 1080p output over VGA. Likewise, most newer TV's have VGA inputs and will accept 1080p.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by soopa
You can't do 1080p over component because almost no TV's accept 1080p over component.

Luckily, it has a VGA cable and supports 1080p output over VGA. Likewise, most newer TV's have VGA inputs and will accept 1080p.
ahhh, cool. Didn't know that about 1080p.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Microsoft has announced agreements with CBS, MTV Networks, Paramount Pictures, Turner, and Warner Bros to bring over 1,000 hours of downloadable TV shows and movies to Xbox 360 gamers in the U.S. by the end of the year.

Beginning Nov. 22nd, on its first anniversary, Xbox 360 will be "the first gaming console in history to provide high-definition TV shows and movies directly to gamers in their living rooms", according to the company.

The initial lineup of TV shows will be available for 'download to own' (and are attached to your Xbox 360 profile), and feature films will be available for 'download to rent' (after you download it, you have 14 days to watch it and 24 hours after starting it to complete it.) Pricing is currently unconfirmed.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=11587
Sony's response...

PLAYSTATION 3's content is designed for everyone to enjoy right out of the box, no matter which configuration you purchase. We would never segregate or shut out any of our consumers from our entertainment experience because they didn't buy the top of the line system. Both PLAYSTATION 3 versions available on November 17 include hard drives for downloading content.
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/sony/so...lio-212883.php



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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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I still don't see how this will be successful with such a small hard drive on the 360. That said, I'm sure I'll give it a try anyway
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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I still don't see how this will be successful with such a small hard drive on the 360. That said, I'm sure I'll give it a try anyway

MS will probably sell a larger HDD as a peripheral.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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^ I was thinking the same thing. Not something I would buy, but we'll see. I may get hooked on downloading shows and movies
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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HD-DVD drive is $199 at Circuit City and here is a $40 coupon:

http://www.badongo.com/file/1668694

(courtesy of Fat Wallet)
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^has anyone picked up the hd-dvd drive yet?

its getting good reviews over at AVSforum.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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HD-DVD drive is $199 at Circuit City and here is a $40 coupon:

http://www.badongo.com/file/1668694

(courtesy of Fat Wallet)
hmmmmm I plugged in a couple of zip codes in C.C.'s site... and no stores near me has it in stock yet...
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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hmmmmm I plugged in a couple of zip codes in C.C.'s site... and no stores near me has it in stock yet...

Try the Orange store.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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Try the Orange store.


I'm gonna try and pick it up tomorrow on my way home... I'm at my parents' house for the weekend (Walnut/West Covina), hopefully I can get there before they close
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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picked it up this morning but had to go to a store in Montebello, Orange was out when I checked w/C.C.'s site... Montebello is actually closer to my parents' house...

BUT just so you guys know... the coupon didn't work-wouldn't scan... and the manager wouldn't let me use it

I'll let you guys know how it is when I get home and hook it up... but just to warn you guys ahead of time... I suck at writing reviews...
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Please keep us posted, I'm thinking about picking up the HD DVD Drive.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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Please keep us posted, I'm thinking about picking up the HD DVD Drive.

picture's awesome... (like I said... I'm NOT good with writing reviews), IMHO the picture's as sharp as the HD channels (cable)... I think someone mentioned before about the fan being loud or something?... NOT loud at all... but then again... I was playing the movie kinda loud... I know for sure the fan in the 360 wasn't even spinning

The picture's a lot better than my Samsung upconverting DVD player... A LOT BETTER

The player comes with King Kong... I'm going to rent the regular version and compare it (maybe tomorrow?). I'll pause the movie on the exact spot on both players and maybe take pictures (?). If I can tell noticeably differences on the pictures, I'll post.

the setup was really easy... it took maybe 5 minutes...

just in case any of you DO get this... and NOT read the instructions first... it clearly tells you NEVER to move the HD DVD player when it's got a DVD in it... does NOT matter if it's on or off...

I hope that helps...
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Hacking XBox 360 HD-DVD To Play On XP

Don't know if this is posted:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.../11/13/1756229



Hacking XBox 360 HD-DVD To Play On XP

"The XBox 360's affordable HD-DVD, with the help of some custom drivers and a specific player, has been hacked to work with any Windows XP machine. This may have created the cheapest HD-DVD player on the market to date."

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/11/8303/
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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^^ hmmmmm.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Good 360 deal:

$100 mail in rebate when you buy from a micro center, in person. Applies to the core and premium

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/10...-micro-center/
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