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Old 05-23-2020, 11:24 AM
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:35 PM
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Love the looks, but that interior is quintessentially '90s ... in a bad way ....

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a "lifestyle" wagon ....


Old 05-23-2020, 08:39 PM
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^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:46 PM
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^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
I think his self-designated niche is more of a cultural critic than an automotive journalist. He usually doesn’t review new cars.
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Old 05-24-2020, 01:04 AM
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
Originally Posted by nanxun
I think his self-designated niche is more of a cultural critic than an automotive journalist. He usually doesn’t review new cars.
Yeah, there are reviewers I will watch review anything, including a PT Cruiser (savagegeese). RegularCars is more for the entertainment factor. His one-liner jabs at a what a car's projected demographic is tend to be pretty funny. Even if they're contrived, they somehow make sense.

Not for everyone, and not to be taken that seriously a la Clarkson, DeMuro, et al.

I had a previous gen Insignia wagon rental, and while it had the bones of decent car, it was about as bland as ever. Maybe I hyped myself up too much, because the only Insignia I knew of was the OPC.

Going on a tangent like I usually do, but he has a really good point about GM sabotaging their "niche" models, especially the foreign ones. Felt that it was criminal that the GTO, G8, and Chevy SS were killed off with a whimper. Our market is more to blame I think, because almost nobody buys a manual, RWD V8 sports sedan in the US. On paper, that just sounds awesome. I would have loved one, just couldn't afford it back then.
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Old 05-24-2020, 02:16 PM
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A much better version of the Buick. The Opel Insignia Grand Tourer GSi.






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Yeah the TourX was such a let down. And $40K to get leather?
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:40 PM
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:24 PM
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Why would you do this to any car, let alone a Toyota that can not go fast. Oh, and I thought I had seen it all when it came to . The rear "spoiler" is, um, exotic?





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Old 05-27-2020, 08:05 PM
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I really like the 940 Volvo wagon...hopefully I'll find a nicely done up one to post.
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Yeah, I love the front of that wagon. Really nicely done for me.
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MMMMMM take my monies....

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Could be had for only ~US$26k-27k .... but still 6 hours left on the auction, so....

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Originally Posted by nanxun
Could be had for only ~US$26k-27k .... but still 6 hours left on the auction, so...
Neeeeeeed
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bid's up to US$27k with 4 hours left ....
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A bit too low for me, or the airmatic has settled & it'll rise a bit once started?
Always thought the W211 was an attractive car.
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Yeah, I noticed the low ride height, too, and presume it had something to do with the airmatic system ... perhaps lowered for the photos?


Here's the last photo posted for the auction ad, which looks like a slightly higher (or "normal") ride height:





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Yeah, probably sat long enough for the system to lower.
I'd want the slightly earlier S/C 5.5 V8
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Man, that era of Benz wagon is more beautiful than I've ever given them credit for.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Yeah, probably sat long enough for the system to lower.
I'd want the slightly earlier S/C 5.5 V8
Dude I went to school with bought one an E55 sometime during college.

It certainly wasn't stock and yet he got it up to over 150k. Pretty impressive.
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Umm, This is a pick up truck. Wrong thread for this?
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Not sure how truck is = avant/wagon...
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Nice pic...

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I'll see that and raise you one.




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That's a hatchback
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That's a hatchback
You better be scared...... I mean, all wagons are a hatchback. The 3 series from Audi, well, it's close. Kind of a mini-wagon. Sure as fuck isn't a pick up truck.
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You better be scared...... I mean, all wagons are a hatchback. The 3 series from Audi, well, it's close. Kind of a mini-wagon. Sure as fuck isn't a pick up truck.
I’ve always thought a five-door is a wagon. A three door is a hatch. But the fact that there’s no single agreed upon definition makes it impossible.
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It is impossible.I rely on visual cues more than anything. Bigger rear overhang and quarter windows, more upright hatch, etc.
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Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
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Originally Posted by Costco
Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
Shit right ... Five doors with a flat roof. And then I’ll forget something else.
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Originally Posted by Aman
It is impossible.I rely on visual cues more than anything. Bigger rear overhang and quarter windows, more upright hatch, etc.
Yeah, so like your Ford Focus hatch. Is it a wagon? The A3/S3/RS3 are a bit more squared off where it could be a wagon or called a hatch. Maybe a mini-wagon. Definitely a 5 door. But I would not call a 4 door VW Golf a wagon. If it's a GTI, well then
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Originally Posted by Costco
Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
Why you gotta drag me into everything, C? Can't you just let me plow into curbs in peace?!?


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