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Old May 23, 2020 | 11:24 AM
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Old May 23, 2020 | 01:35 PM
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Love the looks, but that interior is quintessentially '90s ... in a bad way ....

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Old May 23, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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a "lifestyle" wagon ....


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Old May 23, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
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Old May 23, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
I think his self-designated niche is more of a cultural critic than an automotive journalist. He usually doesn’t review new cars.
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Old May 24, 2020 | 01:04 AM
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Old May 24, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
^ Understand he did not like the car, but really it was opinion, as opposed to performance indications. Rather listen to other people review cars :two cents:
Originally Posted by nanxun
I think his self-designated niche is more of a cultural critic than an automotive journalist. He usually doesn’t review new cars.
Yeah, there are reviewers I will watch review anything, including a PT Cruiser (savagegeese). RegularCars is more for the entertainment factor. His one-liner jabs at a what a car's projected demographic is tend to be pretty funny. Even if they're contrived, they somehow make sense.

Not for everyone, and not to be taken that seriously a la Clarkson, DeMuro, et al.

I had a previous gen Insignia wagon rental, and while it had the bones of decent car, it was about as bland as ever. Maybe I hyped myself up too much, because the only Insignia I knew of was the OPC.

Going on a tangent like I usually do, but he has a really good point about GM sabotaging their "niche" models, especially the foreign ones. Felt that it was criminal that the GTO, G8, and Chevy SS were killed off with a whimper. Our market is more to blame I think, because almost nobody buys a manual, RWD V8 sports sedan in the US. On paper, that just sounds awesome. I would have loved one, just couldn't afford it back then.
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Old May 24, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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A much better version of the Buick. The Opel Insignia Grand Tourer GSi.






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Old May 24, 2020 | 09:52 PM
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Yeah the TourX was such a let down. And $40K to get leather?
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Old May 25, 2020 | 05:40 PM
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Old May 25, 2020 | 05:53 PM
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Old May 27, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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Why would you do this to any car, let alone a Toyota that can not go fast. Oh, and I thought I had seen it all when it came to . The rear "spoiler" is, um, exotic?





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Old May 27, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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Old May 27, 2020 | 08:05 PM
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I really like the 940 Volvo wagon...hopefully I'll find a nicely done up one to post.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 08:50 PM
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Old May 27, 2020 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako


Yeah, I love the front of that wagon. Really nicely done for me.
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Old May 28, 2020 | 11:50 AM
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MMMMMM take my monies....

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Old May 28, 2020 | 01:55 PM
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Old May 29, 2020 | 08:03 AM
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Could be had for only ~US$26k-27k .... but still 6 hours left on the auction, so....

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Old May 29, 2020 | 09:04 AM
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Old May 29, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nanxun
Could be had for only ~US$26k-27k .... but still 6 hours left on the auction, so...
Neeeeeeed
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Old May 29, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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bid's up to US$27k with 4 hours left ....
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Old May 29, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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A bit too low for me, or the airmatic has settled & it'll rise a bit once started?
Always thought the W211 was an attractive car.
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Old May 29, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Yeah, I noticed the low ride height, too, and presume it had something to do with the airmatic system ... perhaps lowered for the photos?


Here's the last photo posted for the auction ad, which looks like a slightly higher (or "normal") ride height:





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Old May 29, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Yeah, probably sat long enough for the system to lower.
I'd want the slightly earlier S/C 5.5 V8
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Old May 29, 2020 | 12:45 PM
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Man, that era of Benz wagon is more beautiful than I've ever given them credit for.
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Old May 29, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Yeah, probably sat long enough for the system to lower.
I'd want the slightly earlier S/C 5.5 V8
Dude I went to school with bought one an E55 sometime during college.

It certainly wasn't stock and yet he got it up to over 150k. Pretty impressive.
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Old May 29, 2020 | 06:19 PM
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Umm, This is a pick up truck. Wrong thread for this?
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Old May 29, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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Old May 29, 2020 | 08:10 PM
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Not sure how truck is = avant/wagon...
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Old May 29, 2020 | 08:15 PM
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Nice pic...

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Old May 29, 2020 | 08:46 PM
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I'll see that and raise you one.




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Old May 29, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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That's a hatchback
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Old May 30, 2020 | 11:04 AM
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That's a hatchback
You better be scared...... I mean, all wagons are a hatchback. The 3 series from Audi, well, it's close. Kind of a mini-wagon. Sure as fuck isn't a pick up truck.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmako
You better be scared...... I mean, all wagons are a hatchback. The 3 series from Audi, well, it's close. Kind of a mini-wagon. Sure as fuck isn't a pick up truck.
I’ve always thought a five-door is a wagon. A three door is a hatch. But the fact that there’s no single agreed upon definition makes it impossible.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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It is impossible.I rely on visual cues more than anything. Bigger rear overhang and quarter windows, more upright hatch, etc.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 01:58 PM
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Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
Shit right ... Five doors with a flat roof. And then I’ll forget something else.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
It is impossible.I rely on visual cues more than anything. Bigger rear overhang and quarter windows, more upright hatch, etc.
Yeah, so like your Ford Focus hatch. Is it a wagon? The A3/S3/RS3 are a bit more squared off where it could be a wagon or called a hatch. Maybe a mini-wagon. Definitely a 5 door. But I would not call a 4 door VW Golf a wagon. If it's a GTI, well then
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Old May 30, 2020 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Like how a square is also a rectangle.

@Yumcha's 5-door Hyundai is also a hatchback.
Why you gotta drag me into everything, C? Can't you just let me plow into curbs in peace?!?


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