The Official Wagon/Avant Discussion Thread
#4401
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#4402
Senior Moderator
#4403
Moderator
Just a bit too low for me, the silver/gray one above > the white just above.
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#4404
Senior Moderator
#4405
Senior Moderator
Whoa momma...
Alpina reveals the D5S...
Alpina reveals the D5S...
#4406
Senior Moderator
More pics and info here: https://www.motor1.com/news/428048/2...pina-5-series/
#4407
Team Owner
I am so sick of tired of seeing those Alpina wheels... classic? yes... boring? yes x10
But that looks like the ultimate sleeper
But that looks like the ultimate sleeper
#4408
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
But I will say my favorites are by HRE. They make the best wheels I can never afford. Someday.
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#4410
Team Owner
Alpina literally put that shit on everything like a hot sauce...
It doesn't matter if the car is a sedan, coupe, suv.. 3 series, or 7 series.
HRE has about 20 or 30 different designs... Alpina has like what 2?
actually no.. just 1 design across their current lineup...
It doesn't matter if the car is a sedan, coupe, suv.. 3 series, or 7 series.
HRE has about 20 or 30 different designs... Alpina has like what 2?
actually no.. just 1 design across their current lineup...
Funny, but I think the opposite. I love those wheels, but it has to be the whole Alpina package. It can't be some rip off, BS wheels on some other type of car or BMW for that matter. But that's just me.
But I will say my favorites are by HRE. They make the best wheels I can never afford. Someday.
But I will say my favorites are by HRE. They make the best wheels I can never afford. Someday.
#4411
Team Owner
#4412
Senior Moderator
That being said, get what you like -- but, if I were to stay in BMW-land, I'd say a preowned 6er GC for the same price?
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#4413
Senior Moderator
#4414
Funny, but I think the opposite. I love those wheels, but it has to be the whole Alpina package. It can't be some rip off, BS wheels on some other type of car or BMW for that matter. But that's just me.
But I will say my favorites are by HRE. They make the best wheels I can never afford. Someday.
But I will say my favorites are by HRE. They make the best wheels I can never afford. Someday.
I have seen those on other cars before, and they instantly caught my eye.
#4415
Team Owner
FWIW, I would hope you have SOME standards, man. I know it's a BMW but c'mon...that's clear mockery of what constitutes a nice vehicle and even with $15K off, you're driving some supreme ugliness with performance, IMO, you an replicate in a nicer looking vehicle.
That being said, get what you like -- but, if I were to stay in BMW-land, I'd say a preowned 6er GC for the same price?
That being said, get what you like -- but, if I were to stay in BMW-land, I'd say a preowned 6er GC for the same price?
We will see.. i still have some time..
6GC has a regular trunk with tiny opening... only 4GC is a full hatch, 2GC, 6GC and 8GC all have regular trunks..
#4416
Race Director
Not a bad option for an affordable and usable DD ... would drive this over a SUV or CUV any day, every day ....
Bid stands at US$20k with 2 hrs left on auction ....
Bid stands at US$20k with 2 hrs left on auction ....
No Reserve: 2013 Mercedes-Benz E350 4MATIC Wagon
#4417
Moderator
$20k isn't bad, but a bit more than I'd go for a 2013.
Does look nicely optioned, though.
Does look nicely optioned, though.
#4418
Senior Moderator
You turn on the sports mode in the S or RS and honestly, I don't think you'll care it's AWD.
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#4419
Ex-OEM King
You can buy Doug DeMuro's E63 wagon right now on his new bidding site. I think it was at like $32k last time I checked. The spec of that one above is awesome though, great combo. It's no red but it's pretty good.
Also, the 6GC has a normal trunk? I thought it was hatch?
Might as well go Kia Stinger for 75% off the MSRP and call it good. Or a Panamera.
Also, the 6GC has a normal trunk? I thought it was hatch?
Might as well go Kia Stinger for 75% off the MSRP and call it good. Or a Panamera.
#4420
Race Director
E350 longroof just sold for $23.5k.
#4421
Team Owner
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#4422
Team Owner
You can buy Doug DeMuro's E63 wagon right now on his new bidding site. I think it was at like $32k last time I checked. The spec of that one above is awesome though, great combo. It's no red but it's pretty good.
Also, the 6GC has a normal trunk? I thought it was hatch?
Might as well go Kia Stinger for 75% off the MSRP and call it good. Or a Panamera.
Also, the 6GC has a normal trunk? I thought it was hatch?
Might as well go Kia Stinger for 75% off the MSRP and call it good. Or a Panamera.
#4423
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#4424
Team Owner
I can't change gf/wife every 3 years, the least i can do is change cars every 2-3 years
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
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#4425
Senior Moderator
I can't change gf/wife every 3 years, the least i can do is change cars every 2-3 years
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
#4427
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
#4428
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
I can't change gf/wife every 3 years, the least i can do is change cars every 2-3 years
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
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#4429
Turd Polisher
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Looked exactly like this
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#4430
Ex-OEM King
That's stupid.
Why is that and how do they still manage to be competitive? I'd imagine a huge portion of their sales are still leases just like BMW and Benz. Is it that they compensate with lower selling price?
I can't change gf/wife every 3 years, the least i can do is change cars every 2-3 years
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
Just to give you an example how shitty Audi's leasing program is compare to BMW's.
a $83k RS5 sportback is around $1200-$1350 a month with $3k drive off in 2020
a $83k M4 is about $900 or less with the same $3k drive off in 2020
The same structure applies to 3 series/A4S4 and 4 series/A5S5
#4431
Whats up with RDX owners?
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That's my thought. MSRP on the RS5s range from $75-98k depending on options, but I see them advertised anywhere from $3-10k off. It's actually pretty hilarious that new RS5 SBs are advertised for $71k (with an msrp of $81k) when similarly spec'd used RS5 SBs are listed for the same with 10k miles.
I think Audi, like BMW, make most of their money off lease specials, so A4s, 328s, etc. The M3/4 probably just has a higher residual. But I'm sure if you worked on it, you can get an RS5 lease for around the same.
I think Audi, like BMW, make most of their money off lease specials, so A4s, 328s, etc. The M3/4 probably just has a higher residual. But I'm sure if you worked on it, you can get an RS5 lease for around the same.
#4432
Team Owner
I have been asking that question for years... i even asked the Finance Manager when i worked for Audi...
They all wish Audi could do better on their leasing program.. that means deals and more sales.. for everyone..
But nope..
They all wish Audi could do better on their leasing program.. that means deals and more sales.. for everyone..
But nope..
#4433
Team Owner
I dont know why.. it is not like it is helping their resale value or anything.. they all suck when it comes to that.... I know BMW has very low Money factor (Interest) and high RV, which makes their lease significantly more attractive than Audi..
Audi's sales # could be very close to BMW's if they chose to...
#4435
Ex-OEM King
That's my thought. MSRP on the RS5s range from $75-98k depending on options, but I see them advertised anywhere from $3-10k off. It's actually pretty hilarious that new RS5 SBs are advertised for $71k (with an msrp of $81k) when similarly spec'd used RS5 SBs are listed for the same with 10k miles.
I think Audi, like BMW, make most of their money off lease specials, so A4s, 328s, etc. The M3/4 probably just has a higher residual. But I'm sure if you worked on it, you can get an RS5 lease for around the same.
I think Audi, like BMW, make most of their money off lease specials, so A4s, 328s, etc. The M3/4 probably just has a higher residual. But I'm sure if you worked on it, you can get an RS5 lease for around the same.
Residual is the biggest component of a lease though and it can't be negotiated. If they are going to bone you on the residual for a $80k car, your payment is going to be through the roof without substantial rebates or incentives applied.
#4436
Team Owner
#4437
Ex-OEM King
#4438
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
Um, am I talking about cars or... Ah never mind.
#4439
So like anything else in this world, the newness of the shiny object is great. After you ride it for a while the luster is gone. Oh, and the warranty has expired. That means high maintenance costs, unless being stranded on the side of the road (see above) is appealing. So better to lease than settle down for the long haul .
Um, am I talking about cars or... Ah never mind.
Um, am I talking about cars or... Ah never mind.
On the other hand, with every exciting session, you feel a better connection, and less hesitant. Your bodies feel more connected. I have gone through the cycle of trying something new every few years, but as I get older the nagging feeling of sticking with something that's less of a headache long term would be great. You also realize its the little things that matter.
We're just talking about cars, man.
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#4440
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