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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:11 PM
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360 was the first of the "reliable" (lol) Ferraris that didn't need an engine out service every time you sneezed in its direction. F430 went to timing chain so no engine out service ever unless something really goes tits up. F430 is the one to get IMO. Also, it looks better.
I don't have that kind of cash fool.. I have kids..
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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Only import likely in my life is a Stage III Golf R

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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OMG Yasss... LEERRRROOYYYYYYY JEEENNKKKKINNNNNNNNSSSS!!!
Where's Fatty, he should be leading the charge.. the interior looks tits too.

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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18 years old with 45k miles.. probably need a new engine soon
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
$4500 is peanuts for a 15 year warranty on any car let alone a Ferrari. Shit, I paid $2100 for a lifetime warranty on the Jeep. Though it doesn't seem to be actually that though. After the three years, you have to buy two more before dropping the $4500 on the remaining 10 years?

brb, seeing how much Ferrari's less than a decade old go for these days...

Edit: Can get a 2006-2009 F430 (base, not any special editions) for ~$110k with low miles...
Not sure how the extra two years works, but it all seems worth the money for what it covers, esp. when newer Ferraris (or sports cars in general) are getting harder & harder to touch. As Jay Leno critiques, you can't even open the hood on 7-figure cars anymore.

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
18 years old with 45k miles.. probably need a new engine soon
5000 extendo son!!!!
or donor Maserati for 20k
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I am ok with any Ferrari... really.... except i can't afford to keep it on the road no matter how cheap you are telling me.. People are scared of the repair cost for an average German car, let alone an Italian Exotic...
$4500 warranty brosef. Don't have to afford any of the repairs! Return that peasant BMW and get a real car.

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I always liked the 360 > 430 aesthetically.
Had a neighbor at my prior house that had a 348 & 355 in his garage. Never asked him about maintenance beyond the fact that he has a good 3rd party shop that specializes in Ferrari.
Key words. If you don't drive them, they can never break.

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I don't have that kind of cash fool.. I have kids..
I have a dog.

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Only import likely in my life is a Stage III Golf R

Sam..
I have a stage 0 Golf R. Only 4k miles on it so far, want to get it at least a year in before tuning.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
$4500 warranty brosef. Don't have to afford any of the repairs! Return that peasant BMW and get a real car.

That just does not make sense to me.. when it is too good to be true, it usually is.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
That just does not make sense to me.. when it is too good to be true, it usually is.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:44 PM
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Not hatting...i mean if there is no fine prints somewhere, i would call it a game changer. But i just dont understand how that is possible given the cost of repairs and the frequency of those repairs.
We are talking about $300k+ hand built exotic here... not a 20k 4 banger Camry.

I even think $20k for the extended warranty would be a steal, let alone $4k or $5k.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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There's more issues than just buying the parts, or maintenance, or warranty, or whatever... the bigger issue is the availability of said parts. Ferrari sure as hell wasnt concerned about people buying 20 year old models and ensuring there was a steady amount of replacement parts for them. I'm not sure what you do then- custom parts? Repair failed oem parts?
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:51 PM
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Those third party warranties need to be thoroughly reviewed. They're in the business of making money, not hoping every car under their belt is in perfect shape. I have no personal experience with third party warranties, but I have heard some rather WTF stories, here and there. I'm with oonowindoo on this one... at least on the surface, it sounds too good to be true.

and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 05:54 PM
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Fittingly called the New Power15 extended service coverage, it lengthens the existing, 12-year warranty by offering the ability to buy a 12-month extension each year for three years. The extended coverage costs $4500 for cars with eight-cylinder engines and $5760 for those with V-12s.
So it is $4500 PER YEAR??

It is in addition to Ferrari’s standard, three-year factory warranty, and its seven-year free maintenance program. The three-year bumper-to-bumper coverage also can be extended by two years.

After that, Ferrari owners have the choice to buy the New Power coverage.
That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/

So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Those third party warranties need to be thoroughly reviewed. They're in the business of making money, not hoping every car under their belt is in perfect shape. I have no personal experience with third party warranties, but I have heard some rather WTF stories, here and there. I'm with oonowindoo on this one... at least on the surface, it sounds too good to be true.

and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
i think it is offered by Ferrari directly, which makes even less sense. if all it costs is $4500.
The services they provided are NEVER free, it is either you pay for it or the manufacture pay for it... someone is paying for it to the dealership.
There is no way Ferrari is willing to lose so much $$...

Also i am very curious what their 7 years free maint. program includes. Just because it is called free maint. does not mean it covers everything.
For example, BMW used to cover all major maint. items like brake pads and stuff but starting in 2016, their free maint. program only covers oil changes, which shit... once every 10k miles.
You want brake pads and rotors changed? that is $1000 extra.

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:09 PM
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Yup...


The scheduled routine maintenance plan offered for the first 7 years of life of all Ferrari cars is called Genuine Maintenance. This exclusive service covers an extensive period, serving as proof of the excellent quality of Prancing Horse cars.

With Genuine Maintenance, all Ferrari owners can feel safe in the knowledge that their precious vehicle is being kept in perfect working order, maintaining the highest levels of efficiency, performance and safety as the years pass. It is the only maintenance package of its kind to be offered by a global manufacturer, and a reflection of Ferrari’s unwavering dedication to its customers.

The Genuine Maintenance service is specifically linked to each car: indeed, this service “passes on” to the new owner if the car in question is sold. The programme includes: labour, original replacement parts, lubricants, engine oil, brake fluid.

The checks are scheduled to take place once a year, and are performed by highly-qualified dealer staff who have been trained at the Ferrari Training Centre in Maranello: nobody knows the unique characteristics of the various Prancing Horse models better than them.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:13 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:14 PM
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I'd likely just get a Maserati Quattttttropotttteeee
butt it's so ugly

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:20 PM
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really? i actually like the old ones a lot...and the exhaust noise is one of the best including exotics.

I think the newer ones are not the same anymore...
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:36 PM
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Yeah, as I said the older one has the same engine as the F360
But it's ugly as sin..
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:42 PM
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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It's not bad, per say... the front end definitely isn't aging well, though.

I've always kind of like these.

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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You got a bad picture. This one isnt too bad. Definitely better than RLX. at $25k with 50k miles, it is definitely one of those cars that will make you "look" rich.


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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:02 PM
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10/10 agreed.

the quattroporte is fairly cheap on the used market now, isn't it? Shiiiiet... Maj is buying a ferrari engine soon

edit: holy fuck, I just saw the price of the one Maj posted... that's cheap!!

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:04 PM
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I still remember Jeremy Clarkson's review on that car... The car was pretty bad but he loved it
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I still remember Jeremy Clarkson's review on that car... The car was pretty bad but he loved it
That was an awesome episode, with the Panamera that everyone hated to look at
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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Oh shizz.. I had it wrong, not the 360 engine, the 430.. and later 458.. balls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F136_engine
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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alright, let's do this!!!
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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If something goes wrong, just buy another one
I saw used engines for like $2k
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:13 PM
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Or W220 straight-piped S600

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:25 PM
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My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.

Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.

I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead

I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I think first gen NSX is more of a possible exotic for us...
Indeed.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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Ghibli
Hell no cuh, never
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:51 PM
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Is the NSX really an exotic though?
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:08 PM
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Maybe it was not when it was still in production but with the way it appreciates in value, i would say so.... Its also got the looks, mid engine. The only thing i can think of is it is reliable.... so i guess you can say exotics should not be reliable
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.

Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.

I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead

I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
They are.... dont confuse Ghiblis with Quatroporteeeee
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:17 PM
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Indeed.
Not with the way prices are going. 120+k USD for a mint, desirable colored NA2
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:52 PM
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Not with the way prices are going. 120+k USD for a mint, desirable colored NA2
and with the way they make cars, the price will continue to go up....

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
So it is $4500 PER YEAR??



That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/

So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
That's still quite a drop in the bucket for a $200,000+ car to know major parts are covered. The F140 motor alone is around $30,000 on the used market.
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Is the NSX really an exotic though?
I know of an Alex Zanardi edition for sale if that's exotic enough for ya. Chassis #02.



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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
So it is $4500 PER YEAR??



That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/

So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
Well $4500 A YEAR certainly makes it different. Welp, back to the Porsche train.

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My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.

Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.

I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead

I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Have you ever sat in a Ghibli? It's garbage. Basically a Chrysler 300 interior with an Italian engine and a Maserati badge.

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That's still quite a drop in the bucket for a $200,000+ car to know major parts are covered. The F140 motor alone is around $30,000 on the used market.

I know of an Alex Zanardi edition for sale if that's exotic enough for ya. Chassis #02.
That car is going to bring in so much money it's not even funny.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
That's still quite a drop in the bucket for a $200,000+ car to know major parts are covered. The F140 motor alone is around $30,000 on the used market.

I know of an Alex Zanardi edition for sale if that's exotic enough for ya. Chassis #02.
Not Senna's NSX, don't care
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