General Car Talk Discussion Thread
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
360 was the first of the "reliable" (lol) Ferraris that didn't need an engine out service every time you sneezed in its direction. F430 went to timing chain so no engine out service ever unless something really goes tits up. F430 is the one to get IMO. Also, it looks better.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Only import likely in my life is a Stage III Golf R
Sam..
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Team Owner
18 years old with 45k miles.. probably need a new engine soon
$4500 is peanuts for a 15 year warranty on any car let alone a Ferrari. Shit, I paid $2100 for a lifetime warranty on the Jeep. Though it doesn't seem to be actually that though. After the three years, you have to buy two more before dropping the $4500 on the remaining 10 years?
brb, seeing how much Ferrari's less than a decade old go for these days...
Edit: Can get a 2006-2009 F430 (base, not any special editions) for ~$110k with low miles...
brb, seeing how much Ferrari's less than a decade old go for these days...
Edit: Can get a 2006-2009 F430 (base, not any special editions) for ~$110k with low miles...
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Ex-OEM King
I have a dog.
I have a stage 0 Golf R. Only 4k miles on it so far, want to get it at least a year in before tuning.
Team Owner
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Team Owner
Not hatting...i mean if there is no fine prints somewhere, i would call it a game changer. But i just dont understand how that is possible given the cost of repairs and the frequency of those repairs.
We are talking about $300k+ hand built exotic here... not a 20k 4 banger Camry.
I even think $20k for the extended warranty would be a steal, let alone $4k or $5k.
We are talking about $300k+ hand built exotic here... not a 20k 4 banger Camry.
I even think $20k for the extended warranty would be a steal, let alone $4k or $5k.
Team Owner
There's more issues than just buying the parts, or maintenance, or warranty, or whatever... the bigger issue is the availability of said parts. Ferrari sure as hell wasnt concerned about people buying 20 year old models and ensuring there was a steady amount of replacement parts for them. I'm not sure what you do then- custom parts? Repair failed oem parts?
Team Owner
Those third party warranties need to be thoroughly reviewed. They're in the business of making money, not hoping every car under their belt is in perfect shape. I have no personal experience with third party warranties, but I have heard some rather WTF stories, here and there. I'm with oonowindoo on this one... at least on the surface, it sounds too good to be true.
and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
Team Owner
Fittingly called the New Power15 extended service coverage, it lengthens the existing, 12-year warranty by offering the ability to buy a 12-month extension each year for three years. The extended coverage costs $4500 for cars with eight-cylinder engines and $5760 for those with V-12s.
It is in addition to Ferrari’s standard, three-year factory warranty, and its seven-year free maintenance program. The three-year bumper-to-bumper coverage also can be extended by two years.
After that, Ferrari owners have the choice to buy the New Power coverage.
After that, Ferrari owners have the choice to buy the New Power coverage.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/
So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
Last edited by oonowindoo; 08-20-2018 at 05:59 PM.
Team Owner
Those third party warranties need to be thoroughly reviewed. They're in the business of making money, not hoping every car under their belt is in perfect shape. I have no personal experience with third party warranties, but I have heard some rather WTF stories, here and there. I'm with oonowindoo on this one... at least on the surface, it sounds too good to be true.
and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
and they don't cover any wearable items, do they? So a clutch, or DCT can be fuggin expensive to replace. Or even a simple brake job might cost a pretty penny.
The services they provided are NEVER free, it is either you pay for it or the manufacture pay for it... someone is paying for it to the dealership.
There is no way Ferrari is willing to lose so much $$...
Also i am very curious what their 7 years free maint. program includes. Just because it is called free maint. does not mean it covers everything.
For example, BMW used to cover all major maint. items like brake pads and stuff but starting in 2016, their free maint. program only covers oil changes, which shit... once every 10k miles.
You want brake pads and rotors changed? that is $1000 extra.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 08-20-2018 at 06:06 PM.
Team Owner
Yup...
The scheduled routine maintenance plan offered for the first 7 years of life of all Ferrari cars is called Genuine Maintenance. This exclusive service covers an extensive period, serving as proof of the excellent quality of Prancing Horse cars.
With Genuine Maintenance, all Ferrari owners can feel safe in the knowledge that their precious vehicle is being kept in perfect working order, maintaining the highest levels of efficiency, performance and safety as the years pass. It is the only maintenance package of its kind to be offered by a global manufacturer, and a reflection of Ferrari’s unwavering dedication to its customers.
The Genuine Maintenance service is specifically linked to each car: indeed, this service “passes on” to the new owner if the car in question is sold. The programme includes: labour, original replacement parts, lubricants, engine oil, brake fluid.
The checks are scheduled to take place once a year, and are performed by highly-qualified dealer staff who have been trained at the Ferrari Training Centre in Maranello: nobody knows the unique characteristics of the various Prancing Horse models better than them.
The scheduled routine maintenance plan offered for the first 7 years of life of all Ferrari cars is called Genuine Maintenance. This exclusive service covers an extensive period, serving as proof of the excellent quality of Prancing Horse cars.
With Genuine Maintenance, all Ferrari owners can feel safe in the knowledge that their precious vehicle is being kept in perfect working order, maintaining the highest levels of efficiency, performance and safety as the years pass. It is the only maintenance package of its kind to be offered by a global manufacturer, and a reflection of Ferrari’s unwavering dedication to its customers.
The Genuine Maintenance service is specifically linked to each car: indeed, this service “passes on” to the new owner if the car in question is sold. The programme includes: labour, original replacement parts, lubricants, engine oil, brake fluid.
The checks are scheduled to take place once a year, and are performed by highly-qualified dealer staff who have been trained at the Ferrari Training Centre in Maranello: nobody knows the unique characteristics of the various Prancing Horse models better than them.
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Per year
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I'd likely just get a Maserati Quattttttropotttteeee
butt it's so ugly
butt it's so ugly
Team Owner
really? i actually like the old ones a lot...and the exhaust noise is one of the best including exotics.
I think the newer ones are not the same anymore...
I think the newer ones are not the same anymore...
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Yeah, as I said the older one has the same engine as the F360
But it's ugly as sin..
But it's ugly as sin..
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Team Owner
It's not bad, per say... the front end definitely isn't aging well, though.
I've always kind of like these.
I've always kind of like these.
Team Owner
You got a bad picture. This one isnt too bad. Definitely better than RLX. at $25k with 50k miles, it is definitely one of those cars that will make you "look" rich.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 08-20-2018 at 07:02 PM.
Team Owner
10/10 agreed.
the quattroporte is fairly cheap on the used market now, isn't it? Shiiiiet... Maj is buying a ferrari engine soon
edit: holy fuck, I just saw the price of the one Maj posted... that's cheap!!
the quattroporte is fairly cheap on the used market now, isn't it? Shiiiiet... Maj is buying a ferrari engine soon
edit: holy fuck, I just saw the price of the one Maj posted... that's cheap!!
Last edited by TacoBello; 08-20-2018 at 07:04 PM.
Team Owner
I still remember Jeremy Clarkson's review on that car... The car was pretty bad but he loved it
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Oh shizz.. I had it wrong, not the 360 engine, the 430.. and later 458.. balls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F136_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F136_engine
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
alright, let's do this!!!
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
If something goes wrong, just buy another one
I saw used engines for like $2k
I saw used engines for like $2k
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Or W220 straight-piped S600
My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Ghibli
Hell no cuh, never
Hell no cuh, never
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Is the NSX really an exotic though?
Team Owner
Maybe it was not when it was still in production but with the way it appreciates in value, i would say so.... Its also got the looks, mid engine. The only thing i can think of is it is reliable.... so i guess you can say exotics should not be reliable
Team Owner
My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Team Owner
Team Owner
So it is $4500 PER YEAR??
That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/
So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/
So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
I know of an Alex Zanardi edition for sale if that's exotic enough for ya. Chassis #02.
Last edited by Rick_TL-S; 08-20-2018 at 10:18 PM.
Ex-OEM King
So it is $4500 PER YEAR??
That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/
So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
That adds up to a lot lot more than $4500
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...y-cost.559758/
So about $6000 per year every year for 12 years
My friend who worked at a Euro shop said Ghiblis are trash. They have a problem with the strut towers getting cracked, so that needs a revised panel welded in.
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Know what else is required? Pulling the engine.
I really don't know what it would take for me to own a Ferrari. I'm just thinking half a mil in liquid assets. I feel, or hope that I'm too pragmatic. Most likely would settle for a Porsche instead
I would be happy with a Cayman GT4, I'll look at it as a poor man's Ferrari
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)