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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Key words. If you don't drive them, they can never break.
His both get driven, but they're weekend drivers for nice weather. He's got a JGC for a daily.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 06:44 PM
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I think first gen NSX is more of a possible exotic for us...


Originally Posted by Majofo
Is the NSX really an exotic though?
To 98% of the public...yes. I've seen/heard people call a 1st gen NSX a Ferrari/Lambo/etc. etc. My wife barely can tell cars apart aside from if they are big/small and the colors... I have many friends who have 0 clue/nor do they care about cars.

Anything that's bright colored, low and sleek is either a Lambo or Corvette or Ferrari or "hey ask nist7! He'd know what kinda car that is!"

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That's still quite a drop in the bucket for a $200,000+ car to know major parts are covered. The F140 motor alone is around $30,000 on the used market.

I know of an Alex Zanardi edition for sale if that's exotic enough for ya. Chassis #02.
Honestly $4500/year is probably not that bad. Considering cars like a Ferrari you might spend 10x that in a year to repair/fix things....

What's the asking price for that Zanardi NSX?

Also, all this exotic ownership costs talk makes the E60 M5 look like a damn Honda Accord ....LOL

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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 06:50 PM
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^ yah that is why i said even if the price was $20k, i would consider it a steal... $4500 just did not make sense to me.

But i would not consider Corvette as part of the exotics tho... unless we are talking about the upcoming mid engine one.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 07:00 PM
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^ yah that is why i said even if the price was $20k, i would consider it a steal... $4500 just did not make sense to me.

But i would not consider Corvette as part of the exotics tho... unless we are talking about the upcoming mid engine one.
Eh, yeah 20k maybe.....they probably know lot of Ferraris are just garage queens and basically you have to just replace items that time out instead of wearing out from use....so routine service may be in that ballpark...obviously outliers can go both ways. I'm guessing Ferrari employs smart math wizards/actuaries to come up with a warranty premium.

But yeah for sure Corvette not exotic...was just showing how little the avg person knows/cares about cars. Basically anything that looks low and fast is 1 of those 3 lot of the time. And if it looks exotic... then it must be super fast and super expensive.





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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nist7
What's the asking price for that Zanardi NSX?

Also, all this exotic ownership costs talk makes the E60 M5 look like a damn Honda Accord ....LOL
It's available via serious inquiries, but reportedly $155K. 32,000 miles, all original, minus exhaust.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 08:43 AM
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I shudder to think what that M5 needs, if it's priced so low.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 09:06 AM
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It needs a new 25k crate engine because the vanos oil pump failed
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 09:07 AM
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But more than likely it's bait.. you either gonna be broke or have your shit pushed in, probably bof
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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It must easily have 200,000 miles on it. Double that offer and you can easily find one just a shade under 100,000 miles.

I quick Googled some BMW forums about that kind of mileage. I guess surprisingly, for every person questioning the maintenance, there was an owner telling people to run if they can’t afford even the brakes. Quite a few guys getting 160,000+ miles out of their E60s with proper service.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:10 AM
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Anything will run forever given proper service. The question is how much does proper service cost... The E60 is a money pit deeper than many exotics, cool car, do not want.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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E60 M5 is still on my list.. that V10 is undeniable.
It sucks that there are critical components that can fail without warning.
One day I hope to properly own one.. W220 S600 as well.. and a W210 E55
My garage will be a full shop by then with plenty of fuck off money.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
E60 M5 is still on my list.. that V10 is undeniable.
It sucks that there are critical components that can fail without warning.
One day I hope to properly own one.. W220 S600 as well.. and a W210 E55
My garage will be a full shop by then with plenty of fuck off money.
W220 S600 and W210 E55 (wagon FTW) are also on my bucket list. One of these days...

Going to have to be soon though, the good examples are getting few and far between.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

I shudder to think what that M5 needs, if it's priced so low.
We got someone here that knows that very well
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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Look wise, E39 M5 is my favorite but driving dynamic and engineering, hands down E60 M5..... Till this day i still think it has the closest exhaust noise to F1 cars. The other 2 are CGT and LFA.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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Eff that. How much is a rod bearing job for the V10?

If you can do that yourself properly I give you props. I don't even wanna know what BMW would charge for it.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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E39 M5 was my favorite sedan of all time until the CTS-V. Still think the E39 has a timeless look about it.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Eff that. How much is a rod bearing job for the V10?

If you can do that yourself properly I give you props. I don't even wanna know what BMW would charge for it.

You tell me
https://www.germanautosolutions.com/...change_diy.php
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
E39 M5 was my favorite sedan of all time until the CTS-V. Still think the E39 has a timeless look about it.
I would do an S85 swap into the E39 body with 6mt since SMG is shit. That would be the perfect M5.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:14 AM
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Yeah, fuck the SMG..
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
FFS mang.. nvm.
I think I can handle any Honda or GM rod bearing change.
But there are so many variables that'll totally fuck your whole week or even life with that engine.
Very good write-up.. but fuck that noise.
Just the pump spec, fuck.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:42 AM
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Is it wrong for me to say that my fave sedan of all-time is the RS6...?
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:18 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Anything will run forever given proper service. The question is how much does proper service cost... The E60 is a money pit deeper than many exotics, cool car, do not want.
That's a significant exaggeration.

Originally Posted by oonowindoo
We got someone here that knows that very well
Shut it!
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:28 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
That's a significant exaggeration.
As steep as an exotic
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Is it wrong for me to say that my fave sedan of all-time is the RS6...?
We always knew you were an Audi man. Even before you bought the S5
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
Is it wrong for me to say that my fave sedan of all-time is the RS6...?
Do you have RS6 in Canada? cuz most of us here have never seen 1 in person here , so we cant say that is our favorite if we never seen it.
As far as we are concerned, it is vaporware.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
E60 M5 is still on my list.. that V10 is undeniable.
It sucks that there are critical components that can fail without warning.
One day I hope to properly own one.. W220 S600 as well.. and a W210 E55
My garage will be a full shop by then with plenty of fuck off money.
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W220 S600 and W210 E55 (wagon FTW) are also on my bucket list. One of these days...

Going to have to be soon though, the good examples are getting few and far between.
W210 E55 or a W211 S/C E55
For an S, I definitely prefer the W221 & W126 to the W140
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Do you have RS6 in Canada? cuz most of us here have never seen 1 in person here , so we cant say that is our favorite if we never seen it.
As far as we are concerned, it is vaporware.
At my old employment, a guy had one. It was circa 2005 or 2006...it was impressive. He bought it preowned. Don't believe they are sold here in Canadark.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
We always knew you were an Audi man. Even before you bought the S5
FWIW, outside of the slapsticking in here, I never did have a loyalty to one brand outside of Aston Martin and Pagani. But, those 2 brands was not more of loyalty but of lust-preme allegiance.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 01:47 PM
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wtf...reading M5board on the E60 rod bearings....lots of dudes are DIYing that job, insane.

Couldn't really find a good post but apparently if you go to an independent shop you can get it done at around 3k for the road bearings: https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...ng-quotes.html

Another dude said a dealer rod bearing service was less than 5k, though a diff shop quoted up to 9500 for VANOS + rod bearings.

Looks like ttribe actually owned a E60 M5!!! I probably missed that thread, but honestly it's not looking too too bad.....looks like have to go for 6MT at least and avoid SMG altogether...

edit: ttribe - just saw your post...looks like you got the M5 in 2011? That thread is 46 pages long...lol, a quick and dirty TLDR of your E60 M5 ownership experience? I can realistically swing a M5 potentially in the near future, but gotta really know what I'm getting myself into of course....lol, appreaciate any wisdom

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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:05 PM
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This fool gonna buy an E60 M5.. everyone grab your popcorn
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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This fool gonna buy an E60 M5.. everyone grab your popcorn
I'll bring the butter!

just doing some research. still got 1-2 years of student loans to pay off so have to see what the market is like then. half internet shopping/dreaming for now.

I should talk to that dude selling that M5 for 8500...be like...yeah so with VANOS and rod bearing and potential SMG repair costs....that'll be like at least 10k....so yeah you should just give me like 2k and I'll take your M5 off your hands!!!
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Do you have RS6 in Canada? cuz most of us here have never seen 1 in person here , so we cant say that is our favorite if we never seen it.
As far as we are concerned, it is vaporware.
We had the RS6 sedan here in the states for a few years in the mid aughts. The newer and wagon versions never came over.

Originally Posted by nist7
I'll bring the butter!

just doing some research. still got 1-2 years of student loans to pay off so have to see what the market is like then. half internet shopping/dreaming for now.

I should talk to that dude selling that M5 for 8500...be like...yeah so with VANOS and rod bearing and potential SMG repair costs....that'll be like at least 10k....so yeah you should just give me like 2k and I'll take your M5 off your hands!!!
In a few years, you should just get the F10 M5. Faster, more reliable (relatively), but without the glorious V10 sounds.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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In a few years, you should just get the F10 M5. Faster, more reliable (relatively), but without the glorious V10 sounds.
Ah, good point......but yeah no V10 F1 noises
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:33 PM
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Ah, good point......but yeah no V10 F1 noises
E60 M5 does sound nice with a modified exhaust (straight piped)
But it doesn't come close to the W220 S600 with a modified exhaust (straight piped)
V12 > V10

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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:36 PM
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Comparo

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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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That piped W220 is amazing. I'd be averaging 4gpm in that, since it'd be redlined everywhere.
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Oh man think I've come across that S600 exhaust video long time ago....holy damn that's pure sex right there.
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