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Old 05-12-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
But, at least your German car does not have a rep for looking like Free Willy. So, zipit.
Well, according to at least one frequent poster down in "Automotive News," mine is a "chick car." Pick your poison, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Well, according to at least one frequent poster down in "Automotive News," mine is a "chick car." Pick your poison, I suppose.
Maybe if you stopped squealing like a little schoolgirl at a Justin Beaver concernt when you're giving the car some gas, he wouldn't be calling you that.











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Old 05-12-2014, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ttribe
Well, according to at least one frequent poster down in "Automotive News," mine is a "chick car." Pick your poison, I suppose.
At times, that lovely section is a blend between Car Talk and the model-specific denizens.

and FWIW Yummy, I am no SUV fan, but I always liked the FX styling.
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There are rumors of honda bringing back the s2000 circulating today!
Old 05-13-2014, 01:34 PM
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There are rumors of honda bringing back the s2000 circulating today!
Yup...check the S2000 thread in Automotive News. But, it's mostly venom and spew.
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An old family friend of ours who sold us a couple BMWs when he was still working for them referred me an E39 M5 he thought I'd like.


Of course I like it, dammit. Just a bit pricey for me to actually considering traveling to see it. I ended up looking locally & there's only 3-4, none with mileage I'd like. What's worse, trying to find a low mileage one is impossible. Low mileage for these cars looks like 60,000. Try to find one lower & you'll end up spending $50-60,000 because they're all brand new cars under 5K.

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Old 05-14-2014, 07:58 PM
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^^^^E39 M5s are lovely.
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$50,000-$60,000 for an E39?

I know they're awesome, but I've seen good examples go for $25k in the past few years, and I thought that was pricey.

On a sort of tangent from that, does anyone find that inflated prices of previously cheap, fun cars takes away from their appeal?

I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
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Originally Posted by Aman
I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
I would say that those cars are expensive because they're drawing a particular person that will pay it. Objectively, none of those cars are worth the money they're being sold for ... Like '85-'86 E30 325s for $4000. Nothing special ... Not even 325is cars ... Just 325 autos and 325e cars. It's ridiculous.

You could get an '02 Miata (albeit 140k miles) in good shape for a little more than $4000. And I would have a lot more confidence in that Miata going another 100k with minimal maintenance/modernization than an '87 Mustang GT or a '85 325e.
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My brother alerted me to the rising price of used cars. With prices rising for everything, people hang onto their cars to save money, which means less supply, more demand. I dunno about that M5, even though it's my favorite generation... that's $$$$ for a car that old. Didn't they cost about that much when new?

Cars with a niche enthusiast interest - Miata, 240sx, S2000, etc. even though not necessarily low production will rise especially because of demand.
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Originally Posted by Aman
$50,000-$60,000 for an E39?

I know they're awesome, but I've seen good examples go for $25k in the past few years, and I thought that was pricey.
The only reason there's a few examples that high is because as I said, they're literally brand new cars. Most of them have under 5,000 miles and are 1 owner cars.
EAG has 2 E39s for $60,000+; one at 6,500 miles & then this one at 4,000.

$67,990.
I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
Because everyone thinks theirs is something special. 240s were bad a decade or so ago, and they've finally died down.

I haven't seen that many E30s over priced unless of course, it's the well beloved M3.
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The E39 M5 is likely my favorite BMW, just ahead of the E30.
Can't imagine owning one, maintenance costs-wise. But would love to drive one.
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So the key to BMW ownership is to never drive it.
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I'd be concerned that issues developed from not being driven.
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i was just at Carmax.

Saw a LBP 06 s2000 (first thought it was the one that i sold) but it wasn't

with 51k miles $23999

The car lost $6000 in 8 years......

For reference, i bought my CPO 07 LBP in 2010 from Honda dealer for $22500 with 29k miles. It is going up in value now!

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LBP my favorite S2k color.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I'd be concerned that issues developed from not being driven.
If it was from anyone else, I would be as well. But, EAG is very good about providing all the information you could ever want on each vehicle, and many are repeat clients who trade back in for something else.

They've had a couple really cool E36 track cars as well, but won't let them go.
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I guess for that kind of coin, they better.
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It snowed here this morning. The ground was too warm for it to stick, though.

But it snowed.
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damnnn!!! looks nice!



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I know it's only 5 years old but the 370Z feels so dated now
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That had to have been a movie set, but i didnt see cameras lol.
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http://thesupercarkids.com/new-pagani-zonda-lm-spotted/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJD4nFO_D1U

[h=1]New Pagani Zonda LM Spotted[/h] Sebastian May 17, 2014 1

The Pagani Zonda has been out of production for quite sometime as AMG had stopped supplying their naturally aspirated 7.3 liter V12 engines. But that didn´t stop Pagani from building new Zondas for interested clients! Recent ones like the 760RS, 760LH or the 760PS have been sold not too long ago. Looking at the image above, we believe that the Zonda lineup will probably never die.


This new Zonda, which had been spotted at the factory, sports a huge rear wing and the air intakes from the Zonda Cinque. It also features an upgraded engine, and the initials “LM” on the side profile of the car. This has us wondering whether the car is based on an old Zonda LM race car that was owned by a Russian, or it could also be the initials of its new owner.
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That had to have been a movie set, but i didnt see cameras lol.
def some production cuz you can see a ton of people standing on the bridge
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It's awesome that they're still building the Zonda, even in limited numbers. I still prefer it over the Huayra.
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Same here. The Huayra never did anything for me.
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Autoblog had some nice things to say about the Ecoboost Mustang. While it would be more than the base V6, I would definitely get the 2.3 Ecoboost over the 3.7 V6. 305hp/300lb-ft.

Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
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Great thing about Zondas is they don't have to build new ones for clients to create these new models. Several Zondas have been updated over the years to have Cinque/F features. Could be the next F1 in this regard.
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sht's hot

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Is that a custom Rapide Estate?
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Is that a custom Rapide Estate?
Looks like a Bertone badge on the rear door.
Need another angle, can't tell if I like it or now. From that shot, meh.
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Other than being 25 feet long, it's beautiful.
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Looks like a Bertone badge on the rear door.
That's what it is. Fifth Gear test drove one recently.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Autoblog had some nice things to say about the Ecoboost Mustang. While it would be more than the base V6, I would definitely get the 2.3 Ecoboost over the 3.7 V6. 305hp/300lb-ft.

Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/16/2...t-ride-review/

Hmm 15 PSI, that's less than the 2.0EB we have.

Originally Posted by Autoblog
Off-the-line acceleration wasn't tire-chirpingly quick, even in the sportiest setting, but once the engine was under full boost – we noted a bit more than 15 psi on the analog dial between the center HVAC vents – it started to pull strongly, wanting to stretch its legs. (Ambient temperatures were in the mid-90s, with equally high humidity, both of which work against a turbocharged powerplant.) The short autocross course limited the driver to just second gear, with the shift from first to second arriving smoothly. Our pilot demonstrated shifting in both automatic and manual modes, which features nifty rev-matching throttle-blips, and it never felt sharp, harsh or tiringly aggressive.
I definitely agree a simple tune will bring out much more power, as we've seen in our cars.

However, maybe it's the fact that I already own a turbo-4, but if I was buying a Mustang, I would only consider the 5.0. If I had to wait longer to save up enough for the difference in price, it would be worth it.

I love the options in the lineup, but if I didn't get the Coyote I would probably regret it.


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