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and FWIW Yummy, I am no SUV fan, but I always liked the FX styling.
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An old family friend of ours who sold us a couple BMWs when he was still working for them referred me an E39 M5 he thought I'd like.
Of course I like it, dammit. Just a bit pricey for me to actually considering traveling to see it. I ended up looking locally & there's only 3-4, none with mileage I'd like.
What's worse, trying to find a low mileage one is impossible. Low mileage for these cars looks like 60,000. Try to find one lower & you'll end up spending $50-60,000 because they're all brand new cars under 5K.
Of course I like it, dammit. Just a bit pricey for me to actually considering traveling to see it. I ended up looking locally & there's only 3-4, none with mileage I'd like.
What's worse, trying to find a low mileage one is impossible. Low mileage for these cars looks like 60,000. Try to find one lower & you'll end up spending $50-60,000 because they're all brand new cars under 5K.
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$50,000-$60,000 for an E39? 
I know they're awesome, but I've seen good examples go for $25k in the past few years, and I thought that was pricey.
On a sort of tangent from that, does anyone find that inflated prices of previously cheap, fun cars takes away from their appeal?
I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
I know they're awesome, but I've seen good examples go for $25k in the past few years, and I thought that was pricey.
On a sort of tangent from that, does anyone find that inflated prices of previously cheap, fun cars takes away from their appeal?
I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
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You could get an '02 Miata (albeit 140k miles) in good shape for a little more than $4000. And I would have a lot more confidence in that Miata going another 100k with minimal maintenance/modernization than an '87 Mustang GT or a '85 325e.
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My brother alerted me to the rising price of used cars. With prices rising for everything, people hang onto their cars to save money, which means less supply, more demand. I dunno about that M5, even though it's my favorite generation... that's $$$$ for a car that old. Didn't they cost about that much when new?
Cars with a niche enthusiast interest - Miata, 240sx, S2000, etc. even though not necessarily low production will rise especially because of demand.
Cars with a niche enthusiast interest - Miata, 240sx, S2000, etc. even though not necessarily low production will rise especially because of demand.
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EAG has 2 E39s for $60,000+; one at 6,500 miles & then this one at 4,000.
$67,990.
I think cars like Fox body Mustangs, E30s, 240SXs, etc. are really fun cars. But some of the prices that owners are asking I wouldn't pay if I were a millionaire.
I haven't seen that many E30s over priced unless of course, it's the well beloved M3.
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i was just at Carmax.
Saw a LBP 06 s2000 (first thought it was the one that i sold) but it wasn't
with 51k miles $23999
The car lost $6000 in 8 years......
For reference, i bought my CPO 07 LBP in 2010 from Honda dealer for $22500 with 29k miles. It is going up in value now!
Saw a LBP 06 s2000 (first thought it was the one that i sold) but it wasn't
with 51k miles $23999
The car lost $6000 in 8 years......
For reference, i bought my CPO 07 LBP in 2010 from Honda dealer for $22500 with 29k miles. It is going up in value now!
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If it was from anyone else, I would be as well. But, EAG is very good about providing all the information you could ever want on each vehicle, and many are repeat clients who trade back in for something else. 
They've had a couple really cool E36 track cars as well, but won't let them go.
They've had a couple really cool E36 track cars as well, but won't let them go.
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http://thesupercarkids.com/new-pagani-zonda-lm-spotted/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJD4nFO_D1U
[h=1]New Pagani Zonda LM Spotted[/h] Sebastian May 17, 2014 1
The Pagani Zonda has been out of production for quite sometime as AMG had stopped supplying their naturally aspirated 7.3 liter V12 engines. But that didn´t stop Pagani from building new Zondas for interested clients! Recent ones like the 760RS, 760LH or the 760PS have been sold not too long ago. Looking at the image above, we believe that the Zonda lineup will probably never die.
This new Zonda, which had been spotted at the factory, sports a huge rear wing and the air intakes from the Zonda Cinque. It also features an upgraded engine, and the initials “LM” on the side profile of the car. This has us wondering whether the car is based on an old Zonda LM race car that was owned by a Russian, or it could also be the initials of its new owner.
[h=1]New Pagani Zonda LM Spotted[/h] Sebastian May 17, 2014 1
The Pagani Zonda has been out of production for quite sometime as AMG had stopped supplying their naturally aspirated 7.3 liter V12 engines. But that didn´t stop Pagani from building new Zondas for interested clients! Recent ones like the 760RS, 760LH or the 760PS have been sold not too long ago. Looking at the image above, we believe that the Zonda lineup will probably never die.
This new Zonda, which had been spotted at the factory, sports a huge rear wing and the air intakes from the Zonda Cinque. It also features an upgraded engine, and the initials “LM” on the side profile of the car. This has us wondering whether the car is based on an old Zonda LM race car that was owned by a Russian, or it could also be the initials of its new owner.
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Autoblog had some nice things to say about the Ecoboost Mustang. While it would be more than the base V6, I would definitely get the 2.3 Ecoboost over the 3.7 V6. 305hp/300lb-ft.
Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
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Great thing about Zondas is they don't have to build new ones for clients to create these new models. Several Zondas have been updated over the years to have Cinque/F features. Could be the next F1 in this regard.
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Autoblog had some nice things to say about the Ecoboost Mustang. While it would be more than the base V6, I would definitely get the 2.3 Ecoboost over the 3.7 V6. 305hp/300lb-ft.
Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
Obviously the GT is the top dog but I would imagine with a good tune that Ecoboost should easily hit 350hp without any changes to the hardware.
Hmm 15 PSI, that's less than the 2.0EB we have.
Originally Posted by Autoblog
Off-the-line acceleration wasn't tire-chirpingly quick, even in the sportiest setting, but once the engine was under full boost – we noted a bit more than 15 psi on the analog dial between the center HVAC vents – it started to pull strongly, wanting to stretch its legs. (Ambient temperatures were in the mid-90s, with equally high humidity, both of which work against a turbocharged powerplant.) The short autocross course limited the driver to just second gear, with the shift from first to second arriving smoothly. Our pilot demonstrated shifting in both automatic and manual modes, which features nifty rev-matching throttle-blips, and it never felt sharp, harsh or tiringly aggressive.
However, maybe it's the fact that I already own a turbo-4, but if I was buying a Mustang, I would only consider the 5.0. If I had to wait longer to save up enough for the difference in price, it would be worth it.
I love the options in the lineup, but if I didn't get the Coyote I would probably regret it.