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#8281
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8282
Senior Moderator
Article and nice photos here: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._r_comparison/
#8283
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
cool I'll post it in carvideos thread
#8284
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
#8285
Senior Moderator
#8286
Team Owner
A 328d M-Sport with the Lighting package and Harmon Kardon is $45k. That's not too bad, all things considered. It does leave me wishing some things were in there like comfort access and heated seats for the money but a two to three year old 328d for $30-32k off lease could end up being quite a bargain.
#8287
Team Owner
BMW's M235 is pitted against the Lexus IS-F in a drag race...vroom.
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
While i was in service, i talked to the sales guy about the lease price on those M235i because i really like it.
He said right now the program is very bad since the car is new. M235i are going for close to $700 a month with $3000 down on a $47k MSRP one.
even i was after that. i guess there will always be suckas.
#8288
Fahrvergnügen'd
If we've got the money and our heart set on a M235i, I don't think buying it now is being a sucker. Life is too short to not do what makes us feel good as long as we're responsible about it.
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RPhilMan1 (04-09-2014)
#8289
None the less, I wasn't referring to anyone else but a large chunk of our clientele. They're not car enthusiasts, they're folks who want a luxury car they don't really have to worry about in the long run until it's time to return it and get another. 51% of our clients last month leased.
#8290
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
BMW's M235 is pitted against the Lexus IS-F in a drag race...vroom.
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
Obviously a turbocharged vehicle is not nearly as disadvantaged as a NA vehicle at altitude. Total fucking waste of time.
Last edited by Majofo; 04-08-2014 at 05:47 PM.
#8291
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8292
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8293
Senior Moderator
#8294
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
So C&D did a write up of vehicles to wait for and the Toyota FT-1 was on the list.. 2018.
It's 3 years out, but what concerned me is it sounds like it's being marketed for a reasonable price point with a refreshed NA I4/V6. It sounds more like a Celica replacement than Supra. Sucks.. definitely not something to wait for.
It's 3 years out, but what concerned me is it sounds like it's being marketed for a reasonable price point with a refreshed NA I4/V6. It sounds more like a Celica replacement than Supra. Sucks.. definitely not something to wait for.
#8295
Team Owner
I read your post in response to Yummy wrong. Sorry.
That doesn't really change what I said. You can have the itch for a new car every 3-5 years but that doesn't mean you see cars the way this forum does.
None the less, I wasn't referring to anyone else but a large chunk of our clientele. They're not car enthusiasts, they're folks who want a luxury car they don't really have to worry about in the long run until it's time to return it and get another. 51% of our clients last month leased.
That doesn't really change what I said. You can have the itch for a new car every 3-5 years but that doesn't mean you see cars the way this forum does.
None the less, I wasn't referring to anyone else but a large chunk of our clientele. They're not car enthusiasts, they're folks who want a luxury car they don't really have to worry about in the long run until it's time to return it and get another. 51% of our clients last month leased.
if you are talking about the large chunk of your clientele, then that big chunk usually have no idea what money factor or residual value is and they most likely don't even know what torque is or where/what the cabin filter is.
the small percentage of "us" on the forum actually care about figuring out the #s and compare what works and what doesn't.
People in car talks get new cars pretty often, that is why we have the "My car needs XXX, so I xxxx" threads.
#8296
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Cabin filter.. shitt.. I've met a lot of people who couldn't tell you where the hood release is. These are smarties as well. When the E90 335i first came out, an acquaintance (PhD EE) came over to the house behind the wheel of one. I asked her about it, any noticeable turbo lag, etc.. Her response.. "it has turbos??"
#8297
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8298
Not surprising, but it wasn't a comparison.
Thanks because that is exactly what I just said before you had to "disagree".
if you are talking about the large chunk of your clientele, then that big chunk usually have no idea what money factor or residual value is and they most likely don't even know what torque is or where/what the cabin filter is.
the small percentage of "us" on the forum actually care about figuring out the #s and compare what works and what doesn't.
the small percentage of "us" on the forum actually care about figuring out the #s and compare what works and what doesn't.
They don't see cars the way we do; they're just fancy modes of transportation they have to buy every few years & have the excess money to do so.
Originally Posted by you
I can't agree with you on that.
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#8299
Since some of you treegoats don't even know the Motorsports sub-forum exists, this thread may be worthy of your time: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...9#post14957779
Chassis LM802, LM907, & LM803 I believe. Wonder where the other 3 are.
#8300
One on the right for me
That drag race video was about 4 minutes longer than necessary. Don't call it a drag race and then have most of the video show two dip shit people babble.
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#8301
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
So C&D did a write up of vehicles to wait for and the Toyota FT-1 was on the list.. 2018.
It's 3 years out, but what concerned me is it sounds like it's being marketed for a reasonable price point with a refreshed NA I4/V6. It sounds more like a Celica replacement than Supra. Sucks.. definitely not something to wait for.
It's 3 years out, but what concerned me is it sounds like it's being marketed for a reasonable price point with a refreshed NA I4/V6. It sounds more like a Celica replacement than Supra. Sucks.. definitely not something to wait for.
#8302
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8303
2024 Honda Civic Type R
BMW's M235 is pitted against the Lexus IS-F in a drag race...vroom.
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
2014 BMW M235i vs Lexus IS F Drag Race: Mighty V8 vs Inline-6 Turbo - YouTube
#8305
Senior Moderator
Maserati raced by Stirling Moss can be yours...if your name is BoostedJack or Altegris...
Gawddarn is it pretty...
Information from here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...sale-in-monaco
Gawddarn is it pretty...
Information from here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...sale-in-monaco
What would you do with 4 million-5.5 million euros (around $5.5m-$7.6m)? A fleet of Bugatti Veyrons, perhaps? Build the biggest garage you can and fill it with pretty much every one of your dream cars?
If the 1956 Maserati 450S Prototype by Fantuzzi hits its estimate at an RM Auctions sale in Monaco on May 10, one buyer will have spent that amount on that stunning race car alone. Driven by Stirling Moss and Denis Jenkinson at the 1956 Mille Miglia, the car was originally built as a six-cylinder with the chassis number 3501. Before the Mille Miglia race in Italy that year, engineers quickly installed the now-incumbent 5,657cc 90-degree V-8 engine, producing an impressive 520 horsepower. Moss crashed the car when its brakes gave out during the race--perching the car precariously against a tree over a ravine.
Since then the car has gained the chassis number 4501, once used on an entirely different Maserati 450S but now verified for this car. Since then the car has been sold on to various owners, even receiving a Corvette V-8 engine during a 1965 restoration. After that the car was sold to a buyer in the U.S, who sold it once again in 1970. That owner actually used the car on the roads of California, but the car returned to Italy in 1981 in the hands of an Italian collector. It received a full, authentic and Maserati-overseen restoration in 1987, resulting in its current status.
It isn't the only striking Italian lot at the upcoming Monaco auction. Alongside it is a 1955 Lancia D50A Formula One recreation, built from original plans for the late Tom Wheatcroft, who owned the historic Donington Park circuit for many years. As a recreation its 800,000-900,000 euro estimate ($1.1m-$1.24m) is lower than the "real thing", but this is as close as recreations get to the cars driven by Fangio and Ascari back in 1955.
Another work of art gracing the block in Monaco is a 1954 Bentley R-Type Continental Fastback Sports Saloon by Franay. The ultra-rare car--just three were made in this design--has an estimate of 725,000-1m euros ($999K-$1.37m). The design is a mixture of British class and Gallic flair, the Bentley uses a 178-horsepower, 4,566cc six-cylinder engine with twin SU carbs. The seller describes it as "the grandest of British tourers", and it's up for auction in Monaco on May 10, a few weeks before the Monaco Grand Prix.
If the 1956 Maserati 450S Prototype by Fantuzzi hits its estimate at an RM Auctions sale in Monaco on May 10, one buyer will have spent that amount on that stunning race car alone. Driven by Stirling Moss and Denis Jenkinson at the 1956 Mille Miglia, the car was originally built as a six-cylinder with the chassis number 3501. Before the Mille Miglia race in Italy that year, engineers quickly installed the now-incumbent 5,657cc 90-degree V-8 engine, producing an impressive 520 horsepower. Moss crashed the car when its brakes gave out during the race--perching the car precariously against a tree over a ravine.
Since then the car has gained the chassis number 4501, once used on an entirely different Maserati 450S but now verified for this car. Since then the car has been sold on to various owners, even receiving a Corvette V-8 engine during a 1965 restoration. After that the car was sold to a buyer in the U.S, who sold it once again in 1970. That owner actually used the car on the roads of California, but the car returned to Italy in 1981 in the hands of an Italian collector. It received a full, authentic and Maserati-overseen restoration in 1987, resulting in its current status.
It isn't the only striking Italian lot at the upcoming Monaco auction. Alongside it is a 1955 Lancia D50A Formula One recreation, built from original plans for the late Tom Wheatcroft, who owned the historic Donington Park circuit for many years. As a recreation its 800,000-900,000 euro estimate ($1.1m-$1.24m) is lower than the "real thing", but this is as close as recreations get to the cars driven by Fangio and Ascari back in 1955.
Another work of art gracing the block in Monaco is a 1954 Bentley R-Type Continental Fastback Sports Saloon by Franay. The ultra-rare car--just three were made in this design--has an estimate of 725,000-1m euros ($999K-$1.37m). The design is a mixture of British class and Gallic flair, the Bentley uses a 178-horsepower, 4,566cc six-cylinder engine with twin SU carbs. The seller describes it as "the grandest of British tourers", and it's up for auction in Monaco on May 10, a few weeks before the Monaco Grand Prix.
#8307
Senior Moderator
Are you in a hurry to get to your grave?!?!?!???!?? This hearse is for you.
#8308
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
#8309
AZ Community Team
I saw the 450S that Carroll Shelby raced, and yeah it's pretty.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=8303
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=8303
Maserati raced by Stirling Moss can be yours...if your name is BoostedJack or Altegris...
Gawddarn is it pretty...
Information from here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...sale-in-monaco
Gawddarn is it pretty...
Information from here: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...sale-in-monaco
#8310
Team Owner
i just built a 2014 mustang 5.0 GT with $36,000 sticker (brembo, track package and tech) and checked the price on Truecar
People are getting those at $29xxx now?
Talking about bang for your buck performance.
People are getting those at $29xxx now?
Talking about bang for your buck performance.
#8312
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What's TrueCar on a comparable Camaro?
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#8317
2024 Honda Civic Type R
Hmm I wonder if I could get a really good deal...
Going to search dealer lots now.
#8318
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iTrader: (3)
RIP Focus ST
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#8319
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#8320
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the 2015 Premium Escalade and Premium Escalade ESV, are going for roughly $86,000 and $89,000....