Camaro interior looks nasty IMO. Retro gone wrong with lite brite indiglo gauges

I like the way the X6M looks. I just think it's stupid that it exists when there's an X5M. I know the standard features on the X6 are different from the X5, but sacrificing utility for essentially the same vehicle at a higher price is just silly to me.

 

BMW went pretty crazy with the whole M thing.

 

Are we talking live axle or indy axle

 

Indy of course.

Anyways im over it.

The BMW GT cars do well overseas, its weird. Im not a fan but I do love the X6 and soon X4.

I might be getting old or something but these newer BMWs are waaaaaaaaaay too expensive!

I want another M car after this M3 but they cost too much and cant go down to a normal 3 or 5 after having an M. It just isnt the same.

 

You may have little choice given the days of 3-series with V8s is likely over :/

 

Lets forget about me.

Did you buy a new car yet?

Let me help YOU car shop so i can stop shopping for myself.

 

Very expensive, just buy a 1 year old M for half the price.

 

How about we just solve all our problems and timeshare a nice Porsche 911 GT#?

 

you start.

 

I vote 918 instead of a 911.

 

Hence why I suggested it, dingis.

 

Ill hold the starter money

 

Couple more months. Wish I hadn't gotten the sunroof. I think that has contributed to 75% of my issues with rattles, lower torsional rigidity, etc.

 

Ha I thought I was the only weirdo like that. I try my hardest to not buy a car that has fold down rear seats as the ones I did have always rattled.

 

Weirdo indeed. Talking going from M3 to a Ford weirdo.

 

My car is 5 years old! Thats vintage for me.

Still love it though.

 

Dude, I'd be lovin' the M3 even if she was 10+ years old.

 

Sunroof is one of the biggest things I miss from my Accord. My mom drives a Passat of similar vintage that has a rattling sunroof/headliner, though.

You think a sunroof makes a noticeable difference with rigidity?

 

Very interesting... I feel the same way as Aman.

I'm glad you bring this up, because other than Recaros (must-have) I think my only other option on a Fiesta ST would be a sunroof. That's a damn shame to hear too, after doing some research it seems quite common, at least on the Focus.

Ever review I've seen lauding the Fiesta ST shows a model without a sunroof in the pictures



some people report needing the headliner replaced to get rid of the rattle.

 

I love open-air motoring though... even the pseudo-feel you get from a sunroof. Brightens up the interior too when you pull the shade back... sigh.

 

Given how unhelpful they were about the wiring harness issue I have little hope they would replace my headliner

 

GT3RS 4.0.. I'm in love..

 

I'd rather buy a car I'd like to drive, vs. two POS cars.

 

You'd cry once its out of warranty.

 

Okay. I'm done here. Enjoy paying $60K for a $25K car with a bigger engine in it.

 

I hate this logic.

That's like saying enjoy paying $75k (RS5) for a $40k car (A5) with a bigger engine in it.

 

It's really too bad. I should have held out for a Focus ST without the sunroof. I bet I would be sitting here much happier and not considering getting rid of it if I had stuck to my guns.

It is what it is. But I can absolutely feel the car creaking in a way that I didn't in my Jetta wagon. And for a $30k MSRP, it just really grinds my gears that it's worse at 13k miles than my Jetta was at 77k.

 

Just get a RWD tC that you'd like to call it.

 

My delicate ass cannot deal with those bleacher seats

 

Okay. Point taken. But the guy is being obtuse and frankly while the ZL1 is a hell of a track car it isn't as if the Mustang is a Dacia Sandero

 

Wear padded pants...?

 

Shoulda gotten the regular Focus.

 

Just the sunroof. With a tune the car has serious gitty up.

 

Oh I know, I know.

 

 

lol, so you're telling me the ZL1 is a 1LT with a bigger engine? That's like saying a E9X M3 is like an E9X 328i with a bigger engine. No offense, but there's a reason the ZL1 or a GT500 costs 2x as much as a base version.

That being said I don't particulary care for either. For 60k I'd by the E9X M3/C7/Cayman

 

Or how about the Z28 for 95k.

 

I had heard $75K. Still a LOT.

Though a ZL1 beats a 430 Scuderia at VIR by over two seconds, I am expecting the Z28 to be even faster. Maybe even '14 Stingray fast.

 

I'm crying right now cuz I'm out an M3...

 

official pricing was announced at 75k