Costco

To be fair, that's got some balls. It's a pretty damn nice car... entry level luxury if you will.

The 6 starts at about $21k, right in the range of "nobody cares" for new cars


I love the Q50 as well though

CLtotheTL32

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Yeah sorry, I meant to say it wasn't in the same league, but I just feel the same way about the Q50 as you do for the 6

I almost test drove a Q50 today but knew that I would be miserable driving home afterwards

ttribe

Yep, it very well could be. I was blowing by it at around 80 and there was some traffic, so I couldn't get a great look at the details, but the shape appears very similar.

charliemike

If I had money to blow, I'd probably go look at an ELR. Such a beautiful car. Too bad it's so damned expensive.

Rick_TL-S

At least the brand's image is strong enough to sell such a car at that price now. That was such a shot in the foot with the XLR.

Yumcha

So, in this lovely pic...who'd win on a track?

And, does it matter?

CLtotheTL32

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Your question can be answered by watching this

Yumcha

I'll take the Koenigsegg.

CLtotheTL32

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No, it's mine. You can have the VW.

Yumcha

srika

pretty car indeed. Tesla sells their cars for about the same $, why can't Cadillac charge that much too?

speedemon90

Now I haven't read much into it yet. But this car has essentially the same powertrain as the volt right? I saw it gets 35 miles on battery and then a 1.4L engine as a range extender. So the luxury amenities in this car add 40k? They should have made it say 75 miles on battery or something.

What does the 300 mile range tesla start at? Their website is currently down so i cant tell.

srika

you're also paying extra for its looks.

charliemike

Did anyone see the 2014 Camaro Z/28's 'Ring lap time?

7:37.47. That makes it four seconds faster than a ZL1 but faster than the 991 Carrera S, the F430 Scuderia, and the Mercedes SLS. It's seriously fast. More than a second faster than a LFA.

srika

I did see that, I thought I was dreaming. CRAZY!

MarbleGT

Thats nuts.

This morning, I'd like you all to know, I submitted my entry in the Publishers Clearing House. If I win, we're all going to Germany.

Yumcha

Cool. And buy poor Golfie an Audi S5 in white. That way, we can make a poor kid's vaporcar a reality.

MarbleGT

RPhilMan1

That's awesome. And I love how GM stripped all of the non-essentials out to make it truly a track car (and manual transmission to boot).

However, those taillights are just awful. And GM really needs to step up its headlight design and start to integrate newer, more efficient, and aesthetically-pleasing technology (yeah a bit picky, but get with the times).

And priced higher than the ZL1???

Yumcha

And, Marble, can you get me a ticket to Italy instead? I need to leghump the Poopdick McFartington and some Paganis.

Yumcha

Cool no doubt...but, Corvette just looks better, you know? Unless speed is absolutely everything for a car.


I'd take the Corvette.

Aman

Is it priced similarly with the Corvette?

I'd take the ZL1 over the Z28, I think. Even though it's quicker around the 'Ring, it's hard to wrap my head around more money for less power/amenities. Would be much cooler if it was simply a stripped out version of the ZL1 IMO.

I agree with RPhil about the looks of the rear. Taillights look like something GM brought from the late '70s. The front end would look better with HIDs or something similar, but I guess this front just goes along with the non-essential theme.

charliemike

I'm not a fan of either car but I think the new Corvette is an abomination. It's typical Bubba-fied American overstyling. It's going to be incredibly dated in a few years because of all that superfluous black plastic shit all over it. And the tail ... Jesus.

Really too bad because the car itself is remarkable.

Majofo

Z/28

I think the new Corvette is okay.. that freaking wheel gap is the biggest eyesore imo.

chill_dog

I like the front end of that Z28.

MarbleGT

Why not both

I'll have to see a few more Corvettes before I decide whether or not I like it. The C6 was, IMO, great when it came out....hell, still looks amazing in most cases. Im not sure what they were thinking on the new one.

CLtotheTL32

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The new Corvette is better looking in person. The wheel gap is still VERY noticeable though

Majofo

yep.. saw one this past weekend. The gap is real.

CLtotheTL32

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Indeed it is. Here's a picture I took of one earlier this month

savage

The track was a bit wet as well, some drizzle. The car definitely kicked loose as he was exiting one of the turns.

charliemike

The track is so long I wonder what it would do in the dry?

charliemike

If I bought one of those it would only be if I could lower the car and figure out a way to paint that horrid black plastic the body color. Including the rear.

Yumcha

Well boys, we ARE just comparing the Corvette and the Camaro...So, as per the discussion, if we are picking between just these two rides, it'd have to be the former strictly on looks and its history.

Still, gimme an M3 or M4 and I'll be done with it. Don't care if either American cars are faster.

MarbleGT

Fixed. If they'd make that retarded plastic skirt THAT SCRAPES ON EVERYTHING ANYWAY a little smaller they could lower it a bit.

Costco

What plastic skirt are you talking about? The one in front of the tires?

That has functioned as a device to route air to the radiator ever since the C5. I can't even remember what the C7 looks like underhood but I wouldn't be surprised if the radiator was sloped backwards. This is how they get that low, long hood in a front-engined car. People take that skirt off of their Camaros and Corvettes and their cars start overheating.


In any case I also can't stand that huge swath of black plastic. I'm all for diffusers, which I love when implemented well. But it looks extremely cheesy on the Stingray. Here's to hoping the Z06 will remedy that

I can't wait to see what the Z06 can do, especially with their new engine architecture. I'm not so much a GM fanboy as I am a GM powertrain fanboy. Whenever I see some tiny car with an LSx swapped in, it gives me wood.

speedemon90

I can't believe how the camaro went that fast!

Speaking of Camaro's the USC autoclub I'm is growing a relations ship with GM. This is the clubs second year in existence. Anyway GM told the pres. how they have two camaro's they will be giving us for the week! I think the only rule is the people driving need to be 21 and over. So the selection is gonna be random and the keys will be passed along various members of the club to test it out. No clue how long we'll get to use it for. Just hope my name gets picked
Although I dunno where I'm gonna park my corolla... I have only one spot in LA.

Costco

Camaro SS? Or... ?

If they give you guys SS's, enjoy. A lot of people enjoy the surging power of a turbo kicking in, but I found I enjoyed the gobs of low end torque of a pushrod V8 just as much.

srika

well let's not forget the Z28 is setup to be a vehicle for roadracing, and has some serious parts on it and such. I mean it's not like a Z28 of old. it's nice to see it kick some ass on the ring.

srika

first time I'm hearing of this being done...

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/4129617779.html

speedemon90

we have no clue which model yet... I'm hoping for the SS!