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I would personally get a MX-5 over this in a heartbeat, even if it drives nicely.

srika

I'm no longer interested in buying a LFA. not if the front end could be mistaken for a $20k car.

alright now let's see... here's how it goes down in my book (just going through these photos):

front: B
rear: B+
headlights: B+
front turn signals and assembly: D
wheels: D
taillights: C-
exhaust tips and diffuser area: C- (unecessary i.e. of the 'rice' flavor)
interior: C-

honestly, I'd have to call this a poor - very poor - man's LFA. even the stitching and other cues in the interior resemble it. not the general dash design, though.

srika

uh, not being entirely serious with the LFA comments

speedemon90

there's also the camaro, mustang, challenger, genesis, miata (a ltl more though)

charliemike

Dude, you need higher standards. That's like saying, "She's got a pair of tits. That's all that matters to me."

chill_dog

At least in the latest pictures I saw they blacked out the tails versus the Altezza look.

http://www.insideline.com/scion/fr-s...price-tag.html

CLtotheTL32

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Looks better but the whole car is still bland and disappointing compared to the concept.

KillerG

so driving a scion can be kinda cool now? i guess?

CLtotheTL32

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Meh. Kinda.

Aman

But aren't those all significantly more expensive? Except for maybe the Miata, but I think this is in a different class. Much more practical.

I think it's more like the 7th grade girl who got the most attention because she was more developed than others

charliemike

I realize there are a lot of people out there that want a new car and not a used one but $22k buys a lot of car these days.

Aman

If we're comparing it to used cars as well, that's an entirely different proposition. But remember this car will be sold for used eventually too.

charliemike

I'm just saying that as a consumer, there is nothing about that car that interests me. If they had kept the FT-86 the way it was, I would be a lot more inclined towards buying it.

And that's too bad as there aren't many RWD coupes under $30k. I would definitely get a Genesis base 2.0T for $23,100 before either the Subie or the Scion.

srika

this car has a lot of potential in the aftermarket

srika

wow look at how they did the "reveal".... (scroll down the page to see the start) damn, I would have been HELL disappointed seeing the FRS drive out after seeing all those first cars. lol

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2566

srika

looks much better with these different wheels:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sub5zero/6440019851/http://www.flickr.com/photos/sub5zero/6440019851/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/sub5zero/, on Flickr

ttribe

Agreed. I'm still disappointed they dropped the more aggressive front fascia from the concept though. I don't see why that didn't make it into production.

srika

wtfff.... nice auto that looks like a manual from the passenger side. LOL

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sub5zero/6439703799/http://www.flickr.com/photos/sub5zero/6439703799/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/sub5zero/, on Flickr

ttribe

Ooohhhh...I hadn't seen that before. That's...that's...just bad.

speedemon90

No all those cars start at around 22k.

And remember this price hasn't even been released yet. They are "aiming" for low 20's. There's no saying that it will be mid? Also the subaru is expected to start at like 28k? Thats pretty high.

civicdrivr

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Im loving the Subie version more and more:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=54

Mr. Maker

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Bad ass!!

http://traxxas.com/products/models/electric/6407xo1

civicdrivr

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I saw that yesterday. I wonder how long the batteries last

I used to have an E-Maxx. I loved that thing, but the batteries lasted about 20 minutes. Thats why I switched to nitro, and built a 4-Tec. It was the regular model that I tore it apart and rebuilt it with carbon fiber and aluminum everything. I didn't have a place to run it at full speed, as soon as I hit second gear Id have to shut it down. I sold it about 7 years ago and used the money to buy my first car

MSRP on that particular car is $1900, but its selling for around $1200. Too rich for my blood, plus I have nowhere to run it.

If I did have $400 that I had absolutely no idea what to do with, Id get the 3.3 Jato. Its a 2WD truck, I can use that all over the place.

Also:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNRW3&P=Z

speedemon90

I'm sold on the BRZ, if it hits that price target of 24k lol.

No options needed.

I could have gotten a base GTI for the same price, but adding options which it kinda needs now, adds 2 grand. And that car can't be found anywhere for under 27k, at least its hard.

Costco

There was no way in hell a company like Toyota would release a production car with a front end as aggressive as this:



Just wasn't gonna happen, sorry.

speedemon90

Btw, I love how our arguments for the BRZ and FRS are spread over 3 threads I'm having trouble remembering where I put my stuff!

Costco

heh, yeah. This car is getting a lot of hype, which is a good thing period. I still think we all need to reserve judgment until we see it in person several times. I just wanted to throw that out there to all the ".... but it doesn't look like the concept!" comments. When was the last time you've seen a car that really looked like the concept other than the new Camaro? And even then, I think the new Camaro should have had a much more grown up interior and with smaller dimensions.

and really, I think the rear on the production car looks better than the rear on any of the concepts. The triangular rear fog light is the only thing that looks truly odd.

speedemon90

thank you!

civicdrivr

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civicdrivr

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On a serious note though, I do agree with you Costco. I loved the concept, but never expected Toyota/Subaru to put out a car that looked like that. I was honestly expecting worse from them, but I do like the production model.

Aman

This is the one problem I have with concept cars.

If you base a production car off an attractive but unrealistic concept car, the production car loses many of the concept's attractiveness and many times doesn't flow with the production aspects of a car.

I wish automakers would just design the production model from scratch, so that they can guarantee that the car that ends up on dealer lots always looks good.

srika

agreed, at this point, carmakers should not be doing this. they should have learned from the past. there are some that have learned though (like BMW) and others.

speedemon90

I dont think BMW has learned...

lets wait till the i8 and i3 come out though before we go into that. Is everyone going to be raging that it wont look like the concept either. I wouldnt care and honestly you shouldnt compare production cars to concepts, compare it to other production cars!

And toyobaru looks better than the accord coupe, civic coupe, miata and genesis.

charliemike

Two cents is too much for that opinion

Costco

but yup.

the trololo face got me so bad

srika

for BMW I was talking about the M Concept cars.

Rick_TL-S

So, this is what another member & I got to check out today.


According to the owner, that black 911 was owned by Roy Orbison.

speedemon90

not sure who that guy is, but thats a nice collection!

Guy really loves his porsches

Rick_TL-S

He's a local here in Dallas. Has a very close relationship with the company; raced a 917 at Le Mans back the day.

West6MT

Sweet^^