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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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i mean i like german cars i drove 335xi that one of the members let me drive his bimmer and i can not imagine having this car out of warranty its awesome car but i still think when it come to wrenching your own car Honda is the best

right now i am parting out my CL and i am not sure what to get next...

TL-S, Spec B or CTS-V first gen

also i will pick up some daily beater i decided it will be oldschool benz those are amazing
ah so you get it from having had to work on VW's. I get it. similar to what happened to me when I used to work on Macs in the OS9 days.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
I bet I can get a decent used C6 Z06 for around $35k, eh?

yep I'd rather have that than a Golf R.
Agh.... my ideal car. See, I feel interiors are such a fickle thing.... as long as the ergonomics are in place, other things such as design/materials are moot.

If I could afford it I'd pick up an 08 C6Z and send it to Caravaggio if I really wanted to. You can have a car that shits on Ferraris inside and out AND you can work on it at home.



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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
looking quickly, I found a '06 Z06 for $36K, with the '07s going into the upper 30's and beyond...
What about those Murcielago SV's we saw in the window?
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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yeah see I'm not crazy about the Z06 interior - but I'd let it slide just because the rest of the car is so bad ass.

and, Murci SV... uhh... yeah... I'll get right on that.

btw. Caravaggio interior looks nice
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
and, Murci SV... uhh... yeah... I'll get right on that.
One can dream....
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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And in childhood I was smitten with Ferraris until as I got older I talked to people who were very interested in buying them. Valve adjustments every 10k miles or so, timing belt service every 30k which requires the engine to be dropped, stuff like that.

You'd probably have to or would much prefer going to an actual licensed Ferrari mechanic. $$$$$. Or you might say, but it's a Ferrari, I probably wouldn't drive it much anyway. In that case, what's the point? Letting a glorious car which was meant to be driven sit underneath a cover or just not be driven is stupid

Ferrari is nothing more than a brand, I bet they make more money selling hats, keychains and apparel than they do selling cars. Damned if you do, damned if you don't drive one often. Sometimes it seems like more of a conversation piece than a driving machine.

On the other hand I could probably daily a Z06 and its maintenance would probably be no different than a standard Corvette or even a similarly equipped LS3 Camaro. More oil for the dry sump, sure. But even a shadetree mechanic like me could probably work on a Z06. And you can lower it for free/cheap
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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For $35k I can get a used Elise with money to spare. If I look harder I could find an Exige too. Or a nice NSX. $35k for the Golf R is a bit expensive for me. I understand the Lotus/NSX and the VW are two completely different cars, but still.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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now that we are talking about all the other options, $35k does seem like too much for the Golf.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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I don't know why but I don't like the idea of getting an used car. I gotta get over this though, there seems to be a lot of great used cars..
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Originally Posted by srika
now that we are talking about all the other options, $35k does seem like too much for the Golf.
seriously
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
I don't know why but I don't like the idea of getting an used car. I gotta get over this though, there seems to be a lot of great used cars..
another personal thing, personally for me, I don't think I'll ever buy a new car again.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
another personal thing, personally for me, I don't think I'll ever buy a new car again.
I'm leaning that direction as well. Our previous two cars were both purchased new ('03 Pilot and '06 TL). Don't know if I'll do that again given the deals one can get on a really good used car.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
another personal thing, personally for me, I don't think I'll ever buy a new car again.
This is my first new car and probably my last. I checked the value on my car a month or 2 after I bought it....and holy crap! I never realized the significance of the depreciation hit that others often talk about. But man, when I see the numbers...
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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New cars and used cars have their highs and lows.

Buying a new car is much more expensive, but there's a lot less stress involved. You don't have to worry about how the car was treated, maintenance history, collision damage, or anything that the seller might be hiding.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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you are paying for a lot of piece of mind with a new car ^

you never know what mixed bag of goodies you might end up with on a used car, or what it went through in its previous life. Some are better than others, and sure new cars have problems too, but yeah. Also the feeling of getting a new car and bringing it home from the dealership is pretty awesome, gotta say, you know you all like it too.

Applies to purchasing a used car too but new is just so freshh
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
looking quickly, I found a '06 Z06 for $36K, with the '07s going into the upper 30's and beyond...
With how many miles though? Curious because C6 Z06's still seem to holding their value pretty well.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
I don't know why but I don't like the idea of getting an used car. I gotta get over this though, there seems to be a lot of great used cars..
I'm with you.

I dont like the idea of someone else driving my car lol.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I'm with you.

I dont like the idea of someone else driving my car lol.
I know. For some reason, I can't get over it yet.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Have you guys checked out this car???

http://www.landrover.com/us/en/rr/range-rover-evoque/

I'm thisclose to force my wife to sell her A4 Avant and get this.

So HAWT The pricing isn't too bad either.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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i believe it was top gear's car of the year for 2011. High praise
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
With how many miles though? Curious because C6 Z06's still seem to holding their value pretty well.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
Have you guys checked out this car???

http://www.landrover.com/us/en/rr/range-rover-evoque/

I'm thisclose to force my wife to sell her A4 Avant and get this.

So HAWT The pricing isn't too bad either.
LOVE the Evoque! that is some hot ass sh8t right there.

RR really knows SUV designs, I wonder have they improved on their (dismal) quality record?
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
Have you guys checked out this car???

http://www.landrover.com/us/en/rr/range-rover-evoque/

I'm thisclose to force my wife to sell her A4 Avant and get this.

So HAWT The pricing isn't too bad either.
I saw it at the auto show, its definitely a looker haha. The design is good in and out. Not the most spacious though and kinda pricey? I haven't looked at features so I cant really justify that.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
LOVE the Evoque! that is some hot ass sh8t right there.

RR really knows SUV designs, I wonder have they improved on their (dismal) quality record?
I'm so curious on the reliability rating too. Such a shame because they make beautiful cars.

Originally Posted by speedemon90
I saw it at the auto show, its definitely a looker haha. The design is good in and out. Not the most spacious though and kinda pricey? I haven't looked at features so I cant really justify that.
REALLY??? To me, it looks like something that's in the upper $60-70k.

ANNNNND just for the record, this is the car that looks exactly the same as its concept car!
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I also think the Golf R is a bit expensive for what it is.

The options that charliemike listed, most (if not all) are in the GTI Autobahn. So you're essentially paying $4k for AWD and a slightly tuned up engine. And $600 for Stage 1 can put the GTI in ~300hp/250tq territory.
Umm, 70 horsepower and AWD for $4k is not a bad deal.

And APR's Stage 1 for the 2.0T in the GTI is 252/303 not 300/250. Kinda a big difference.

But if you don't think it's worth it, that's why it's great to have choices. You can spend the money on something else
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but but but $4k worth of goodies on GTI = FAST

Both are great cars for their prices. It's just a matter of preference.
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Originally Posted by srika
I bet I can get a decent used C6 Z06 for around $35k, eh?

yep I'd rather have that than a Golf R.


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I'm so curious on the reliability rating too. Such a shame because they make beautiful cars.



REALLY??? To me, it looks like something that's in the upper $60-70k.

ANNNNND just for the record, this is the car that looks exactly the same as its concept car!
Yea okk it does look expensive, nvm i do take that comment back the quality of materials inside was really nice. I just thought it had a small engine

and on the concept comment, touche
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What's the engine size for that car? I don't event know that. hahaha The look of it just got me so excited. Crazy.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I'm with you.

I dont like the idea of someone else driving my car lol.
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I know. For some reason, I can't get over it yet.
I hear you. And I have similar feelings, IF I think about it. And that's the trick, don't think about it. Also if it's a car you are passionate about, get one that is "like new". And by that I mean under or around 10k miles.
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What's the engine size for that car? I don't event know that. hahaha The look of it just got me so excited. Crazy.
Evoque? It's got Ford's Ecoboost Turbo 4 in it.
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I hear you. And I have similar feelings, IF I think about it. And that's the trick, don't think about it. Also if it's a car you are passionate about, get one that is "like new". And by that I mean under or around 10k miles.
Yeah, for my next car, I'm going to try to find something that's under 10k miles. It's either going to be M3 sedan with less than 10k miles OR a MX-5 as a second car.

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Evoque? It's got Ford's Ecoboost Turbo 4 in it.
Just remembered I read a review couple weeks ago. And yes, the review was great in terms of the engine performance also! And it's a SUV, if it goes, then it's fine.
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Originally Posted by srika
You've got quite a few in your area! As far as C6 Z06s go, most of the ones here on the used market are '08s & up. I checked last night & only found 1 2006 & 1 2007 model, both for $40K+.
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^^ those aren't in my area, look at the cities, they are all over the place.
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^^ those aren't in my area, look at the cities, they are all over the place.
Oh.
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You know whats another good plan! Just be wealthy enough so that you dont even have to think about getting hit with the depreciation
I know I'm gonna face another problem in life, selling cars or getting rid of them.

As much as i want a new car I dont wanna see my tl go and I know eventually its got too

But yea you get my point.
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The second you make enough to pick up whatever shiny new F-car is out, you wouldnt even think twice about getting rid of the TL.

But I hope if you are able to afford a Ferrari, just fuck with the dealer and make them accept the TL as a trade in
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I can see the ad now:

2000 Taffeta White TL: 180,000 miles, one owner! Leather, sunroof. Call Don at Ferrari/Lamborghini/Rolls Royce of Southern California.
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Club-Track edition under 7:00 @ the 'Ring?

For a production car under $110k that's just insane.
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