asianspec

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Already?

Mizouse

It's not being replaced, it's just a higher model with more power.

asianspec

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oh

is300eater

Ugh, so a couple weeks ago I attended a Sony event put on by the Regional rep where they had several units of the RX1 and RX100 for people to try. Well that night the rep casually mentioned something about a rumored lens and confirmed it. He never said to keep it on the down low, we were all hanging out at a Starbucks. So the other day this rumored lens was brought up in a Sony forum so I posted it casually, not thinking of anything. Anyway, I haven't gone back to that thread and didn't realize that it has now gone pages and pages based on what I said and another forum picked up on it and quoted me, bringing my comment over there, so the 2 biggest Sony forums are spinning this out of control.

So I get an email from the Sony rep "We need to chat, please call me when you can"
And I knew I had gotten him in trouble. I feel really bad because he's getting calls and emails from people above him

srika

while it seems ugly, there's the kicker right there. that's all you need. it's his fault for yapping in the first place, not yours.

got links? can we see?

asianspec

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Ken. But yea it was the reps fault for not saying anything about keeping it on thr DL

Mizouse

If you didn't sign a NDA then they can't do anything.

Mizouse

But yea I wouldn't have said anything thou, might've gotten that guy fired.

is300eater

The rep DID say that there ARE some positives out of this but still he's getting emails from other reps saying "man I hope you don't get in trouble for this" with the links attached

On one hand it's like free press about an up coming lens (that Sony doesn't have to pay) but what they don't like reading is people posting comments that they'll wait for the new version and forego the current one. And they'll have inventory sitting around

Mizouse

Yea makes sense, its lost sales.

i say They should learn from apple and cut down production close to a new release since people will wait or return the previous gen model if a new one is on the horizon

pttl

They will probably end up sending you a thank you for creating such a positive buzz. It'll probably be their best selling lens ever.

asianspec

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Or he might get a free lens to shut up.

Mizouse

Mizouse

ohh i see

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-r...t-lens-update/

pttl

ETTR...Any of you guys/ladies (Sorry D. ) do this regularly?

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tu...exposure.shtml

wndrlst

Yes, sometimes, but not always. I frequently shoot in situations (portraits, wedding dresses) where detail in the highlights is more important than detail in the shadows, and I don't want to blow them so badly that I can't get them back. No one cares what the groom's tux fabric looks like, but lose the intricate lace details on the bride's dress and you're screwed.

Also, some colors (green/blue/purple) pop much better when slightly underexposed, so it will really depend on what I'm shooting and the final look I'm aiming for.

I do always prefer slightly overexposed to slightly underexposed from a noise perspective. Noise is greatly amplified by adjusting your exposure upward in post. Much more so than if you had adjusted your exposure at the time of capture - even if it means cranking the iso higher than you'd like.

Short answer is yes - I've read this argument before about the bit distribution through the different parts of the curve, and it has definitely affected how I make my exposures.

wndrlst

I should add the caveat that my post-production style deliberately crushes the blacks a bit in order to intensify color, and I don't mind shadow loss as much as some do, so take my reply with a grain of salt.

In serious landscape photography, I think the shadow detail becomes much more important.

srika

so, I realized something - not shooting the 5D3 much = me being lazy.

being lazy to learn the camera.

well I have started to use it now at the club events, and learning it. at first I was shooting M1 RAW and the file sizes were 24-30MB each... on the high end, I mean there's really no reason for me to be using that much space for events like this. They are of a rudimentary nature and do not need that. So I got used to it shot a few times, and then switched to M1 JPG last night.... oh yes I can get used to THESE file sizes

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pttl

^
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Thank you! Your thinking is reasonable and certainly makes sense to me.

jupitersolo

If jpegs will work for yah!

jupitersolo

I have listen to and spoken with Seth Resnick on this. When do this and then pulling it back in LR or ACR, you get much more of the file and details. Next time you shoot over exposure some of your images (same shots) and see what the details look like. I'm curious on the fine, fine details you are speaking of. Because I don't shoot those subjects.

pttl

Red text?

jupitersolo

No, jpegs are much better than they have been. I still don't like them for what I shoot. But many are able to use them for the subjects they do. The main thing I hate about them, every time you open them, they get worse.

srika

yeah it's all about what you shoot - for my specific purposes of club events, I do not need to shoot RAW's, but for instance the model shoot I am doing tonight, I will shoot RAW, even though I could get by with JPG. It just has to do with application.

jupitersolo

A friend of mine has the Fuji XE-1, everything that he shoots, I would be shooting NEF. He's shooting jpeg and it's looks great!

An EX-1 is on my horizon!

srika

that's why you don't ever edit the original files - Lightroom makes it easy working with copies and all.

asianspec

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I even though jpgs are space friendly. i would probably still shoot raw for everything.

Mizouse

Yea for club pics I'd shoot full size jpeg.

Although I'd probably hate myself if I took a pic I really liked....

pttl

ahh....I see. Thanks for the clarification.

This is why I'll continue to shoot everything in RAW. I guess I will until i figure out wtf i'm doing.

wndrlst

You're welcome!

Oh, I've overexposed plenty of shots. If they're barely overexposed, it's nbd, but if it's climbing the wall on the right, I can get into trouble. I don't mind if it's just specular highlights, of course, but if it's a bald guy's head in the sun or the bride's dress, you lose important pieces and they can't be recovered.

I will say I have a LOT more latitude with the 5D3 than the 7D's. A lot. I don't worry quite as much now, which is nice. Though I'm not currently accepting weddings. :/ It's still nice to be able to relax about overexposure just a little with portraits, since I do believe in the merits of sttr.

srika

for last night's event I went to S1 JPG... 2880x1920. plenty fine, went well. they need the files delivered at 1800px on the long end.

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Mizouse

Do you crop? Might cut it close if you have to.

srika

try to get it as close to final crop as possible while taking the image. saves a lot of time.

I mean ideally I try to get the final crop, while taking the image.

asianspec

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Yeah I am trying to do everything in camera as much as I can so there less to do in post production.

is300eater

I like doing post production, I think it's fun, it's a whole other side of photography. But if i was a busy PAID photographer that would be a different story

srika

I love doing post processing too - but this is a question of maximizing time and efficiency. Especially this week since I am working 6 events (Wed-Sun). I just want to make it as easy as possible in terms of workflow. So that is why I am particularly focusing on getting it as close to final as possible SOOC. If I am doing precise work where ultimate quality is paramount, it's always RAW.

srika

completely fine. I'm trying to maximize space and efficiency, due to volume. that is all that's happening there.

is300eater

oh I'm sure having THAT much photos to do isn't going to be as "fun"... Last August I attended a wedding/reception and brought my gear... I snapped away like there's no tomorrow...and when it came time to do them on the computer, I was rather overwhelmed with the amount of stuff to go through. So, I can only imagine people that do it full time

mdkxtreme

This.

One of the most enjoying part of photography for me is being able to post process them. I finished my last final couple of days ago and the feeling I got when I am able to sit down and post process some photos was pretty serene. It's been awhile since I've had some time to do it.

is300eater

when I'm bored or perhaps it has been raining too much (and believe me... it rains a crap load here in Vancouver), I oftentimes go back to old pictures and re-PP them just because my style and skills in PP have evolved. And it's interesting to see the difference in outcome... Or maybe not so much better PP results, but cool to see what you can do to a RAW file and twist it to different images