SSFTSX

Megane electric orders just starting. French not stupid. they started with Plug-In hybrids. now transitioning to BEV. They have very competent Automotive industry. look at there Mergers and Acquisitions.

The reason for chip shortage in US. as Elon in his infinite wisdom has built a factory in Silicon valley in California. It has sucked all the skilled labor and all the stock market gains without investing in Fabs.


There is not much increase in Chinese car prices and they hardly face chip shortages when you look Honda managed to sell 148K vehicles in October. Honda sells Plug in and Electrics in China. they use much higher chip content than Honda of America.

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Costco

Elon has already started backpedaling on LiDAR. Under/over for when his nuthuggers follow suit, proclaiming this was the plan all along?

oonowindoo

News flash, people were driving in thick fog even before Elon was born. Accidents do happen, but most of the people made out of the fog alive.

That 1 video does not prove anything.

I have driven through Thick fog + heavy rain + freezing temperature + curve + steep downhill AKA nights during winter months @ Cajon pass, I would trust my eye and my human judgement than any shit from Elon Musk.

I for one will NEVER use autopilot in those conditions...

Comfy

Totally unexpected, right???

SamDoe1

There are conditions where autopilot and FSD flat out won't even give you the option to engage them. Snow, heavy rain, heavy fog, etc and it'll lock itself out. The new version of FSD is horribly flawed, tons of people (real ones, not twitter fucktards) are disabling it for fear of it crashing them into a curb. Random phantom braking, can't handle a right turn smoothly, doesn't see some cross traffic, roundabouts are pretty much impossible, etc. Lots of comments that it's dangerous on city streets. It's not ready for the real world. Getting closer, but not nearly close to being there.

Edit: The fog in that video isn't even bad. The car has no problem seeing through it just as any human would be able to.

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oonowindoo

But according to them that was done in Autopilot. not FSD.
When i re-read that shit again, it made me LOL again

I had to drive through Fog in the mountain that literally feels like i am driving with a white wall 2 feet in front of me... just have to keep a very very very long distance from the car ahead of you and turn up all the sensitivity levels on all of the driving assistance stuff and hoping the car behind you do the same.
Turn on FSD or Autopilot or even TESTING it in those condition will not even cross my mind...

SamDoe1

At the end of the day, FSD and/or AP cannot see better than you can. It's a camera that views in the visible light spectrum so it can see the exact same thing as your eyes do. These are the idiots that told me that the cameras are redundant only for me to prove them wrong because I actually own one and tried it. Now if only they had a radar sensor for that dense fog...

oonowindoo

Oh no.. let me ask Comfy to prove you wrong

oonowindoo

https://www.kulr8.com/news/national/...7bc82c3c7.html

If anything, that is more scary. Not only you have to pay 100% attention to the road, cuz you never know when the car will do something weird. Now you also have to worry about correcting things that you normally would not have to.

SSFTSX

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59357306

Tesla drivers left unable to start their cars after outage

Tesla drivers say they have been locked out of their cars after an outage struck the carmaker's app.

Dozens of owners posted on social media about seeing an error message on the mobile app that was preventing them from connecting to their vehicles.

Tesla chief executive Elon Musk personally responded to one complaint from a driver in South Korea, saying on Twitter: "Checking."

Mr Musk later said the app was coming back online.

The Tesla app is used as a key by drivers to unlock and start their cars.

Owners posted a multitude of complaints online about not being able to use their vehicles.


"I'm stuck an hour away from home because I normally use my phone to start [my] car," one owner tweeted.

About 500 users reported an error on the app at around 16:40 ET (21:40 GMT) on Friday, according to the outage tracking site DownDetector. Five hours later, there were just over 60 reports of an error.

"Apologies, we will take measures to ensure this doesn't happen again," .

biker

Mods, move that ^ last post to the Tesla sales thread.

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Continuous improvements…

Pair of TLs

App outage locks hundreds of Tesla drivers out of cars

"About 500 users reported they faced an error at about 4.40pm ET (9.40pm GMT), according to outage monitoring website Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status reports from a series of sources, including user-submitted errors on its platform...Stuart Masson, editor of the Car Expert website, told the BBC that Tesla drivers were not entirely reliant on the app. “There will be a secondary mechanism to get in or out of the car beyond the app, the difficulty will come for drivers if they are not carrying it,” he said."

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...usk-apologises

oonowindoo

You are telling me that Praying to Elon did not help when you are locked out?

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Comfy

But it’s not possible. FSD is the sh** st software ever invented and can’t drive even on a straight line by itself. Bwaaahahahahahaha….
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This video does a good job explaining FSDBeta Release Notes terms like VRU, precision, and recall


"Enabled emergency collision avoidance maneuvering in shadow mode" 👀

SamDoe1

Word through the grapevine is that version 10.5 of FSD is much improved over the previous versions. People are still not trusting of it to drive on its own without substantial supervision though. One guy (who owns a MS Plaid and a MX and has a MX Plaid on order) has said that AP is better than FSD in almost every way and the radar version of AP is better than vision only.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

*spit* Heresy! Who paid him off?? Ford? Toyota? Big oil? Biden???

SamDoe1

Why not all of them? Probably toss Rivian and Lucid into that mix too. Also add in Bezos.

It's certainly surprising what you find when you ask real owners of their experience/opinions on a product and not exclusively listen to twitter shills.

oonowindoo

if you saw the video of that CNN guy driving the Model 3 in NY. it was just scary...

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pttl

Nothing big brother about that.

oonowindoo

It is all invasion of privacy and un-American until Elon wants to see it

Whatever you do, make sure you dont do anything in the backseat. I am not sure where the Interior cameras are located but you dont wanna end up on xvideo

Comfy

ha ha

Comfy

Tesla offers free supercharging for all cars during off peak hours of holidays.

What a way to reduce congestion at superchargers and avoid traffic!!!

Presently it’s only limited to select routes California but I guess they could easily do that all over USA if needed.

Would any gas stations do that…?
Or even any third party EV chargers while we are at it ….?

https://electrek.co/2021/11/24/tesla...liday-traffic/

SamDoe1

So...not for all cars then, just cars in California along select routes.

pttl

Just another bs point that has zero effect on 99% of the country. But as long as comfy can post it and , then it makes him happy.

oonowindoo

I will be flying using FUEL!!! Unless we are talking about 2am to 5am, otherwise there is NO off peak hours during holiday travels, especially from LA to Vegas.

I have absolutely 0 interest in sitting in traffic for hrs 0 emission or not... then go wait in line at the supercharging station.

Comfy

That 1% is going to be the overwhelming majority in near future. LOL. You are so clueless. But whatever floats your boat.

pttl

"near future " lol. You're an idiot.

Tomorrow is promised to no one.

SamDoe1

The overwhelming majority are going to live in California along select routes? Man, that real estate market is going to be even more batshit crazy.

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SamDoe1

But you still have to tug the wheel every minute or so...that in itself makes it not full self driving lol.

Legend2TL

Tesla is allowing owners and repair shops some access to their vehicle electronics & S/W.
Good positive move

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SSFTSX

unless driver is under influence but still auto brake should mitigate.
there is crash in fog for Tesla in Redondo beach.

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