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If Autopilot called EMS to save the guy (like Onstar), then maybe you have an argument for it saving his life. If it had stopped in the middle of nowhere with no one around, would Autopilot have made a difference?
If Autopilot called EMS to save the guy (like Onstar), then maybe you have an argument for it saving his life. If it had stopped in the middle of nowhere with no one around, would Autopilot have made a difference?
On star gets activated after your vehicle crashes/ air bag deploys, right….?
I’m not saying it is not helpful, but isn’t averting a crash altogether the better option.
We are approaching the stage where everyone else will dump the radar and hold on to vision for ADAS, and then claim to be the leader in that technology.
^ Also, VW has the same thing called Emergency Assist. Not sure if Ford's CoPilot 360 has it built in too; but it should be part of the hands-free driver monitoring in a later update. Whenever that is. Something something legacy manufacturers right?
Isn’t it funny that most automakers have stopped claiming that having Lidar is the most advanced ADAS technology in their vehicles (makes them seem less stupid).
You can call whatever excuse you want to call it, but it likely saved that person’s life. If you still can’t appreciate it, I feel sorry for you.
I certainly appreciate it doing what it did in that instance but it didn't do it because the guy was dead/dying/sleeping/whatever. It would do that even if you were wide awake eating a glazed donut.
Originally Posted by Comfy
On star gets activated after your vehicle crashes/ air bag deploys, right….?
I’m not saying it is not helpful, but isn’t averting a crash altogether the better option.
Sure but autopilot is only enabled when the driver chooses to enable it. If they don't the car will happily crash into whatever.
Originally Posted by Comfy
Isn’t it funny that most automakers have stopped claiming that having Lidar is the most advanced ADAS technology in their vehicles (makes them seem less stupid).
LIDAR is still the best but it's big, expensive, and clunky. Also ugly. Please note that Waymo (who actually has a L5 self driving) uses LIDAR on all of their cars. Tesla, who only has L2 self driving, uses vision only.
What are you talking about? Outsourcing these tech to software experts is the best. Don’t you know that ….???
Doesn’t matter if the profits also go to them.
Tesla released more details about its effort to deploy large-scale battery recycling, and it claims that it can recover about 92% of battery cell materials with its recycling process.When it comes to emissions throughout the entire lifecycle, electric vehicles have two main advantages over gas-powered vehicles.
When it comes to the operation of the vehicles, electric vehicle owners have more choices of energy sources to charge their vehicles than just gasoline.
They can charge their vehicles using renewable energy, which will greatly reduce emissions generated by the use of their vehicles.
On the manufacturing front, EV detractors often claim that the energy and resources that it takes to build batteries counterbalance all the tailpipe advantages.
However, those detractors often leave out battery recycling, which makes all the difference for the full emission cycles for electric vehicles.
For years now, Tesla has been working with third-party recyclers to recover materials from their end-of-life battery packs.
Today, with the release of its 2020 Impact Report, Tesla released more details on its battery recycling effort.
Tesla confirmed that the first phase of its own battery cell recycling facility was deployed late last year:
“In the fourth quarter of 2020, Tesla successfully installed the first phase of our cell recycling facility at Gigafactory Nevada for in-house processing of both battery manufacturing scrap and end-of-life batteries. While Tesla has worked for years with third-party battery recyclers to ensure our batteries do not end up in a landfill, we understand the importance of also building recycling capacity in-house to supplement these relationships. Onsite recycling brings us one step closer to closing the loop on materials generation, allowing for raw material transfer straight to our nickel and cobalt suppliers. The facility unlocks the cycle of innovation for battery recycling at scale, allowing Tesla to rapidly improve current designs through operational learnings and to perform process testing of R&D products.”
The automaker shared a chart showing that it can recover over 92% of raw battery materials: Tesla also argues that its recycling effort will be even better for its own battery cells manufacturing in-house as the process will be integrated at each manufacturing site:
“As the manufacturer of our in-house cell program, we are best positioned to recycle our products efficiently to maximize key battery material recovery. With the implementation of in-house cell manufacturing at Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg and Gigafactory Texas, we expect substantial increases in manufacturing scrap globally. We intend to tailor recycling solutions to each location and thereby re-introduce valuable materials back into our manufacturing process. Our goal is to develop a safe recycling process with high recovery rates, low costs and low environmental impact. From an economic perspective, we expect to recognize significant savings over the long term as the costs associated with large-scale battery material recovery and recycling will be far lower than purchasing additional raw materials for cell manufacturing.”
In fact, Tesla is now becoming a producer of nickel, cobalt, and other raw materials. Instead of being mined in the field, the materials are being mined from used battery packs.
The company says that it had 1,300 tons of nickel, 400 tons of copper, and 80 tons of cobalt recycled in 2020.
The issue of recycling batteries is so important that Tesla co-founder and long-time CTO JB Straubel quit the company in 2019 to start his own company, Redwood Materials, and develop recycling processes.
Redwood even has a contract to recycle scrap from Panasonic’s battery cell production at Tesla Gigafactory Nevada, where the automaker deployed its own new recycling facility.
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Third party battery suppliers will be much more interested in supplying batteries for an automaker who provides enough raw materials back to them, closing the loop.
Mercedes intelligent drive pilot (level3) Vs Tesla FSD beta (level2).
Why is everyone treating Mercedes and other legacy with kid gloves while Tesla gets the brickbats?
If you objectively look into this, you’ll know which is better. They are not even at the same level
Mercedes intelligent drive pilot (level3) Vs Tesla FSD beta (level2).
Why is everyone treating Mercedes and other legacy with kid gloves while Tesla gets the brickbats?
If you objectively look into this, you’ll know which is better. They are not even at the same level
If this is true and it can't work in the rain or at night that's absolute crap and shouldn't get a L3 tag to it. Those are pretty basic requirements for any system lol.
Tesla released more details about its effort to deploy large-scale battery recycling, and it claims that it can recover about 92% of battery cell materials with its recycling process.When it comes to emissions throughout the entire lifecycle, electric vehicles have two main advantages over gas-powered vehicles.
When it comes to the operation of the vehicles, electric vehicle owners have more choices of energy sources to charge their vehicles than just gasoline.
They can charge their vehicles using renewable energy, which will greatly reduce emissions generated by the use of their vehicles.
On the manufacturing front, EV detractors often claim that the energy and resources that it takes to build batteries counterbalance all the tailpipe advantages.
However, those detractors often leave out battery recycling, which makes all the difference for the full emission cycles for electric vehicles.
For years now, Tesla has been working with third-party recyclers to recover materials from their end-of-life battery packs.
Today, with the release of its 2020 Impact Report, Tesla released more details on its battery recycling effort.
Tesla confirmed that the first phase of its own battery cell recycling facility was deployed late last year:
“In the fourth quarter of 2020, Tesla successfully installed the first phase of our cell recycling facility at Gigafactory Nevada for in-house processing of both battery manufacturing scrap and end-of-life batteries. While Tesla has worked for years with third-party battery recyclers to ensure our batteries do not end up in a landfill, we understand the importance of also building recycling capacity in-house to supplement these relationships. Onsite recycling brings us one step closer to closing the loop on materials generation, allowing for raw material transfer straight to our nickel and cobalt suppliers. The facility unlocks the cycle of innovation for battery recycling at scale, allowing Tesla to rapidly improve current designs through operational learnings and to perform process testing of R&D products.”
The automaker shared a chart showing that it can recover over 92% of raw battery materials: Tesla also argues that its recycling effort will be even better for its own battery cells manufacturing in-house as the process will be integrated at each manufacturing site:
“As the manufacturer of our in-house cell program, we are best positioned to recycle our products efficiently to maximize key battery material recovery. With the implementation of in-house cell manufacturing at Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg and Gigafactory Texas, we expect substantial increases in manufacturing scrap globally. We intend to tailor recycling solutions to each location and thereby re-introduce valuable materials back into our manufacturing process. Our goal is to develop a safe recycling process with high recovery rates, low costs and low environmental impact. From an economic perspective, we expect to recognize significant savings over the long term as the costs associated with large-scale battery material recovery and recycling will be far lower than purchasing additional raw materials for cell manufacturing.”
In fact, Tesla is now becoming a producer of nickel, cobalt, and other raw materials. Instead of being mined in the field, the materials are being mined from used battery packs.
The company says that it had 1,300 tons of nickel, 400 tons of copper, and 80 tons of cobalt recycled in 2020.
The issue of recycling batteries is so important that Tesla co-founder and long-time CTO JB Straubel quit the company in 2019 to start his own company, Redwood Materials, and develop recycling processes.
Redwood even has a contract to recycle scrap from Panasonic’s battery cell production at Tesla Gigafactory Nevada, where the automaker deployed its own new recycling facility.
****************************
Third party battery suppliers will be much more interested in supplying batteries for an automaker who provides enough raw materials back to them, closing the loop.
I'm so glad to see companies in the US thinking about this. EU mandates this.
^ That is idiotic even if the car doesn't need air to run. Any amount of current and that car is gone with whoever is in it. Also, the doors are not sealed for pressure ingress.
I thought it was awesome when they said that as a Tesla with FSD approaches another oncoming car, they run the FSD software on the other car based on it’s momentum and direction and try to predict its future trajectory. In essence they are running the software parallel on multiple cars at a time to decide the best course of action.
Legacy believes in outsourcing critical technology to third parties and then squeezing them for profit margins thinking that their economy of scale will do the trick. See how that worked out with LG for batteries. Now they can’t even sue LG for reimbursement since that may negatively affect their future supplies with LG. Screwed. LOL.
There’s a difference when you buy something from a restaurant vs employing a cook in your own kitchen for a specific purpose. If you can’t understand that,…???
The point is Tesla is not fully dependent on third parties and Panasonic knows it. Therefore they will try their best to keep Tesla happy.
07-31-2021, 10:13 PM
Tesla also argues that its recycling effort will be even better for its own battery cells manufacturing in-house as the process will be integrated at each manufacturing site:
Agreed. I am not sure what that video is trying to tell us? Tesla is a submarine? 