Lexus: IS News
#1361
bleh. It looks like they're going the route of Mercedes' AMG with no manual for a "performance" oriented car. I wonder if Lexus even reads magazine reviews or surveys public opinion. Everyone complains about the IS not having a manual yet they still don't respond. And they excuse it by saying:
"The intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans," said Carter. "Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'"
Hello. As long as you've got a car with those specs you're in direct competition with BMW "M", MB "AMG", Audi "RS", and even Caddy's "V" series cars. Thank God for the RS4 and upcoming M3.
"The intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans," said Carter. "Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'"
Hello. As long as you've got a car with those specs you're in direct competition with BMW "M", MB "AMG", Audi "RS", and even Caddy's "V" series cars. Thank God for the RS4 and upcoming M3.
#1362
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/lexus-is-f/
morepics.
Will fit in with the C55 im sure. I just think they are showcasing a "F" image the wrong way by releasing a car with an automatic.
morepics.
Will fit in with the C55 im sure. I just think they are showcasing a "F" image the wrong way by releasing a car with an automatic.
#1366
Worst things about the car:
1) weird proportions of the front end
2) overall lumpyness
3) worst exhaust I've ever seen
4) could they have made that "F" any bigger? I'd debadge it before I left the dealer.
5) 8-speed auto? I'd rather have a CVT, but really I'd prefer a conventional manual.
1) weird proportions of the front end
2) overall lumpyness
3) worst exhaust I've ever seen
4) could they have made that "F" any bigger? I'd debadge it before I left the dealer.
5) 8-speed auto? I'd rather have a CVT, but really I'd prefer a conventional manual.
#1369
The speculation and hearsay is finally over. Lexus, having failed to match the basic BMW 3-series with the IS, is going straight for the big dog M3 with its new IS-F. Under the massively bulged hood you see here is a 5.0-liter beast of a V-8 engine putting out over 400 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque. Behind big nineteen-inch BBS front wheels lie six-pot aluminum Brembo calipers--the first ever with "Lexus" written across them--squeezing down on 14.2-inch perforated discs that hope to also clamp down on the lips of Lexus-doubters.
The IS-F borrows its far-beyond-necessity eight-speed transmission from the LS, but unlike in the LS, gearbox can be controlled via wheel-mounted paddles. Lexus claims that upshifts are popped off in a tenth of a second, and downshifts are met with automated blips of the throttle to match engine revs.
The IS-F rides up to an inch lower than other IS models, and is wider overall thanks to flared wheel surrounds and ridiculous brake vents behind the front wheels. At the rear, the IS-F is distinguished by unique, stacked quad exhaust outlets. Aluminum trim and sport seats--finished in black or white leather--define the interior, along with a special button for a new three-mode version of VDIM, Lexus's stability control system. Like similar systems from BMW and Cadillac, the driver can chose from a full-on stability mode, a sport mode that allows for some hoonery, and a full off mode that opens the flood gate for full drift action.
And full-on drifts won't be a problem with all that power. Lexus estimates a 0-60 mph time of less than 4.9 seconds for the IS-F, which is the first Lexus "F" cars. "F" will be the designation for sporty Lexus cars, much like "M" is to BMW, "AMG" to Mercedes, and "S" and "RS" are to Audi.
Lexus general manager Bob Carter says that "the intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans. Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'" We hope that this unique interpretation is something brand new, because the Lexus experience we think of leans toward the numb, soulless side of the scale. With the debut of the IS-F, the task of creating a real performer appears to be complete for Lexus engineers. But now the real test begins. Can the fusing of the words "Lexus" and "performance" capture the hearts of the enthusiasts who matter? We'll find out when the IS-F arrives at dealerships in early 2008.
The IS-F borrows its far-beyond-necessity eight-speed transmission from the LS, but unlike in the LS, gearbox can be controlled via wheel-mounted paddles. Lexus claims that upshifts are popped off in a tenth of a second, and downshifts are met with automated blips of the throttle to match engine revs.
The IS-F rides up to an inch lower than other IS models, and is wider overall thanks to flared wheel surrounds and ridiculous brake vents behind the front wheels. At the rear, the IS-F is distinguished by unique, stacked quad exhaust outlets. Aluminum trim and sport seats--finished in black or white leather--define the interior, along with a special button for a new three-mode version of VDIM, Lexus's stability control system. Like similar systems from BMW and Cadillac, the driver can chose from a full-on stability mode, a sport mode that allows for some hoonery, and a full off mode that opens the flood gate for full drift action.
And full-on drifts won't be a problem with all that power. Lexus estimates a 0-60 mph time of less than 4.9 seconds for the IS-F, which is the first Lexus "F" cars. "F" will be the designation for sporty Lexus cars, much like "M" is to BMW, "AMG" to Mercedes, and "S" and "RS" are to Audi.
Lexus general manager Bob Carter says that "the intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans. Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'" We hope that this unique interpretation is something brand new, because the Lexus experience we think of leans toward the numb, soulless side of the scale. With the debut of the IS-F, the task of creating a real performer appears to be complete for Lexus engineers. But now the real test begins. Can the fusing of the words "Lexus" and "performance" capture the hearts of the enthusiasts who matter? We'll find out when the IS-F arrives at dealerships in early 2008.
#1370
Lexus general manager Bob Carter says that "the intent of creating the IS-F was not to be a competitor to other performance-sport sedans. Rather, the goal was to create a true performance sedan in a uniquely Lexus way-one that is totally authentic with a unique interpretation of raw driving thrill at all speeds and provides a whole new definition of 'usable power.'"
#1373
Originally Posted by gavriil
Translation: This thing is nowhere near ready to compete with the big league and it's our first try and we know we are behind is so many ways.
well said.
Would explain why they arent releasing any engine numbers. They waiting for the M3s maybe?
I would be shocked if lexus actually released that car being that low.
Last edited by Crazy Bimmer; 01-08-2007 at 04:57 PM.
#1374
Originally Posted by jiggaman
i guess i'm the only one that likes it huh...
#1376
Judging by the side profile and the amount of front overhang caused by the V-8, this thing looks like its gonna have alot of weight over the front wheels. That pretty much ruins the nice weight distribution the oringinal IS had. I'm guessing, but I doubt it'll be able to handle as well as an M3 or AMG C-class.
#1377
Dam that is one ugly front bumper and side flares. Don't like the dual exhaust on top of each other as it looks pretty tacky. Maybe that design will be the "in thing" but it doesn't look like it will grow on me anytime soon. The only thing that is hot about this car is what is put under the hood. Other than that.....I think the IS350 still looks way better in terms of the exterior of the car.
#1378
Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
That has got to be one of the UGLIEST side profiles of ANY car I have EVER seen. I couldn't rice out a Civic to look uglier even if I wanted too.
The hood, the bumper, the fenders...
The hood, the bumper, the fenders...
Big And riced out is exactly what it looks like, which isn't good for a production Lexus.
#1381
the exterior is growing on me.
however, with bmw and its M3, they have still maintained the look of luxury on the sheet-metal, while dropping in major performance upgrades.
i find the ls-f can look like a kit car to some (i.e. pontiac fiero -> lambo countach).
still, what disappoints me most is the absence of a MT.
however, with bmw and its M3, they have still maintained the look of luxury on the sheet-metal, while dropping in major performance upgrades.
i find the ls-f can look like a kit car to some (i.e. pontiac fiero -> lambo countach).
still, what disappoints me most is the absence of a MT.
#1382
Well... they botched this one. Anyone know how responsive the transmission is to gear changes and what not?
Fact of the matter is those MB transmissions can shift gears faster than you can. The days of me wanting a manual transmission are fading quickly.
Fact of the matter is those MB transmissions can shift gears faster than you can. The days of me wanting a manual transmission are fading quickly.
#1384
Originally Posted by aesir11
Fact of the matter is those MB transmissions can shift gears faster than you can. The days of me wanting a manual transmission are fading quickly.
even with quicker gear changes, i'd prefer to have a MT.