Oh and BTW, I wasn't saying anything about a gas engine either, I was responding to someone who wants one.

 

I know.

I think Honda made it pretty clear from day 1 that this will only be offered as a Hybrid.

 

I know you know. Just pointing out why I think initial sales may suffer.

My whole argument is based on the assumption that the car won't be much of a performer. If it is then I'll gladly be wrong.

Mitani also mentioned something about the CR-Z getting a new IMA system. I can only assume this will be different from the one found in the Insight.

 

 

I don't expect it to be a scorcher either. I expect it to be what they're saying it will be: a reincarnation of the CRX. Remember that the original CRX was pitched to the BOD and a fuel efficient commuter car. I interpret this to mean that it'll be fun to drive but not necessarily fast. I would be happy if it was "Miata-esqe" in it's performance envelope.

I wonder what new IMA they are working on? I think the current system is elegant, but limited in power output. Maybe a move to LiOn batteries? Does anybody know if the current system disengages the engine from the electric system to allow "electric only" operation?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0iGSfc9Erw

 

^ FYI CR-Z is second car in vid

 

Thanks for the link. The CR-Z is great looking. Sorry, Moog, I love the grille on this one. Give us a commuter variant with awesome gas mileage, and one with a hi-po engine, and Honda is pretty much done. Call them CR-Z HF and CR-Z Si or R.

Go Honda!

 

It is very nice looking. Its a great example of distinctive styling done right. And it screams Honda. The FT-86 while nice, could pretty much be from anywhere. Mazda comes to mind.

 

Considering Honda's latest grilles, this one is pretty decent.

I do like the overall design....for sure it's a CRX throwback...and that's cool.

The proposed Hybrid powerplant is what sux.

Put the RSX turbo 4 in this bad boy, and lets rock the casbah

 

RDX Turbo engine in this would be insane!! But then if they gave us what we actually wanted they wouldn't be Honda....

Btw, just noticed that front overhang....

 

That'd be nice, but it won't happen. Maybe a boosted F22C (e.g. boosted AP2 S2000 engine) would be more realistic for a hi-po variant to go alongside the hybrid commuter.

Hey, one can dream, though!

 

The power of dreams

Yea, I dunno why Honda is running from being sporty.
They have the ability, and for some reason they are pissing it away.

S2000

Where have all the cool, sporty Honda vehicles gone?
Where are the pocket rockets of yester-year?
Clearly they have left NA.

Maybe this hatch is gonna have a trick up its sleeve

 

yeah, an Fseries trick with re-enforced sleeves lol

 

+1 I like the front however, if they squished down the ass about 4-6" it might have my okay.

 

Tokyo 2009: Honda CR-Z coming to America next fall with six-speed manual!

 

Will have to see it in another color.

Too bad I'll never buy it.

 

 

Looks cool but you know they're going to neuter it with 15" wheels, old-skool halogen lights, regular rear-view mirrors and no fancy blue highlights.

 

1.5-liter FTL.

Could you imagine if Honda would have put that turbo 4cyl under the hood......

 

What's more sad is that this I4 hybrid is gonna be the sportiest car in the Honda lineup for the foreseeable future .

But it is a good looking hybrid hot-hatch nonetheless.

 

well....yeah...

 

Which basically takes away all the coolness.

And then there's the ass that looks like......ass. Why'd they go and do that?

 

Well, they tried to bring back the CRX rear...I can understand that....but it ended up looking like screwed up Prius rear end.

 

I doubt it'll be as bad as 15" What does the Insight have? I'll bet this is Plus 1". Of course it will have regular mirrors and halogens. Blue lighting on the exterior is illegal (in my state) but regardless of color, they are not a production feature.

 

Engine swap!!

 

 

I really like the looks of this thing...but I see another epic flop. I just don't see a market for a gutless 2 seater right now.

We shall see....

 

You act as if people are interested in fun to drive vehicles.

 

Wow no back seat would kill this vehicle. If this has the same electric motor as the Insight with the Fit's 1.5 liter this thing will have less horse power than the base Civic (which already gets decent mileage). The CR-Z might be a tough sell unless it gets over 50 mpg.

 

This car shouldnt be just a hybrid, they should have a hot engine option for those enthusiasts that want one.

 

Toss a K20 with a LSD in there and call it a day

 

What was I thinking. 16-25 years could care less about horsepower. How silly of me.

 

I thought they cared more about the size of the wing and how much bzzap sound the car makes...?

Where are those darned LEDs on the bottom of the car...? Green, please.

 

I like it, any ideas on pricing or MPG figures yet? Thanks for posting those pictures.

 

TOV link

Length: 4080 mm (160.6 in.)
Width: 1740 mm (68.5 in.)
Height: 1395 mm (54.9 in.)
Wheelbase: 2435 mm (95.9 in.)

Engine: 1.5L i-VTEC + IMA
Transmission: 6MT or CVT
Power (ICE): 114ps@6000RPM
Torque (ICE): 145 NM (107 lb-ft)@4800RPM
Power (IMA): 14ps@1500RPM
Torque (IMA): 78 NM (57 lb-ft)@1000RPM
0-100km/hr (0-62mph): 9.7 sec

 

0-60 in 9.7s...?


We've got a fast one.

 

Do not want.

 

I knew I'd be let down but even I wasn't expecting this.

Good luck with that Honda, you'll need it.

 

this thing slower than a 80's CRX