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Old 11-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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Rear reminds me of BMW.


Old 11-12-2012, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
meh...waiting for the interior.


The weakest part of the car...and they arent releasing that...hmmmm
Old 11-13-2012, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
but rather a judder problem.
I guess judder is a good way to describe it. Every time I'm coming to a stop or starting up again the car's feels like it going to stall. Almost feels like a stick when you you let out the clutch too early. Its unbelievably bad. Be interested to drive a 12+ Civic Hybrid just to see if its improved.

The Insight I drove awhile bad had the same problem IIRC.
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I like the changes....looks much better.
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Honda's next-generation Civic Type-R will arrive with a turbocharged 2.0L engine, not the 1.6L unit previously reported. Honda engineers decided to up the grunt of the Civic Type-R in order to ensure a new front-wheel drive lap record at the Nurburgring.

Previous reports indicated that Honda would use a turbocharged version of its 1.6L motorsports engine in the next Civic Type-R, but Yasuhisa Arai, a member of Honda's R&D team, confirmed to Auto Express that the hot hatch will arrive with a larger 2.0L motor.

Arai revealed the turbocharged 2.0L could put out as much as 300 horsepower, which would trump the Civic Type-R's intended rival, the 265 horsepower Renaultsport Megane 265.

"We have an idea of the products our rivals are developing and regardless of what anyone else produces, our car will be the fastest front-wheel-drive model around the Nurburgring when it goes on sale,” Arai said. “And we will do whatever we need to in order to make that happen."

The Civic Type-R is expected to hit the European market in 2015, but it doesn't appear as though Honda has any plans to sell the car in the United States.
Lets hope Honda doesn't forget about NA.
Old 11-13-2012, 08:59 PM
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They didn't forget about NA. NA was just never in the picture.

There's only ever been one Type-R model available in NA IIRC, and that model went out of production 12 years ago. I would be very surprised if the CTR makes its way over here.

(unless you're talking about naturally aspirated, which I doubt)
Old 11-14-2012, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Costco
They didn't forget about NA. NA was just never in the picture.
This. Us lazy, fat Americans can't handle a Type R.
Old 11-14-2012, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
They didn't forget about NA. NA was just never in the picture.

There's only ever been one Type-R model available in NA IIRC, and that model went out of production 12 years ago. I would be very surprised if the CTR makes its way over here.

(unless you're talking about naturally aspirated, which I doubt)
Well, time to change the policy. At least offer the 2.0L Turbo over here.
Old 11-14-2012, 01:49 PM
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A 300hp 2L-I4 motor for Honda and small Acura vehicles ?

This would elevate most Honda/Acura products to the top of their classes in terms of HP.
Old 11-14-2012, 01:55 PM
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well 300hp in such a small car would definitely satisfy NA people....
Old 11-14-2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Well, time to change the policy. At least offer the 2.0L Turbo over here.
Knowing Honda, they'll put it in the Crosstour.
Old 11-14-2012, 03:10 PM
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^^ Sad, but true.
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Dodge Dart SRT....class leading interior...and performance.

That all I'm sayin'
Old 11-14-2012, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Dodge Dart SRT....class leading interior...and performance.

That all I'm sayin'
It looks like a really good car. Havent seen one in person yet though.
Old 11-14-2012, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
It looks like a really good car. Havent seen one in person yet though.
Ive only seen one on the road passing in traffic. I think its a great car compared to the others right now.

Granted I havent driven one yet, I think it blows the doors off the corolla and civic in terms of looks in and out.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Ive only seen one on the road passing in traffic. I think its a great car compared to the others right now.

Granted I havent driven one yet, I think it blows the doors off the corolla and civic in terms of looks in and out.
i am sure it would but people who are in that market have difference preferences.

As you can tell from sales #, regardless how ugly Corolla and Civics are, they are still selling.

If You can call Aztek a Civic, it will sell.
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Yeah...Thats why I was stating my opinion...
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
It looks like a really good car. Havent seen one in person yet though.
Is the Dart SRT already out???
Old 11-15-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Is the Dart SRT already out???
SRT, no, but it IS happening.
Old 11-15-2012, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I like the changes....looks much better.

+1, I like all the exterior changes.
Curious what the interior changes are?
Old 11-15-2012, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
SRT, no, but it IS happening.
ohh..no wonder civicdrivr hasn't seen one in person yet...lol...

Originally Posted by Legend2TL
+1, I like all the exterior changes.
Curious what the interior changes are?
IMO the interior seems to be a bigger issue with the 2012 Civic for most people than the exterior.....and so judging from the exterior changes we have seen, I'd imagine the interior to be much improved as well...along with more features?
Old 11-27-2012, 10:55 AM
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More photos....






Not outstanding but at least it's a noticeable improvement IMO.

Can't really tell if the material quality has improved until having the chance to sit in one...at least it doesn't look cheap anymore.
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Well the interior design hasn't changed much, but that was never a legitimate compliant from anyone. Looking at the details though, it's obvious that it's a brand-new dash board; so likely better materials. Now it's just a matter of improving the suspension, which we will find out soon.
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The stitched dash looks much better than before...
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:07 PM
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Stitched dash AND door panels.... WOW!!!!

This IS an Acura!!!! lol









Sorry ILX, but the Civic EX-L is GORGEOUS
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^ the stitched dash is a nice touch, but the ILX still looks better than the Civic inside and out.
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^ the stitched dash is a nice touch, but the ILX still looks better than the Civic inside and out.
I agree. But then there's the price difference. The Civic EX-L is a good car for the price. I'd look at the ILX with the 2.4 6 spd.... but anyways, I'm going off topic. Bottom line, this is a better civic. I personally like it better than the 8th gen (miss the K20 from the 8th gen though)
Old 11-27-2012, 11:35 PM
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^ the stitched dash is a nice touch, but the ILX still looks better than the Civic inside and out.
I think that was done on purpose. With that being said, the improvements to the Civic are pretty good considering what they had to work with.
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dat wheel gap
Old 11-28-2012, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
^ the stitched dash is a nice touch, but the ILX still looks better than the Civic inside and out.
But at the end of the day the magic question will be - Will this draw potential ILX buyers down market toward the Civic? All the while undercutting sales from the ILX brethren?
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But at the end of the day the magic question will be - Will this draw potential ILX buyers down market toward the Civic? All the while undercutting sales from the ILX brethren?
If Honda/Acura is serious about the ILX, then they better up the power and feature content of the ILX without charging extra....sure the ILX doesn't have to be the best in terms of bang for the buck, but it should be more distinctive to separate itself from the Civic touring....
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I really like it!
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http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/11...vic-sedan.html



looks nice!
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Below is the offical press realease


Restyled 2013 Honda Civic Arrives at U.S. Dealerships with Premium Style, Host of Popular Standard Features

Extensive design changes, content upgrades and advanced new available safety technologies make Civic the benchmark in the compact class

TORRANCE, Calif., Nov. 29, 2012 – The top-selling and award-winning Honda Civic returns for 2013, with a host of design upgrades and a bevy of new standard features, while still maintaining the efficiency and value that has made the Civic an automotive icon for the past 40 years. The 2013 Honda Civic Sedan receives all-new front and rear exterior styling, along with extensive interior styling upgrades on all models. Retuned steering and suspension sharpen the Civic's handling, while extensive body and chassis upgrades improve the ride comfort and interior quietness.

Across the board, every 2013 Civic model is equipped with a suite of class-leading standard features. Standard equipment on every Honda Civic includes Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink®, Bluetooth® Audio, rearview camera, color i-MID display, USB/iPod® connection, Pandora® Interface, an SMS text feature, steering wheel audio controls, exterior temperature gauge and sliding center-console armrest. Even with hundreds of dollars of standard features added, the 2013 Civic arrives with only a modest $160 increase in MSRP across the lineup, with pricing for the exceptionally well-equipped 2013 Civic LX Sedan beginning at $18,1651.

New safety technologies built into the 2013 Civic include the application of the next-gen Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ II (ACE™ II) body structure, which includes additional front end structures designed to help increase occupant protection by dispersing crash energy in narrow overlap frontal crashes, and should help the Civic obtain a top rating in the new small-offset crash test conducted by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). Also new are SmartVent™ side airbags, side curtain airbags with a rollover sensor and the availability of Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW) systems, which make their compact-class debut in the 2013 Honda Civic Hybrid.

Featuring the widest array of powertrain choices available in the segment, the Civic lineup is designed to meet the diverse needs of today's compact-vehicle buyer. The 2013 Honda Civic Sedan and Coupe will be available in LX, EX, EX-L and Si models, with the Civic Hybrid, Civic Natural Gas and Civic HF also available in sedan form. The entry model Civic DX has been discontinued for 2013.

Summary of Changes for 2013

• Completely revised front and rear exterior styling (Sedan)
• Enhanced standard feature content on all model grades
• Recalibrated suspension and steering
• Extensive new NVH reduction features
• Revised interior styling including soft-touch materials
• Next-gen Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ II (ACE™ II) body structure
• Standard rearview camera
• Standard Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink®
• Standard Bluetooth® Audio
• Standard Pandora® Interface
• Standard USB/iPod® interface
• Standard SMS text message functionality
• Available Forward Collision Warning (FCW), Lane Departure Warning (LDW) systems
• Two new exterior colors: White Orchid Pearl and Kona Coffee Metallic
• New interior color: Black

Powertrains

The 2013 Civic lineup includes sedan and coupe models with a conventional gasoline engine and "Si" performance models. Civic also offers a high fuel efficiency "HF," hybrid and exclusive natural gas alternative-fuel sedans.

Heavily revised for the ninth-gen Civic introduction for model year 2012, the Civic's all-aluminum, 140-horsepower, i-VTEC® 1.8-liter 16-valve four-cylinder engine is unchanged for 2013, continuing to provide exceptional responsiveness, refinement, and fuel efficiency. Providing 128 lb-ft of torque at 4300 rpm, the Honda mill is paired with either a 5-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission. In the Civic Sedan and Coupe, this powertrain has earned an EPA fuel-economy rating of 28/39/32 mpg2 city/hwy/combined when equipped with the automatic transmission. In the Civic HF Sedan, those figures climb to 29/41/33 mpg2.

Now available in 37 states, the 2013 Honda Civic Natural Gas continues as the only mass produced natural gas sedan available in the U.S. In the Civic Natural Gas, the 1.8-liter engine produces 110 horsepower, and earns an EPA fuel economy rating of 27/38/31 mpg2 (city/hwy/combined). The 2013 Civic Hybrid features a 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine equipped with Honda's Integrated Motor Assist (IMA®) system, which when coupled with its Lithium-Ion battery pack, produces 110 horsepower and 127 lb-ft of torque. Paired to a Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT), the Civic Hybrid earns a city/hwy/combined EPA rating of 44/44/44 mpg2. The Civic Sedan and Coupe, Civic Natural Gas and Civic Hybrid models all feature Honda's ECO Assist™ technology, which with the push of the green, dash-mounted "ECON" button, can help drivers operate the vehicle more efficiently.

Along with strong fuel efficiency, the Civic lineup also offers strong performance. The 2013 Civic Si Sedan and Si Coupe models are equipped with an all-aluminum, 201-horsepower, i-VTEC® 2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve engine paired to a 6-speed manual transmission. Even though it provides 170 lb-ft of torque and offers exhilarating performance, the Civic Si has a remarkable 31 mpg2 EPA highway fuel economy rating.

Body

For 2013, the Honda Civic has received a host of changes that far exceed the typical mid-model refresh. The front and rear styling of the 2013 Honda Civic Sedan has been completely altered for a more youthful and premium feel, including sheet metal changes that include an all-new hood and trunk lid. Up front, a new open-mouth lower bumper with a horizontal chrome accent and a sportier, black honeycomb mesh grille is anchored by new integrated fog lights on EX-L and above trims. The grille is flanked by new clear-lens corner lights to provide a more premium look. The 2013 Civic's more sculpted front end flows into a new taller, more deeply faceted hood.

In back, a new rear bumper design and new rear trunk lid are capped by a clean, horizontal chrome trim piece. The all-new design of the jewel-like taillights now carries into the trunk face, providing a more finished and upscale look. The rear bumper features integrated reflector treatments and a new lower diffuser panel finished with a honeycomb mesh vent. While the expressive exterior styling of the 2013 Honda Civic Coupe remains unchanged, restyled wheels on all models help sharpen the look of the 2013 Civic.

Constructed of 55-pecent high-strength steel, the 2013 Civic's body minimizes weight and maximizes strength for greater rigidity. The 2013 Civic's body has seen a host of changes to the front floor, side sill, A-pillar, upper wheel housing and front bumper extension. This addition of high-strength steel is expected to pay refinement dividends and provide a stiffer structure for the numerous chassis updates for the 2013 Civic. In addition, the Civic's new structure is designed to help it excel in the new Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) small overlap crash test.

Chassis

Under the skin, the 2013 Civic has had significant alterations aimed at enhancing handling refinement and noise isolation. A reworked Electronic Power Steering (EPS) setup reduces friction and provides a quicker ratio, while stiffer wheels, stiffer front springs and a thicker front stabilizer bar with new Teflon-lined mounting bushings are designed for more fluid suspension action and a flatter, more responsive cornering attitude.

The rear suspension also receives a thicker stabilizer bar, increased spring rate, new Teflon-lined stabilizer-bar bushings, and reworked suspension bushings to increase both bump- and roll-motion stiffness. With its retuned MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension, handling linearity, responsiveness and overall vehicle composure have been increased, while at the same time improving ride quality and the characteristic Honda fun-to-drive feel. For 2013, front brake-rotor diameter on automatic-equipped Civic LX, EX and EX-L Sedans and Coupes jumps 20 mm from 262 to 282 mm for improved stopping performance.

A large range of new noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) countermeasures work together to reduce road, engine and wind noise in the 2013 Civic's interior. This includes a stiffer front subframe, new thicker windshield and front door glass, and additional soundproofing material in the dash, floor, doors, and rear tray to help reduce unwanted road noise, and provide a more serene ride and quieter cabin.

Interior

Inside, extensive refinements in design and construction gives the entire 2013 Honda Civic lineup a more premium feel, with an all-new tricot headliner, new soft-touch materials on the instrument panel and upper door treatment, and revised textures and panel junctions throughout the instrument panel and center console. Subtle silver accents in the interior lend a higher-quality look, along with door panel and seat fabric upgrades. Providing a more upscale environment, black carpeting and a trunk lid finisher are now standard on all Civic models. For the first time, Civic is available in both cloth and leather with an all-black interior.

The 2013 Honda Civic provides a host of new class-leading standard features, including Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink®, Bluetooth® Audio, rearview camera, color i-MID display, Pandora® Interface, USB/iPod® interface, SMS text message function, steering wheel audio controls, exterior temperature gauge and a sliding finished center armrest. Available on Civic EX, EX-L, Hybrid and Natural Gas models, the Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ with voice recognition3 now includes a multi-view rearview camera and provides routing and guidance to individual addresses and more than 7-million points of interest within the continental United States. With its 16-GB flash memory system, it offers fast route calculation and includes FM traffic, a subscription-free service that alerts drivers to traffic conditions.

Safety

Named a "2012 Top Safety Pick" by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), the Civic returns for 2013 with a re-engineered Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ II (ACE™ II) body structure. The changes that went into the ACE II body structure were designed to help increase the protection provided to vehicle occupants in a frontal collision, including the addition of front end structures to help disperse crash energy in narrow overlap frontal crashes. These changes should also help the Civic obtain top marks in the new Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) small overlap frontal crash test.

Also new for 2013, the Civic features Honda's new SmartVent™ front seat side airbag construction that recently debuted in the 2013 Honda Accord. The new SmartVent™ airbag design helps mitigate the risk of excessive side airbag deployment force, while eliminating the need for the prior Civic's Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS). The elimination of OPDS allows improved heating of the seatback on Civic EX-L models. Additionally, the 2013 Civic is equipped with a side curtain airbag with rollover sensors, nearly two years ahead of regulatory requirements.

A first in the compact segment, the 2013 Honda Civic Hybrid will provide standard Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW) systems. FCW is designed to detect a possible collision with another vehicle or object ahead and provide visible and audible alerts to the driver. LDW provides visible and audible alerts if the driver begins to drift out of a detected lane without using the turn indicator.

The 2013 Civic's additional safety technologies include standard dual-stage, multiple-threshold front airbags, an anti-lock braking system (ABS), Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)4 with traction control, a tire pressure monitoring system, and a pedestrian injury mitigation design in the front of the vehicle.

Warranty and Awards

The 2013 Honda Civic is covered by a 3-year/36,000-mile new-car limited warranty, a 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain limited warranty, a 5-year/unlimited-mile corrosion limited warranty and on hybrid models a 15-year/150,000-mile emissions warranty when the vehicle is registered and normally operated in California and certain states that have adopted California Zero-Emission Vehicle regulations.

Since its complete redesign as a 2012 model, the Honda Civic has received host of awards and recognition. It was named one of About.com's Best New Cars of 2012. Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com named the 2012 Civic one of the "10 Best Green Cars of 2012" and one of the "Best Family Cars of 2012." In addition, KBB named the Civic Natural Gas a "2012 Best Redesigned Vehicle." The Civic Natural Gas was also named "2012 Green Car of the Year®" by Green Car Journal. Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com has already awarded the 2013 Civic with a Best Resale Value award in its segment.
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Thats a bit disappointing that we didnt see even a slight bump in power in the Si.
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^^ but they added more wheel gap

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Autoblog now has a full gallery up of press photos as well as in person photos. (Sedan / Si / Hybrid)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/29/2...civic-la-2012/
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That's a pretty extensive list of upgrades. Good to see Honda is listening and actually doing something about the Civic. I quite like the exterior of the Civic Si. I wonder if there's a market for a AT Si.

One question I have is, did Honda just push for an earlier MMC, meaning there won't be another MMC for the 9g? Or will there still be one?
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Well the interior design hasn't changed much, but that was never a legitimate compliant from anyone.
I know you're mr honda fanboy blinded by the light.

But the interior was THE LARGEST COMPLAINT of the car. FROM EVERYONE.


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